Andrew is being more patient with you than I am going to be.
Your knowledge is WELL below the threshold where I would feel comfortable saying you’re in a position to be using these drugs. Almost nothing you said here makes sense. And I agree, it looks like all your info is coming from reddit (or similar). It’s wild to me how stupid the reddit community is when it comes to steroids.
I’ll tackle the SARMs first. Ostarine suppresses natural testosterone production. The idea that you wouldn’t need a pct with it is 100% wrong. I have a feeling that the people who think it’s not suppressive are just buying into the marketing. When Ostarine was introduced (along with other SARMS), the draw was that a) you could buy them legally as ‘research chemicals’, b) you don’t have to use needles, c) that it’s supposed to be as effective as steroids, and d) it’s not suppressive.
Much of the ‘information’ people have on SARMS, as I mentioned, is based on marketing. There were a whole lot of websites more or less disguised as informational, when they were actually promoting/selling these drugs. Same with the reddit community. Most of the early proponents of Ostarine who would start threads were actually there to make money off of it.
Here are the problems: a) Ostarine is often not supplied at the dosages its marketed at. There’s really no control over SARMS, and one could easily receive a product that is way overdosed, underdosed, or not even the right chemical. The SARMS market is very unreliable. b) it’s absolutely not even close to being as effective as real steroids. c) the side effects are undersold, but they are real. I personally don’t believe the side effects are any less than steroids, when used at doses like 20mg. 20 mg is more than 10x the average clinically tested level. I don’t see how anyone would consider that a ‘low’ dose. Dosing in tests has ranged from .3mg to 3mg per day… not 20.
That’s probably enough on the SARMs, lol. I think I’ve made it very clear I don’t support that idea. Other SARMS aren’t even worth mentioning, as Ostarine is probably the safest one.
So here’s where I would start on the testosterone: Have you ever gotten bloodwork to know what your test levels are now? 250mg a week is on the high end of TRT. Spending 12 weeks on levels just above TRT, only to tank your tesosterone for a month or 2 after, is about the worst idea I can imagine. Absolutely not worth it. If you have low testosterone in general, you should just get on TRT to start. If you don’t, you would be better off at a higher dose, I would say 400-500 per week. Although really, I would suggest not using anything, since you clearly haven’t done enough research to be prepared for this journey.
You absolutely do NOT want to start arimidex on day 1. Everyone responds differently to these drugs, and you will not know if/how much your estrogen is elevated if you start inhibiting it from day 1. You’ll almost certainly crash it, which is a goddamn awful result.
The clomid with nolvadex advice, which was given on forums for years, is some of the worst advice that was ever spread regarding pct. It’s nonsense. People seem to just assume more is better, might as well throw everything in. And it simply doesn’t work that way. Pick one or the other. When you combine these drugs, they actually work against each other and are less effective than just using one. I’d also cut the dose you’ve proposed for nolvadex in half. That’s more than you need. Less is more, in this case. As a side note: if Andrew has anything to add to this part, he’s probably a better source of info for me. I’m going off of what I learned nearly 10 years ago. I haven’t used a PCT in at least 5 years, as I’ve been on TRT myself for that duration. So I don’t keep up with current PCT stuff.
Your gym bros are morons.
