Hey, I’ve been reading up on AAS as much as I can with nearly every spare minute I have for a while now and am interested to try a cycle comprising of Sustanon-250 (From Organon) and Winstrol.
Being my first cycle I’m relatively anxious about the possible side-effects so I’ve decided to use what appears to be a relatively modest dosing to get a feel for how my body reacts to such compounds without going too full-on to begin with.
Anyway here is my proposed cycle, if anybody wishes to give useful advice then it would be muchly appreciated.
Weeks 1-12: 250 mg sustanon each week
Weeks 7-12: 50 mg Winstrol (oral) each day
At this point I would like to point out that I haven’t purchased the stuff yet and am waiting to finalise my planning before forking out for it. Which brings me onto my next point, I’ve read extensively on the effects of the common drugs used in PCT and other preventative drugs I plan to use to ensure I keep as many of the gains as possible while minimizing damage to my liver etc. I’d really appreciate some advice regarding PCT with SERMs and also if somebody can suggest how to incorporate an AI into the cycle that would be most welcome.
I was thinking something along these lines:
I will be using an AI during the cycle - Letrozole (probably start dosing after week 3-4)
Would PCT comprising of liquid Tamoxifen only (which I will also have on hand if gyno symptoms arise during any part of the cycle) be adequate or is it definitely worth spending the extra money to grab clomid for the first week or 2 of PCT?
Obviously I realise that the decanoate ester in Susta will still be active for 20ish days after the last injection hence pct will start after that.
Thanks for your time.
250 for 12 weeks is a waste.
Youre going to be suppressed forever and not see results to warrant something like that.
500mg for 8 weeks is a better plan. Most people begin to stagnante around week 10 anyway. Whether its from boredom or difficulty to force large amounts of food down for 3 months or how hard it is to train with max intensity for 3 months, who knows?
The difference in side effects from 250 to 500 is negligible. But the difference in results is serious.
[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:
250 for 12 weeks is a waste.
Youre going to be suppressed forever and not see results to warrant something like that.
500mg for 8 weeks is a better plan. Most people begin to stagnante around week 10 anyway. Whether its from boredom or difficulty to force large amounts of food down for 3 months or how hard it is to train with max intensity for 3 months, who knows?
The difference in side effects from 250 to 500 is negligible. But the difference in results is serious. [/quote]
Ok cheers man. Actually running the Sust for less time is appealing for many reasons and was something I was interested in asking about. Do you reckon I should dose with Winstrol the whole way through or leave it for the final 4 or 5 weeks of the cycle? I mainly wanted to add it at the end to give it a little kick incase gains were diminishing and maybe dry me out with respect to some of the water I suppose I’ll be holding by the end of the test cycle. Or would it be better used at the beggining? I am weary of running Winstrol for too long as I’ve heard the joint-based discomfort isn’t the most pleasant side, along with it’s Hepatoxicity.
and also thanks for being informative without patronising / arrogant which is kinda what I was worried about with making a thread such as this.
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Dont use methylated steroids for longer than 6 weeks for your first run.
Sustanon should kick in fairly quick as long as you inject in often enough to utilize the prop ester. A small shot every other day is the best plan.
I would use the winstrol at the end. Run it for 4 weeks. Start it week 10 and run it for the 3 weeks between the last shot of sustanon and the first dose of SERM for pct.
It wont do much for the water weight. It may do a little but controlling estrogen with an AI will have a better effect.
Would somebody mind outlining the best way to incorporate the Letrozole into a cycle like this?