Strictly a political move to gain support for his weak campaign. He will push for the bailout, which personally is bullshit in my opinion. He will then twist this into his claim that he is doing his best for the American people, blah, blah, blah.
All things move towards equilibrium, just let it happen. And next time, do the math yourself. When someone tells you you can have the house of your dream for only $700 a month, call bullshit and make the liar do the math in front of you.
[quote]jawara wrote:
hedo wrote:
Iron Dwarf wrote:
My ass.
He’s not ready to debate because he’s got NOTHING.
Nice try, though.
More then a try. He has thrown Obama off his game again.
If Obama insists on the debate it proves he will put politics above everything else that is important…like the economy.
As to “having nothing” Obama hardly came off well the last time they met. This move will rattle him even further.
I’m not so sure about Mccain but Obama was #3 on the list of people that got money from Fannie Mae/Freddy Mac.[/quote]
I think he was actuallly #2, right behind Senator Chris Dodd. But Dodd was there for nine years while Obama was only there 3. 3 years and number#2 in Fannie Mae money, hummmm…
[quote]tom63 wrote:
jawara wrote:
hedo wrote:
Iron Dwarf wrote:
My ass.
He’s not ready to debate because he’s got NOTHING.
Nice try, though.
More then a try. He has thrown Obama off his game again.
If Obama insists on the debate it proves he will put politics above everything else that is important…like the economy.
As to “having nothing” Obama hardly came off well the last time they met. This move will rattle him even further.
I’m not so sure about Mccain but Obama was #3 on the list of people that got money from Fannie Mae/Freddy Mac.
I think he was actuallly #2, right behind Senator Chris Dodd. But Dodd was there for nine years while Obama was only there 3. 3 years and number#2 in Fannie Mae money, hummmm…
Could be an interesting move - McCain gets to get essentially free press on discussing economic issues (which he needs) and gets to demonstrate his roll-up-the-sleeves, get-down-to-business with the other side of the aisle on Big Problems.
And while Obama may try and suggest McCain is wimping out, that dog won’t hunt - after all, McCain wanted many Lincoln-Douglas town-hall debates with the “Lincolnesque!!!” Obama, and Obama declined the idea outright.
Even if the debates proceed as planned, McCain will get his chance to get into the mud in DC, and then show up at Ole Miss - and that is a fine scenario: it sends a message that public service is more than just a never-ending campaign.
[quote]Mick28 wrote:
FightinIrish26 wrote:
I think that McCain is full of shit.
He’s smart enough to know that his being there won’t do anything one way or the other. He’s not the majority whip.
It was symbolic, and it sure as hell doesn’t mean anything. A gracious gesture but not important.
The debates are far more important than them being back in Washington.
But…what has it done to the campaign? THAT is the question that a smart guy like you should be asking himself.[/quote]
I just think that it’s not really important. Politicians probably do one bullshit “symbolic” thing a day that they’ll never come through on… so what’s the difference…
Harry Reid suddenly doesn’t want McCain to come back to DC, so clearly McCain must be doing something right. This, of course, is the day after Reid demanded that the White House have McCain’s backing on the bailout.
So, Reid demands that McCain be a part of the bailout plan, only then to inform McCain to stay away on the basis that the Senate doesn’t need him.
My gut is that Reid fears that McCain shows up and quarterbacks a decent compromise, earning him praise as a bipartisan, problem-solving “doer” - while Obama stays out on the trail talking about healing the world’s soul, but doing nothing to lead on perhaps the most important economic policy work done since the New Deal.
[quote]thunderbolt23 wrote:
Oh, and a couple of notes:
Harry Reid suddenly doesn’t want McCain to come back to DC, so clearly McCain must be doing something right. This, of course, is the day after Reid demanded that the White House have McCain’s backing on the bailout.
So, Reid demands that McCain be a part of the bailout plan, only then to inform McCain to stay away on the basis that the Senate doesn’t need him.
My gut is that Reid fears that McCain shows up and quarterbacks a decent compromise, earning him praise as a bipartisan, problem-solving “doer” - while Obama stays out on the trail talking about healing the world’s soul, but doing nothing to lead on perhaps the most important economic policy work done since the New Deal.[/quote]
Libs are always afraid of conservatives like Palin and (mildly) McCain. Libs have the tired old morality that created the Soviet Union and Nazi Germany, which can’t stand up against conservatism.
You have to be VERY careful when you listen to these talking heads and look at these Polls they are citing.
I noticed one today. The Poll showed Obama ahead of McCain when it came to the economy. (They often ask people questions on specific topics).
If one looks at overall Polls that guage who will win the election in a little more than a month, McCain/Palin is still ahead.
There has been a positive for Obama in all this; the news has been taken off “Killer Joe” who seemed like he was working more and more for the McCain campaign with each day they let him loose!
I think that what McCain has shown over the last few weeks is an uncanny ability to out-flank just about everybody.
Reid essentially was “calling McCain out” by trying to link him to Bush and a bailout that is very unpopular with many Americans… and McCain went and Tailhooked his ass.
I think that what McCain has shown over the last few weeks is an uncanny ability to out-flank just about everybody.
Reid essentially was “calling McCain out” by trying to link him to Bush and a bailout that is very unpopular with many Americans… and McCain went and Tailhooked his ass.
McCain=1 Reid=0[/quote]
I agree, Mufasa - and I have to admit, I have been very impressed with it. McCain has had (and will have) missteps, but that is true of every candidate - and McCain is proving to be very cagey with his campaign.
Savvy is a good thing to be when you are president, regardless of your political affiliation.
If McCain can negotiate and string together the GOP votes to put the bailout together, coupled with some “red meat” concessions from the White House (like some kind of fist-to-nose on executives enjoying “golden parachutes”, etc.), he gets to be - as one commentator put it - “the man who saved the economy”.
It’s a risk, but it is gutsy and smart - and, once again, makes everyone focus on McCain and the bailout drama and puts Obama on his heels as a reactor, rather than a pro-actor, regardless of whether the debates are postponed or not.
I think that what McCain has shown over the last few weeks is an uncanny ability to out-flank just about everybody.
Reid essentially was “calling McCain out” by trying to link him to Bush and a bailout that is very unpopular with many Americans… and McCain went and Tailhooked his ass.
McCain=1 Reid=0
I agree, Mufasa - and I have to admit, I have been very impressed with it. McCain has had (and will have) missteps, but that is true of every candidate - and McCain is proving to be very cagey with his campaign.
Savvy is a good thing to be when you are president, regardless of your political affiliation.
If McCain can negotiate and string together the GOP votes to put the bailout together, coupled with some “red meat” concessions from the White House (like some kind of fist-to-nose on executives enjoying “golden parachutes”, etc.), he gets to be - as one commentator put it - “the man who saved the economy”.
It’s a risk, but it is gutsy and smart - and, once again, makes everyone focus on McCain and the bailout drama and puts Obama on his heels as a reactor, rather than a pro-actor, regardless of whether the debates are postponed or not.[/quote]