I know lots of people are anti the concept of just taking an oral for one’s first cycle. Nevertheless, I’m planning on starting on an 8 week cycle of dianabol which would look like the following:
Alternating every other day with Nolvadex(20mg) and Proviron (50mg).
For my PCT I was planning on using 50mg of Clomid for 10 days (although I’ve read different stuff, saying one should load with 300mg and do 50mg for a month? or one should just do Nolv for a month?)
It’s a really simple/straight forward cycle and I’m mostly just curious what the best/most effecient PCT would be so I can keep as much of my gains as possible?
Nolva, Proviron, AND Clomid??
You’re spending more money and putting more thought into your PCT than you are your cycle.
8 weeks of nothing but D, especially for a beginner, won’t hurt you that much anyway.
The reason why I’m concerned with the PCT is mostly because I want to keep the gains. My understanding of D-bol is that although there are lots of gains, a large chunk of the gains are lost.
The Nolva and Proviron during the cycle are to keep away any potential gyno and to reduce/eliminate the bloating that occurs with D-bol. I don’t want people to know I’m on it.
Is this logic flawed? Is there a better way to keep the gains after the cycle?
i’m not an expert in any way but i’m waiting for my first cycle to get in now. from what i’ve gathered u would be better off throwing some test in there. i’m doing 8 weeks of dbol and test enth. as far as pct… i dont think that far ahead
[quote]Perklunk wrote:
The reason why I’m concerned with the PCT is mostly because I want to keep the gains. My understanding of D-bol is that although there are lots of gains, a large chunk of the gains are lost.
The Nolva and Proviron during the cycle are to keep away any potential gyno and to reduce/eliminate the bloating that occurs with D-bol. I don’t want people to know I’m on it.
Is this logic flawed? Is there a better way to keep the gains after the cycle?
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I would not take the nolvadex during the cycle unless you need it; save it for afterwards when you will need it. As for proviron some have tried using it as a pre-cycle as well as post. But here again the usage during is not necessary
[quote]bmf123 wrote:
i’m not an expert in any way but i’m waiting for my first cycle to get in now. from what i’ve gathered u would be better off throwing some test in there. i’m doing 8 weeks of dbol and test enth. as far as pct… i dont think that far ahead [/quote]
You might want to think that far ahead then. Don’t start a cycle without your proper anti-e’s and what not. You’d hate to be getting sore nipples in week 3 of your cycle and then try and get some nolva only to find it will take your source many days to get some or maybe he’s on vacation.
Are you serious about this? This is a joke right? Proviron works with test on cycle perfectly. Proviron on cycle makes the test more effective, works as an anti-e, increases gains via more free test in the body, and give your libido, arousal and intercourse the boost of a lifetime. I am never running test without proviron.
[quote]sapasion wrote:
As for proviron some have tried using it as a pre-cycle as well as post. But here again the usage during is not necessary
Revision. In this instance you are correct =) Dbol only no point in running proviron. No point in running the cycle but if people choose to waste quality gear hey its their decision.
To the OP. By cutting the bloat of dbol, you cut the entire purpose of running the dbol. It pushes water into the muscles, and gives you more strength. By cutting bloat from dbol, you make the dbol ineffective. Please do us all a favor and make sure to research next time before posting. I promise to read more carefully next time as well.
[quote]TrainerinDC wrote:
Revision. In this instance you are correct =) Dbol only no point in running proviron. No point in running the cycle but if people choose to waste quality gear hey its their decision.
To the OP. By cutting the bloat of dbol, you cut the entire purpose of running the dbol. It pushes water into the muscles, and gives you more strength. By cutting bloat from dbol, you make the dbol ineffective. Please do us all a favor and make sure to research next time before posting. I promise to read more carefully next time as well.
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Indeed