I feel as though I should start off with some stats.
I am 5’5"
I weigh 167 lbs as of this morning
I do not do single maxes so I will just put up my rep maxes.
Bench: 275x6
Squat: 315x10
Dead lift: 475x5
I don’t bounce the bar off my chest, half squat, or bounce my dead lifts either. All of these have a controlled negative, controlled positive, and a squeeze throughout the whole motion.
I am also 19.
I understand that I am fairly young, but I have no interest in steroids as of now and progress has almost stopped entirely.
I am going to do this no matter how many people say that I shouldn’t, so I would appreciate advice as to what I should use, how much of it, how long to cycle it, and what to use PC. I tried checking on many online sources, but all of them were very vague to me. I will appreciate any help I can get, but I would appreciate it if negativity could not be on this thread as it will not change my mind. Thank you.
Its relevant because you are 19, so there is no way you should not be progressing in some way unless your programming or diet is wrong. Dial those in first before you resort to drugs. Also, all of these “cookie cutter” programs have given people tremendous results, give one a shot cause clearly your own programming isnt working.
I have been training since I was 12. Considering that, my weight, and the amount of strength that I have I severely doubt it is an issue with programming or diet.
Thank you for your opinion, but I will not use it as I see it as invalid.
I’m just not going to respond to you any more. You clearly lack the knowledge that I am seeking.
You have shown yourself to be ignorant here, telling somebody that deadlifts 475x5 at 167 that a cookie cutter will stop a plateu. Get outta here.
“Hi, I’m the same type of teenager that shows up in this subforum 3x a month! I want your help as long as it doesn’t involve me hearing anything I don’t want to.”
Also:
You honestly believe that a SARM is the only way to up your lifts at 19. You’re definitely the ignorant one. You’re also a child, and not because of your age, because of your attitude. Just go to another forum, you won’t get pampered here.
My man, You arent that strong, get over yourself. I have a friend who competes at 150lbs who had a 410lb bench, 602lb deadlift, and 500lb squat at 21 y.o.
Edit: Just to clarify, he was natural no sarms/peds
SARMs are similar enough to steroids though. This isn’t a question of natty vs not natty. You’re seeking advice regarding something that is one notch below the older, more established steroids, so I’m having a hard time understanding your perspective.
That being said, here’s what you need to know:
-SARMs are suppressive, so pct should be similar to that of an ordinary cycle
-grey market products are notoriously mislabeled/underdosed/misdosed
-raw powder is a better bet than a pre-capped pill or liquid
-while not hepatotoxic some SARMs will still carry a few side effects that need to be mitigated during cycle
-for strength it would seem—based on anecdotal information available—that LGD is your best choice
-you cannot skip blood work, both pre and post cycle; you need those data points in order to monitor your health responsibly
-if you’re going to take a SARM please do not trust any information that comes from people on forums that are sponsored by SARM sellers
What were you thinking in terms of which SARM, dose, and duration?
I really appreciate your reply. Let me start off by saying that I chose SARMS because while they are suppressive, I have at least learned that they are not nearly as bad as majority of steroids and lack majority of side effects with some compounds. That was my perspective on this. I realize that I will likely use steroids at some point in my life, but I would like to save that for later in place of something that is at least not as harmful.
Now from point to point.
-I realize that they are suppressive, but it is the matter of what to use PC, how much of it, how to use it, when to use it, and anything that I am not thinking of.
-There is actually a plug in my town that sells to many others here, so I know what I am getying is 100% real.
-That I did not realize. Thank you. I will look at powders.
-That I realize and expected. From what I have learned, what I would like to use doesn’t really have notable side effects aside from suppression. I have heard about AIs though. I already decided to have some Arimadex and have a cap every day in case of symptoms like gyno.
-I’m not really aiming for strength tbh. We all know that while strength≠size that it at least correlates to it. I didn’t want to take a picture of my half naked body for the internet, so I posted my lifts instead. I was thinking LDG 4033 myself though.
-I already get regular blood tests as is, so no problem there.
-Trust me when I say I will remain skeptical of anything I read on here, including what comes from you.
I was thinking of using a single SARM. I have read that pretty much every recommendation is a stack, but I would rather use one and see how my body handles it.
I was thinking about LDG 4033 for 8 weeks since that seems to be a common trend, but idk for sure. I found mixed responses for doses and everything related.
You do not need that much arimidex when taking LGD, most dont need it at all accept for in rare cases. As for pct, like the other poster mentioned, you will need to run a simillar protocol to a standard steroid cycle. If you dont know what to take for a basic pct, you need to do more research before taking drugs. Everyone here who replies is trying to help you, not throw shade at you. No need to act like a bratty kid, have respect as most of the people on here have been doing this for far longer than you. For many of us, coaching people on what to take and what not to take is our career and how we make a living, so please do take the advice that is given. We are here to HELP you man. All that said, LGD 10 mg ed, for 8 weeks is what I’d recommend. Nolva and clomid for pct although many just use one or the other.
I second the notion of skipping an AI. You won’t need it if what you’re getting is genuinely LGD. It’s smart to have it on hand, but don’t take it as a prophylactic.
As far as stacking is concerned, I think your instinct of one-at-a-time is correct. No need to add more variables.