First Ever Cycle - Dbol 40-50mg

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[quote]darylmcd11 wrote:
Hey guys newbie to the whole aas cycles. researched for weeks on end before finally deciding to go for Dbol 6 week Cycle with nova as pct

I Am not new to the whole working out scene been on and off for over 2 years, off only due to injury.

My stats are :-
Age 19
Height 5,10
Weight 170lbs
bf % 12.5-13%

I also am running creatine daily and I do take pre workout sups usually jack micro or nano vapor.

My cycle will be
week 1 - 40 MG
Week 2 - 50 mg
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Week 6 - 40 Mg

Im well aware that after this cycle i will loose a lot of these gains but as many other men out there I am needle phobic. Its something that cant be helped I think. So basically im just wanting to know if this cycle sounds okay and if there is any other methods than injecting test to keeping some gains.

Thanks

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I’m a new AAS user and i’ll be the first to tell you pinning is easy as hell, As long as you use a 22-25 ga needle and don’t hit any nerves! I’ve done a lot of research on AAS before I planned out a cycle for myself and doing orals only is highly frowned upon, Using Dianabol to jump start your test cycle would work great but using it alone is a big mistake I think!

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Mr. Walkway,

you do all those aas pins sub q or a mix of IM and sub q?

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[quote]Irish Pride wrote:
Mr. Walkway,

you do all those aas pins sub q or a mix of IM and sub q?[/quote]

all aas is IM

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[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:

[quote]Irish Pride wrote:
Mr. Walkway,

you do all those aas pins sub q or a mix of IM and sub q?[/quote]

all aas is IM[/quote]

Explain please. Does not compute compared to prior posts.

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[quote]conservativedog wrote:

[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:

[quote]Irish Pride wrote:
Mr. Walkway,

you do all those aas pins sub q or a mix of IM and sub q?[/quote]

all aas is IM[/quote]

Explain please. Does not compute compared to prior posts.
[/quote]

I pin all my aas IM currently

insulin and melanotan are subq tho I have done insulin IM as well

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[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:
I pinned myself 18 times yesterday…

you are not needle-phobic…

you are a FUCKING.PUSSY.[/quote]

If the AAS dont work out you can always try out professional darts! I think you are ready.

I am curious, do you use fresh pins for every injection as that is a lot of pins per week? I get your logic on small injections and slin pins but seems like a lot of effort could be saved by just going from .5ml to 1ml per injection.

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[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:

[quote]conservativedog wrote:

[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:

[quote]Irish Pride wrote:
Mr. Walkway,

you do all those aas pins sub q or a mix of IM and sub q?[/quote]

all aas is IM[/quote]

Explain please. Does not compute compared to prior posts.
[/quote]

I pin all my aas IM currently

insulin and melanotan are subq tho I have done insulin IM as well[/quote]

That’s what I figured. Definitely going to start back loading slin pins next cycle

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[quote] Mr.Walkaway wrote: I pin all my aas IM currently

insulin and melanotan are subq tho I have done insulin IM as well[/quote]

Currently as in this week? I thought you had bumped it all over to sub q as in posts in last month. I honestly should be dead lifting instead of reading all this, but you’ve got me hooked.

Another point. I found humalin R (for $24) over the counter as you stated (had no idea thought you had to have dr. prescribe.) In a past thread you told someone they were going to get fat (fat as fuck) the way the were setting up diet w/insulin. Can you please expound on that?

You gave us a couple of sentences where you mentioned sipping shake containing 80g of carbs from a carb powder (NOT DEXTROSE) along w/40g whey hydrolysate +5g leucine. You pin insulin in morn before breakfast and before workout. Other meals as well?

Do you use the peptide ipamorelin to cause hgh to be secreted or do you pin synthetic hgh? I know where to find ipamorelin but have no idea on the other.

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[quote]GoCal wrote:

[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:
I pinned myself 18 times yesterday…

you are not needle-phobic…

you are a FUCKING.PUSSY.[/quote]

If the AAS dont work out you can always try out professional darts! I think you are ready.

I am curious, do you use fresh pins for every injection as that is a lot of pins per week? I get your logic on small injections and slin pins but seems like a lot of effort could be saved by just going from .5ml to 1ml per injection.[/quote]

I use the same slin pin 3-4 times, since it is used in rapid succession and the amounts being pinned are so small and relatively shallow, infection really isn’t a concern…

and you would think that pinning 1ml would be faster, but 1ml slin pins take a lot more effort to use… it’s just the physics and the dimensions of the syringes

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[quote]conservativedog wrote:

Currently as in this week? I thought you had bumped it all over to sub q as in posts in last month. I honestly should be dead lifting instead of reading all this, but you’ve got me hooked.

Another point. I found humalin R (for $24) over the counter as you stated (had no idea thought you had to have dr. prescribe.) In a past thread you told someone they were going to get fat (fat as fuck) the way the were setting up diet w/insulin. Can you please expound on that?

You gave us a couple of sentences where you mentioned sipping shake containing 80g of carbs from a carb powder (NOT DEXTROSE) along w/40g whey hydrolysate +5g leucine. You pin insulin in morn before breakfast and before workout. Other meals as well?

Do you use the peptide ipamorelin to cause hgh to be secreted or do you pin synthetic hgh? I know where to find ipamorelin but have no idea on the other.
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I have not switched over to subq yet for aas, but I will once I begin trt.

the danger with insulin for bodybuilding purposes is not dying, it’s getting fat (also becoming diabetic, but you would need to be using it for a very long time, HGH does the same thing). That guy structured his diet in such a way that he would consume the bulk of his calories for the day while insulin was active in his system…not a great idea

a lot of guys use insulin to cover their meals, I don’t however. Some guys use humlin R 3x a day for 3 days out of the week, I believe George Farrah came up with that method.

you have to remember to adjust your insulin according to your diet, not your diet according to your insulin…

basically:

“im going to eat 40 grams of carbs and 40 grams of protein for this meal, so I will need about 5-6 IU depending on my sensitivity (though 40g of carbs and protein should be more than enough to cover that amount no matter how sensitive you are)”

NOT

“im going to inject 15 iu of insulin so I should eat 100 or so grams of carbs and however much protein” - this is a recipe for massive fat gain.

I use synthetic hgh, it is difficult to find a legitimate supplier but if you look around for long enough you will find one

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Instead would the peptides GHRP-2 and ipamorelin work similarly to the synthetic hgh or is that going down a dead end street?

Thanks. I’m gonna have to buy you this set of weights I saw in the paper.

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[quote]conservativedog wrote:
Instead would the peptides GHRP-2 and ipamorelin work similarly to the synthetic hgh or is that going down a dead end street?

Thanks. I’m gonna have to buy you this set of weights I saw in the paper. [/quote]

I would consider it a dead-end street yes

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MR. Walkway you studied accounting in college correct? I am thoroughly impressed with your knowledge on AAS. Is this all knowledge gathered from your own personal research?

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Dbol by it self sucks. You have good gains if you run it for 10 weeks but like you said you loose all of that when you come off. Your scared of pinn. Wait until you start pissing out blood becuase your liver is damaged. If your luck it will happen when you can still do something about it. Orals as made so that they can pass though your liver with out breaking down. Other wise they would be useless. The acid would destroy them. So instead they make them to pass and the liver tries extra hard to break them down by producing more acid and damaging it self a little each time. I use to do orals and PH before I found a place to order from. Don’t ask… You are only 19 and two young. If you were 25-30 with a few years under you belt. maybe.

I know you want it now but at your age it’s credit. Enjoy it now pay later. Just work on your diet and training. If your getting back into it and just want to get right back to where you were don’t worrie. Muscle has what’s called memory and it will get back what it once had faster then it did.

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[quote]A-rod wrote:
MR. Walkway you studied accounting in college correct? I am thoroughly impressed with your knowledge on AAS. Is this all knowledge gathered from your own personal research? [/quote]

yes

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[quote]conservativedog wrote:
Instead would the peptides GHRP-2 and ipamorelin work similarly to the synthetic hgh or is that going down a dead end street?

Thanks. I’m gonna have to buy you this set of weights I saw in the paper. [/quote]

conservativedog … you are referencing my post. Altho I don’t do ghrp-2. I take ipamorelin and mod grf (along with hgh and slin) … the peptides aren’t there to take the place of the hgh but rather “improve” it. the mod grf makes the hgh release alot stronger when coupled with ipamorelin). This causes the pituitary gland to create a natural hgh pulse. after taking the peps,wait about 10min and then take your synthetic hgh. The synthetic hgh will ride the natural pulse making it alot more effective. about 20min after that is when I take the slin after the hgh clears. I like this set up. some simply like to take gh and slin. differnt strokes for different folks. take it for what it is worth.

And to walkway … damn … i thought I pinned alot. lol

GG

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[quote]barfly320 wrote:
Dbol by it self sucks. You have good gains if you run it for 10 weeks but like you said you loose all of that when you come off. Your scared of pinn. Wait until you start pissing out blood becuase your liver is damaged. If your luck it will happen when you can still do something about it. Orals as made so that they can pass though your liver with out breaking down. Other wise they would be useless. The acid would destroy them. So instead they make them to pass and the liver tries extra hard to break them down by producing more acid and damaging it self a little each time. I use to do orals and PH before I found a place to order from. Don’t ask… You are only 19 and two young. If you were 25-30 with a few years under you belt. maybe.

I know you want it now but at your age it’s credit. Enjoy it now pay later. Just work on your diet and training. If your getting back into it and just want to get right back to where you were don’t worrie. Muscle has what’s called memory and it will get back what it once had faster then it did.[/quote]

Thanks man you’r post is much appreciated. Yeah all you guys are 100% right. Just watched all my pals take gear even from 18 and even now 2 years on they are still huuuuuge from them because they got motivation because the size they became tbh money isn’t really an issue I think taking gear at a young age is about the experience. People can tell you this and tell you that but everyone’s different so I think you really have to do it yourself to understand. I have 2 weeks left of my cycle. Gains have been unreal ! But in a way I feel I’ve cheated, so think diet and some good beast modes it is for me for the next few years anyways. But thanks for the replys guys !

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[quote]GreenGoblin wrote:

[quote]conservativedog wrote:
Instead would the peptides GHRP-2 and ipamorelin work similarly to the synthetic hgh or is that going down a dead end street?

Thanks. I’m gonna have to buy you this set of weights I saw in the paper. [/quote]

conservativedog … you are referencing my post. Altho I don’t do ghrp-2. I take ipamorelin and mod grf (along with hgh and slin) … the peptides aren’t there to take the place of the hgh but rather “improve” it. the mod grf makes the hgh release alot stronger when coupled with ipamorelin). This causes the pituitary gland to create a natural hgh pulse. after taking the peps,wait about 10min and then take your synthetic hgh. The synthetic hgh will ride the natural pulse making it alot more effective. about 20min after that is when I take the slin after the hgh clears. I like this set up. some simply like to take gh and slin. differnt strokes for different folks. take it for what it is worth.

GG[/quote]

Thanks, I understood your explanation but asked the question because I’m one of the dumb dumbs on forum that hasn’t found synthetic hgh online yet. Your initial post was well written.

It took me long enough to find RC, hcg and learned recently insulin can be purchased over the counter. School of hard knocks.

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Understood.

peps are nice but I wouldn’t do them solo. I just don’t think they do enough by themselves. they compliment gh and slin nicely though. And they are so cheap … why not.

good luck with your search. there was a time when I knew almost everyone here and I would throw you a name/email but I don’t know a single person around here anymore sooooo …

GG