Hey all, A little about myself, I am 27 years old, 6’3" and have been working out for over 15 years. I recently got hit by a car and have fully healed my own back and shoulder problems that came from the accident. Along the way I discovered and got to try out all other forms of weight training (olympic lifts, power lifting, body building and high and low intensity cardio/movement training) and have been developing a type of “hybrid” training.
I am looking to show case myself to market my gym at an event next year at the beginning of summer and have the chance to dedicate all my time from now till then on training and getting ready to win the competition. Im looking for a cycle that will increase my muscle growth and strength quickly but at the same time keep me lean like i am now and able to still do high amounts of cardio. My diet will be extremely clean and I have prepped to increase my caloric intake from 4500 to 6000-6500 per day. I am new to steroids but i have done a few orals before and i really understand my body. I feel its that time to take it to the next level.
What I found was a 14 week cycle that consist of:
Weeks 1-10:
*500mg testosterone per week
*1 quarter tablet of Fincar per day (1.25mg)
*1 quarter tablet of Arimidex every other day (0.25mg)
*1 tablet of clomid every other day (50mg)
*320mg of standardized Saw Palmetto Extract per day
Week 11:
*300mg testosterone per week
*1 quarter tablet of Fincar per day (1.25mg)
*1 quarter tablet of Arimidex every other day (0.25mg)
*1 tablet of clomid every other day (50mg)
*320mg of standardized Saw Palmetto Extract per day
Week 12:
*200mg testosterone per week
*1 quarter tablet of Fincar per day (1.25mg)
*1 quarter tablet of Arimidex every other day (0.25mg)
*1 tablet of clomid every day (50mg)
*320mg of standardized Saw Palmetto Extract per day
Week 13:
*1.25mg of finasteride per day
*.25mg of Arimidex every other day
*100mg of clomid every day
Week 14:
*1 quarter tablet of Arimidex every 3rd day (0.25mg)
*50mg of clomid every day
Just wondering about some good brands so I can try and find some around here. Any help would be greatly appreciated and I will continue to do my research anyway. Thanks all.
You don’t need Clomid on cycle. I’d run it like this.
Week 1-12
Test C or E 500mg/wk pinned twice per week
Arimidex .5mg EOD
Week 13-14
Arimidex .5 EOD
Week 15-18
Clomid 100/100/50/50 This is assuming you already have clomid. I’d use Nolva if not 40/40/20/20
No SERM while on cycle just the AI
I’d skip the finasteride unless you are prone to MPB (I have no experience here)
Add in some HCG if you are worried about testicular shrinkage. I don’t worry about it but others do.
Saw Palmetto won’t hurt but it isn’t really necessary
weeks 1-12
test E/C 500mg
adex .5mg EOD
weeks 13-16
clomid 100/100/50/50 with adex taper
Wouldn’t you recommend to wait 2 weeks to start PCT with the long ester tests?
[quote]installglass wrote:
Wouldn’t you recommend to wait 2 weeks to start PCT with the long ester tests? [/quote]
you are correct my mistake
[quote]installglass wrote:
You don’t need Clomid on cycle. I’d run it like this.
Week 1-12
Test C or E 500mg/wk pinned twice per week
Arimidex .5mg EOD
Week 13-14
Arimidex .5 EOD
Week 15-18
Clomid 100/100/50/50 This is assuming you already have clomid. I’d use Nolva if not 40/40/20/20
No SERM while on cycle just the AI
I’d skip the finasteride unless you are prone to MPB (I have no experience here)
Add in some HCG if you are worried about testicular shrinkage. I don’t worry about it but others do.
Saw Palmetto won’t hurt but it isn’t really necessary
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I just wanted to make sure that at the end of the cycle i throw in clomid to help my body start building test naturally again to keep the “down time” that everyone seems to experience coming off a cycle and having a low test as your body reconfigures its self. The finasteride is to just make sure about the hair loss because my family has a bad case of early balding… I was also getting the hair loss but I have incorporated “green shakes” in with my morning breakfast as extra calories and just RAW greatness. Im really just making sure and i’d rather take it for the cycle then not and have sit happen. I only plan on staying on the cycles for a total of 2 years going off just as long as i am on. Im not really worried about the testes shrinkage because i know it does come back and I don’t really fuck with girls right now anyway. Im focused and dedicated to my goal and women really keep you from achieving the best in yourself.(Found out the hard way in previous years…)
Just only one question whats the difference between the 2 different test’s you listed ( the C and E) and I don’t know anyone who has used Nolvadex. Is it better or comparable to Clomid? ? Thank you for the response! Much appreciated. Aloha
So should I run the Adex through the entire cycle and taper at end or only use at end?
If you’re prone to male pattern baldness I would also consider throwing in some minoxidil and a ketonconazole shampoo like Regenepure DR or Lipogaine Big 3.
Testosterone from what I understand is the least friendly steroid on your hair and keto and minoxidil are very low in side effects, especially compared to finasteride.
[quote]USAWchamp wrote:
If you’re prone to male pattern baldness I would also consider throwing in some minoxidil and a ketonconazole shampoo like Regenepure DR or Lipogaine Big 3.
Testosterone from what I understand is the least friendly steroid on your hair and keto and minoxidil are very low in side effects, especially compared to finasteride. [/quote]
Thanks will look into it. I don’t suffer from it as much as the rest of my family does (I like to think because of my health habits) but I just want to be safe since its only 2 years
[quote]USAWchamp wrote:
If you’re prone to male pattern baldness I would also consider throwing in some minoxidil and a ketonconazole shampoo like Regenepure DR or Lipogaine Big 3.
Testosterone from what I understand is the least friendly steroid on your hair and keto and minoxidil are very low in side effects, especially compared to finasteride. [/quote]
Should i use with Fina? Or should I take Fina out totally and what are some of the side effects that others see if you know of any?
Adex for the whole cycle .5 EOD. See what I laid out above. You may consider a taper at the end as the test clears. Don’t use the Clomid until 2 weeks after you are off test. The test is a long ester so it will take 2 weeks or more to get down to natural levels. Starting Clomid at the end won’t speed this up. The test has to clear your system and your body has to have to respond to the low levels.
You just have to wait and do your PCT. That is why you start the Clomid 2 weeks after last pin. It is about this time that you should get back to normal levels and your body starts to realize that the extra test isn’t there anymore.