First Cycle + Tren

Fantastic man.

Where did you ever get the idea that your trainer is one of the best in Europe? You should call the police and report him. I’m not even joking, whoever this guy is, he belongs behind bars.

He’s one of the best bodybuilders in Europe, that’s it, he got classified as it.

Yea, that’s what I was doing till now, I don’t know why I started when I was getting so good results. I’m going to take a step back and do things right. At least I have learned from this and hopefully everything goes right.

One of the best bodybuilders in europe is training 19 year olds AND has no idea how to run a cycle?

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I’m in no way attacking you, I understand why you’d listen to some jacked dude who’s training you and I do think you didn’t do enough to damage yourself permanently, I just think you’re being deceived in a big way. In the unlikely event that your trainer is one of the top bodybuilders in Europe, he’s a shitty person and you should distance yourself from him immediately.

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Yeah, I’m going to speak with him and only do diet and training, keeping things Natty. Thanks for the advice

This is real? Like…really…real? Not a troll job?

I see where you are coming from! That has to be the dumbest cycle I have ever seen.

If the guy is a real expert, the only rational thing I can think of this cycle producing, is totally shutting down this guy’s endocrine system, and forcing him into being on TRT (and making B&C protocols easier). Plus giving a 20 year old ED.

Yeah im pretty sure it was a coincidence also that he can sell you all the stuff you need? This guy isnt your friend, he almost FUCKED you up for life.

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Hope all is well iron_yuppie.
Since you’ve helped me a great deal about a year ago, if you may also help me to figure my second cycle if possible.

So for my second I would like to run:
01-12weeks Test E 750mg/week
06-12weeks Tren Ace 100mg EOD
12-till done 10000 ui Hcg
2 weeks of 100mg Clomid & 40mg 0f Nolva
week 3-4 50mg Clomid & 20 mg of Nolva

please advise if this cycle is completely off or the doses are wrong. I was advise by a “frequent user at my gym”.

Is the guy who told you about this cycle also the guy who sells you the gear?

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I’m unclear on the hCg dose. Is that 10,000iu? I assume that’s the total? And is that used from what week to what week?

Sorry about that,

It’s going to be 250iu ED till the 10,000iu is done

So that’s ~5 weeks of hCg. When would you be starting it?

Week 12 while on tren

No he states “he doesn’t sell”

But aren’t you done pinning week 12? If so then you’re not starting pct until week 17, which is going to be very unpleasant.

So what I’ve been told is to start HCG the last week of pinning? Hence why I’m asking for advise since you’ve helped me a year ago on my first cycle. Btw thank you very much it went so smooth and amazing.

You can absolutely take it right after you’re done pinning. But not for five weeks. You can’t run it during pct because it’ll be counterproductive. But for the two weeks between the end of your cycle and your pct it is perfectly fine.

And I’m glad to hear your cycle went well. Keep that positive momentum going, my friend.