First Cycle Diet

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True that brother!

I will make another post with the before and after pics and I will prob keep posting DC training for World to hound me on…:slight_smile: I keed I keed.

Anyway, overall it’s been a slammin’ good time. Can’t wait to try some tren!

Just some basic facts though.
I started at 213lbs and guessing 15-17% Body fat

I am now at 234lbs and 13-15% body fat.

Now I have not started my cutting diet yet, I will prob start next week or so, and I think that combined iwth the DC training is going to land me somewhere around 225lbs and a goal of 12% body fat.

It’s like a never ending goal I’ve noticed!

I just wanted to look good naked! Now I am hooked… on the results that is!

Oh and a hot point Dbol can make you look watery and fat!

Test is the best

and Tren to win so I hear…

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I’m a little worried that your cutting so soon…

Do you have any specific reason for not wanting to maintain a bit first? I suppose it might not matter if you aren’t doing anything drastic, just wondering.

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Fun thing to try…

In a somewhat clear area… maybe a mile or so!

Take a bucket of golf balls and drive them with an aluminum baseball bat.
Generally speaking if you hit them right you never even see them, pretty funny.

The velocity at which they scream from your bat is damn near amazing. I would honestly guess they go prob 500-600 yars with some well over that.

Some of you bigger dudes will get a kick out of it.
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Use a cheap bat as it will get dinged. A wooden bat actually chips and breaks.

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[quote]GetSwole wrote:
I’m a little worried that your cutting so soon…

Do you have any specific reason for not wanting to maintain a bit first? I suppose it might not matter if you aren’t doing anything drastic, just wondering.[/quote]

GS hey bro the only thing I will be cutting it Carbs from 700+ to -100. Still will take in 3500 calories give or take 100. Guess I could have been more specific.
I plant to maintain these gains forever if you know what I mean. I just have to cut out excess water and belly fat from eating like a horse for the last 10 weeks.

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this is probably already been said since i have not kept up with this thread but looking at your original diet, i would take in more simple carbs (cane suger,Dextrose,white rice) in pre and post meals. this is great for building mass especially if u are bulking. also if u eat your preworkout meal about 2 hours before u lift, you should see a increase in your energy during the workout. post is to speed up the recovery.

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Dave yes I altered it a bot from what was originally writte, but now I am phasing out carbs for some fat cutting.

Thanks!

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Read Through Good Stuff!

A lot of debate on the amount of cals in the beginning.

What is your ‘natural body type’ and do you plan on keeping carbs that high and calories at around 21xlb next ‘bulker’?

Also one more if you don’t mind how long after end of cycle, not PCT, are you cutting carbs down?

Good luck on keeping gains, I believe you will work your ass off in the gym so the drop in carbs won’t make any major impact.

Thanks a lot!
RetailBoy

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[quote]Randizo wrote:
Dave yes I altered it a bot from what was originally writte, but now I am phasing out carbs for some fat cutting.

Thanks![/quote]

good deal, for me it makes 100% difference if i really focus on my pre/post workout meals (strength,energy,stamina,recovery…)

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[quote]retailboy wrote:
Read Through Good Stuff!

A lot of debate on the amount of cals in the beginning.

What is your ‘natural body type’ and do you plan on keeping carbs that high and calories at around 21xlb next ‘bulker’?

Also one more if you don’t mind how long after end of cycle, not PCT, are you cutting carbs down?

Good luck on keeping gains, I believe you will work your ass off in the gym so the drop in carbs won’t make any major impact.

Thanks a lot!
RetailBoy[/quote]

Damn scary avatar bro! Ha!

As far as body type I find myself hard to place and it seems after this cycle it’s certainly changed.

Carbs for next cycle absolutely! Carbs were definitely my friend throughout this cycle, and I think a big part of my gains.

I figure I will start cutting carbs as sson as PCT starts, as I am a bit anxious to cut water, but honestly I may just play it by ear and do what my body tells me to do.

I will still be eating like (I mean it) but just getting the carbs under control and turning on the fat burning machines in my body. I am really starting to leasn up as it is right now and I’m not 100% sure why.
I think the DC Training has alot to do with it. I mean squatting anything 20 times burns fat!

Even though I am in statsis right now I probably feel more libido now than I ever have. But I am sure that’s about to plummit!

I will have some before and after pics posted in the next week or so. Tanning has done wonders too! And honestly there have been no shortgae of ladies in my life lately.

Now I REALLY don’t consider myself all that big, but I had a friend of a girl I am seeing say there’s no way to get that big without steroids?> As she groped my pecs…
I think she just had a few too many drinks. But still yeah it spiked my ego a bit.

Anyway!~

Thanks for checking in on me bro!

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[quote]Dave1188 wrote:
Randizo wrote:
Dave yes I altered it a bot from what was originally writte, but now I am phasing out carbs for some fat cutting.

Thanks!

good deal, for me it makes 100% difference if i really focus on my pre/post workout meals (strength,energy,stamina,recovery…)[/quote]

Thanks for the info bro.
I will be bummed if I lose what I got from this cycle.
Although my clothing budget would be happier!

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Monday was another great DC Workout…

Hammer Strength Machine Press
4 plates per side (RP) All sets to failure
Set 1 7reps
Set 2 4 reps
Set 3 5 reps (not sure how I got 1 more)
Did about a 20sec negative on the last one.

Miltary Press - Barbell (RP) ASTF
warmup 135 lbs

185lbs
Set 1 6 reps
Set 2 4 reps
Set 3 2 reps
No Negative because I think death would be eminent on miltary press

Close Grip Bench Press
175lbs (RP) ASTF
Set 1 9 reps
Set 2 6 reps
Set 3 3 reps
No Negative

Wide Grip Front Pull Downs (RP) ASTF
185lbs
Set 1 8 reps
Set 2 6 reps
Set 3 5 reps

T-Bar Rows (No Rest Pause) No Failure)
205lbs
Set 1 14 reps
*Set called for 10-12 Next time I will bump it up to 225.

ABS (Not DC)
Cable Twists
40lbs X 15
50lbs X 12
60lbs X 10

Laying Crunches Machine
set 1 - 30
set 2 - 50

Platforms
2 1 minute holds

Cytosport Tangerine Protein Supplement Good Stuff.
Good Day felt strong, although shoulder was popping a bit on the military presses.

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Today was the last set of exercises for DC and we will start back over from the top heavier and harder this go around.

Standing Barbell Drag Curls
115lbs (RP)
Set 1 9 reps
Set 2 6 reps
Set 3 5 reps
Static

Pinwheel Curls (NO RP)
45lbs DBells
SET 17 reps each arm

Hack Squats (NO RP)
8 Plates 12 reps
4 plates + 2 25’s - 20 reps

Sumo Leg Press (NO RP)
SET 10 plates 17 reps

Hack Squat Calf Press *
4 plates 12 reps w/ Enhanced Negative

ABS (NON-DC)
Weighted Crunches
130lbs
SET 1 - 30 reps
SET 2 - 25 reps

No Cardio today
Cytosport Tropical
All in all felt good, but still feels like I am not doing enough volume but I am sticking to it for at least 4-6 months.

I am anxious to see strength gains on core lifts but I will wait it out.

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Today was a beeatch!

Incline Smith Press
225lbs RP w/ Static
Set 1 7 reps
Set 2 4 reps
Set 3 1 rep + Static

Chest Stretch

Machine Shoulder Press
100lbs per side (Not enough weight)
Set 1 13 reps
Set 2 6 reps
Set 3 4 reps + Static

  • This goes against DC but I felt a little pain in my shoulder so I stayed with low weight

Shoulder stretches

Reverse Grip Bench Press
155lbs (RP + Static)
Set 1 10 reps
Set 2 7 reps
Set 3 4 reps + Static

Wide Grip Pull Ups (RP + Static)
Set 1 6 reps
Set 2 4 reps
Set 3 4 reps + static

Deadlifts (I feel I did really well here)
No Rest Pause on Deads
Set 1 385lbs X 5 Reps
Set 2 315 lbs X 10 Reps

Back Stretches

Felt strong as hell on deads!
Now I feel beat the fuck up!

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So that appears to be a pretty damned good improvement in only 2 weeks time. Just remember to stick with it exactly, don’t add or take away. It works perfectly.

An interesting note to the log would be showing your improvements in parentheses as well.

World

EDITED POST:

Also, did you do the tricep stretches? I feel these are what really tears me up and gets shit growing for my tris. Like I’ve said before, the extreme stretches I outlined for you are absolutely vital to this routine. Trust me on this.

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You got it bro, and yeah I feel like on some of these exercises I was perfecting the DC & RP and technique before going gangbusters so now I am going heavy on everything. I felt the Deads were a pretty good pull for my size.

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[quote]World1187 wrote:
So that appears to be a pretty damned good improvement in only 2 weeks time. Just remember to stick with it exactly, don’t add or take away. It works perfectly.

An interesting note to the log would be showing your improvements in parentheses as well.

World

EDITED POST:

Also, did you do the tricep stretches? I feel these are what really tears me up and gets shit growing for my tris. Like I’ve said before, the extreme stretches I outlined for you are absolutely vital to this routine. Trust me on this.[/quote]

Yes sir doing all of the stretches I just don’t list them here. We’re def doing all stretches, Dbell behind the head!

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Another day another increase in resistance.
That’s my new motto on DC Training.

Today’s Workout: () (Denotes Increase over previous weights)

Standing Ez Bar Curls
(135lbs) RP
Set 1 7reps
Set 2 4reps
Set 3 2reps
Very Short Negative maybe 9 seconds, couldn’t hold it anymore

Reverse Grip Cable Curls
(120lbs) RP
Set 1 8reps
Set 2 6reps
Set 3 4reps
20 second negative

BICEP STRETCHES*

Squats (Very happy with the weights today)
No RP on Squats
(315lbs X 7 reps)
(185lbs X 20 reps)
Major increase over last go round which was 285lbs X 10 and 135 X 20
Next time I will push the 315 for 10 reps no problem.

Lying Leg Curls
140lbs no increase RP
set 1 8reps
set 2 6reps
set 3 5reps

Leg Press Calves
(275lbs) learned how to get great extension today, back off weight and get up on those big toes/ball of foot.
1 set 12 reps, with enhanced negative
painful, awesome, loved it.

Full Ham, Quad, and calve stretches*

NOT DC:
Roman Chair Work for 15 minutes
Decline Ball switch (whatever it’s called) 25 reps with medicine ball.

Cardio:
18 mins @ 3.8mph treadmill

Felt great to get such good numbers on squats especially knowing I can push more.
I might blow the jugular but I think I can easily push 405 at least once!

Is there anything wrong with squatting very quickly? Form is solid, depth is right on, but I’ll do about 1 rep every 3 seconds.
It’s like a quick drop and an explosion up. Doesn’t hurt at all, so is there anything wrong with that?

World you the man thanks for setting me up on this, my workout partner is sold too.
Our only complaint if you want to call it that is never seem to be doing enough for the Bi’s?? Which could be psychological being that we both want bigger guns…

Thoughts?

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I would advise keeping your first set of squats low rep. Meaning 4-7, don’t go too high on these.

The reverse grip cable curls are a straight set, by the way…

In terms of biceps, give it time grasshopper… the size will come if you’re eating for it. Like I said, you should stick with this routine for quite some time… meaning at least 3 months… if not years…:slight_smile:

Just remember to always increase the weight if you have achieved the set rep range. Even if it is only 5 pounds, increase it.

World

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[quote]World1187 wrote:
I would advise keeping your first set of squats low rep. Meaning 4-7, don’t go too high on these.

The reverse grip cable curls are a straight set, by the way…

In terms of biceps, give it time grasshopper… the size will come if you’re eating for it. Like I said, you should stick with this routine for quite some time… meaning at least 3 months… if not years…:slight_smile:

Just remember to always increase the weight if you have achieved the set rep range. Even if it is only 5 pounds, increase it.

And on the squats I think the DC you sent said first set 6-10, I only did 7 so no more than 7 next time which means I need to go heavier, which is great, I’m ready to start squatting big boy weights. I’ll shoot for 350 for 4-7 next go round.

World
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Hey brother thanks. A local friend was telling me that training to failure so much releases huge amounts of cortisol into the body which he said can be catabolic and aid in storing fat. What’s your take on that?

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I forgot exactly what it said, but if it says 6-10, then shoot for 6 or 7. So next time you squat, don’t be scared to hit it up with 350.

And don’t forget about double checking the routine to make sure you don’t RP certain sets… like reverse grip cable curls…haha

He might claim that, but I can tell you from personal experience that DC training really leans me up. So you tell him to do his program and you’ll do yours, and then see who leans up first…

Just what I’d do anyway…

World