CountingBeans – This is the guitar you’re looking for:
[quote]SteelyD wrote:
CountingBeans – This is the guitar you’re looking for:
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I’ve chubby…
I’m sure that model is super expensive though. Man those sound great.
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]treco wrote:
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
I don’t care about binding at all, lol. [/quote]
Read this as ‘bending’ at first
Started crying and shaking,[/quote]
Not a big Jazz fan I take it?[/quote]
I want to be clear with this… I’m not attacking you treco in any way, and dont’ want that post to come off rude sounding. I lol’ed at your post. Just being a smart ass, because Jazz guys look at you with 3 heads for excessive bending.
That face you make when a shop expects you to pay $600 over market for a used Les Paul because of the “brilliant rootbeer burst”.
Um no. Just fuck and no.
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
That face you make when a shop expects you to pay $600 over market for a used Les Paul because of the “brilliant rootbeer burst”.
Um no. Just fuck and no. [/quote]
I’m seriously considering dropping £400 on having my guitar repainted. I took it to a luthier the other day and he showed me some of the repaints he’d done. Fucking awesome looking
[quote]Yogi wrote:
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]Yogi wrote:
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]Aggv wrote:
[quote]Yogi wrote:
you Americans get guitars so much cheaper than we do here in the UK! Scumbags[/quote]
Are there any manufacturers in Europe? [/quote]
I’m pretty sure it was PRS that made a single cut recently that was a European exclusive. [/quote]
I’ve never actually played a PRS. If I had unlimited money I’d own a couple but I find it difficult to see past Gibson[/quote]
I’m currently having the same problem.
If I buy used, I’m going Gibson, which is the most likely course of action.
If I buy new, I’ll get a Heritage before a new Gibson, even though it is sight unseen and might be a lemon.
Then there is the option of the PRS SE and put in some Duncan’s or other PAF knock off pickups. This will require playing hundreds of PRS’s until I find the one I like. The PRS SC245, which I would love, is just too expansive both used and new.
If someone gave me 8k tomorrow, I’d buy a PRS SC245, a Heritage custom & a used Standard, and only have 700 left over for the amp, lmao. I have a problem. [/quote]
I like the way you think. I just bought a used Gibson - first time ever buying used - and I’m so in love with it already. Took quite a gamble on it because it was on ebay and I couldn’t try it out, but I’m so glad I did. I mean obviously if you buy a gibson it’s unlikely you’ll have any complaints, but it’s still a risk
It’s a 1998 Les Paul Standard Double Cutaway. An LP DC’s been my dream guitar since I started playing and they don’t really make them anymore (you can get specials and studios but meh) so when I saw it on ebay I couldn’t resist.
If someone gave me the 8k in your scenario I’d buy a mesa boogie triple rectifier head and a speaker cabinet so big it’d be an affront to god.[/quote]
That is one sexy axe. Don’t repaint it!
Just ordered on of these. Drove two and a half hours last night to play one in a store. The version of THIS model they had needed some serious fret polishing, and they couldn’t match the online price. (They are blowing out old inventory and it’s a discontinued line.)
It’s basically the pickups I was going to put in the Rondo Agile Neck Through I was looking at. http://www.rondomusic.com/al3200tribalbluse.html Frets on the Agile were like skyscrapers compared to what I’m used to, and the frets on the MK were a lot better to me. While still bigger than my MIM Strat, they aren’t big enough for me to completely have to change my touch.
As to why I ended up going away from Gibson to a “cheap brand”
- Fuck Gibson. Just fuck em. I’m not paying a mega corp way over value for a name on a head stock. I just can’t do that, maybe if they cared about customers still. Plus I’ve read WAY too many times, that the stars are playing ghost builds with “Gibson” stickers on the head stock, and that Gibson sub contracts out most of there builds to places like MK/Rondo, etc.
- Watched a bunch of this dude’s videos on youtube “willseasyguitar” and he explained away a lot of the wives tales I “knew” were true about guitar using science and was able to explain it to me. Wood doesn’t matter, maple caps don’t matter, only thing that matters is the pickups once you plug in. Only time wood matters is when you aren’t plugged in.
So for $600 and a case, I’m getting $250 worth of pickups in a $500 body, with a hardshell case and all I should have to do is polish the frets and dick around with the setup (which I would have to do with a Gibson too.)
I’m happy with it.
That MK LP is a pretty guitar.
I’d have a hard time paying Gibson prices unless i earned a living playing music.
[quote]Aggv wrote:
I’d have a hard time paying Gibson prices unless i earned a living playing music. [/quote]
Pretty much, yeah. That’s the other part of it.
Chances of me selling this or any of my gear is slim. I’m not a swapping collector or anything. So I’m not worried about resale.
I’m pretty fucking excited and hope the weather holds they way it is during shipping.
[quote]dt79 wrote:
[quote]Yogi wrote:
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]Yogi wrote:
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]Aggv wrote:
[quote]Yogi wrote:
you Americans get guitars so much cheaper than we do here in the UK! Scumbags[/quote]
Are there any manufacturers in Europe? [/quote]
I’m pretty sure it was PRS that made a single cut recently that was a European exclusive. [/quote]
I’ve never actually played a PRS. If I had unlimited money I’d own a couple but I find it difficult to see past Gibson[/quote]
I’m currently having the same problem.
If I buy used, I’m going Gibson, which is the most likely course of action.
If I buy new, I’ll get a Heritage before a new Gibson, even though it is sight unseen and might be a lemon.
Then there is the option of the PRS SE and put in some Duncan’s or other PAF knock off pickups. This will require playing hundreds of PRS’s until I find the one I like. The PRS SC245, which I would love, is just too expansive both used and new.
If someone gave me 8k tomorrow, I’d buy a PRS SC245, a Heritage custom & a used Standard, and only have 700 left over for the amp, lmao. I have a problem. [/quote]
I like the way you think. I just bought a used Gibson - first time ever buying used - and I’m so in love with it already. Took quite a gamble on it because it was on ebay and I couldn’t try it out, but I’m so glad I did. I mean obviously if you buy a gibson it’s unlikely you’ll have any complaints, but it’s still a risk
It’s a 1998 Les Paul Standard Double Cutaway. An LP DC’s been my dream guitar since I started playing and they don’t really make them anymore (you can get specials and studios but meh) so when I saw it on ebay I couldn’t resist.
If someone gave me the 8k in your scenario I’d buy a mesa boogie triple rectifier head and a speaker cabinet so big it’d be an affront to god.[/quote]
That is one sexy axe. Don’t repaint it![/quote]
decided against the repainting in the end. Took it to a badass luthier the other day and it’s purring like a kitten now. Most playable guitar I’ve ever picked up and it’s all mine! Haha
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
As to why I ended up going away from Gibson to a “cheap brand”
- Fuck Gibson. Just fuck em. I’m not paying a mega corp way over value for a name on a head stock. I just can’t do that, maybe if they cared about customers still. Plus I’ve read WAY too many times, that the stars are playing ghost builds with “Gibson” stickers on the head stock, and that Gibson sub contracts out most of there builds to places like MK/Rondo, etc.
- Watched a bunch of this dude’s videos on youtube “willseasyguitar” and he explained away a lot of the wives tales I “knew” were true about guitar using science and was able to explain it to me. Wood doesn’t matter, maple caps don’t matter, only thing that matters is the pickups once you plug in. Only time wood matters is when you aren’t plugged in.
So for $600 and a case, I’m getting $250 worth of pickups in a $500 body, with a hardshell case and all I should have to do is polish the frets and dick around with the setup (which I would have to do with a Gibson too.)
I’m happy with it. [/quote]
did you try out the Gibson in the end?
Those MKs are really cool, I’d never heard of them before but I really like the Patriot in the blood red. I’ll add it to my list
[quote]Yogi wrote:
did you try out the Gibson in the end?[/quote]
Over the last couple of weeks I’ve played probably 12-15. Only liked one, and it was a 90’s build and would have to re-wire for split coils, and possibly end up putting Duncan’s in anyway.
So that would have been $1300, for a color I wasn’t huge on. Beat up tuners and dings and cracks, but the only one that “spoke” to me while I played it. I’m going to be honest I was very disappointed with some of the $3000 guitars I’ve played in the last couple of weeks. Looked amazing, but played like shit.
One dude… At a pawn shop tried to sell me a cream Custom shop for $3200. Only reason I didn’t laugh at him was the Glock 43 on his hip, lol. I mean, in his world a finish crack along the entire top of the body, one on the maple cap and two on the neck don’t reduce value… I played dumb, and he tried to fuck me.
End of the day, I’m not gigging here. So a cheaper model with solid construction and nice pickups will be more than enough for me.
As an aside: The neck joint on the MK’s and Rondo neck through are rounded like the PRS 245’s. Which I’m in love with btw.
I should be clear.
Species of wood is meaningless, likely even acoustically. It’s density that matters. And even then, it ONLY acoustically. Once you plug in what kind of wood is irrelevant. There is a youtube out there with this Swedish (or some other European) guy makes a guitar on top of a fucking beer crate, and it sounds… Not that fucking bad lol, once plugged in.
You can make a guitar out of any wood, once plugged in, won’t make a lick of a difference.
And pickups aren’t microphonic. They will only* ever create current with the vibrations of magnetic metals. (*assuming they aren’t pieces of shit that have the coils moving from you screaming into it. lmao) So if you’re “screaming into the pickup and can hear it through your amp” you’re either wrong, or vibrating the strings by yelling. The pickup isn’t picking up your voice.
[quote]Aggv wrote:
That MK LP is a pretty guitar.
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She’s wonderful. Overall, I’m very, very happy with this guitar at this price point.
Issues:
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I think they might have filed the nut too far on the low E. It buzzes open on what appears to be the first fret. I’m no expert, and I’m pretty sure these are 11’s that came shipped. I’ve raised the top half action by a quarter turn and eliminated buzz on A and D. Once I put on the 10’s I’ll be using I’ll play with the action a bit more, and get a new nut if I have to.
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Small scratch on the cap between the pickup selector and neck. Like someone at the factory had a ring on while testing and got sloppy. It’s impossible to see form more than 16 inches away. I don’t care
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One small place where the ebony bubbled when they put the fret in. Doesn’t effect the note, and it’s minor.
So, with that I’m pretty excited considering it was $600 shipped ot my door, and the case is very high quality. Fit and Finish are good, although the weight and lack of belly cut on the top are going to take getting used to. The larger frets have my fingers aching this morning too…
Sounds awesome.
Acoustically (outside of the buzz from the E, which is part on me when not playing in the open position) it is very full, robust, vibrant and projects better than my Strat. It’s rich and even from low to high, with very nice sustain.
Plugged in it is very dark and bass heavy, which drowns out the mids, and muddy’s the low end. Highs are what you would expect from an LP style guitar. Was up to about 1am last night playing with the eq and amp model settings on my Zoom. (It’s what I use, can’t blast an actual amp while the kids are sleeping.) I’ve got the low end settled down and it brings the mids right out, and I’ve got the levels set so when volume is at 5-7 it is a relatively clean sound, with some slight gain, and when up to 10 the note squeal right out. Going for that classic rock sound with this set up.
All in all, I’m very happy, and got very lucky with an online purchase.
In other news, I figured out how to do the pinch harmonics without completely changing my grip on the pic, but I’m not very good at being able to do them consistently.
That guitar is sweet looking. Looks like burled walnut.
Pinch Harmonics - do you strike with pick and thumb together?
[quote]treco wrote:
That guitar is sweet looking. Looks like burled walnut.
Pinch Harmonics - do you strike with pick and thumb together?[/quote]
Nah. You pluck with the pick and then touch a harmonic with your thumb at various points on the string, back over the pickups. Some people call them squealies I guess.
It’s the squeal at the end of the riff. I do them by accident on some bends now and again, so I’m trying to do it on purpose so I can stop doing it by accident.
Haha
Down pick with the thumb and pick at the same time and your guitar will squeal like Billy Gibbons…
Probably the reason you hear it on bends is because you are pushing string up against thumb