First Cycle Advice

Pharma / TRT
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Critique away:

See my first real cycle below, previously I did 2, 2 week Mag 10 cycles and about 10 weeks ago a 2 week M1T cycle at 10 MG and 20 MG of DBOL, plus 10 MG of Nolva ED and 20 MG for 1 week post in the last 12 months. Been researching this for the last year or so.

Stats
Age 42
Ht 6? 1
Weight 215. Lost about 25 LBS of fat using Swolecat?s program in the last 16 weeks or so.
Training off and on last 20 years, last 3 years busting my ass.
Core lifts: Squat 335 for in the 3-6 Rep Range. Deads max at 405, Bench up to 225.

Right now I am getting over an AC joint problem, so I have lost a lot of bench strength.
The ortho loaded me up with some cortisone so that should hopefully fix the problem. If it doesn?t get better I may have to postpone the cycle a while.

Had my physical 2 weeks ago, my current test level is 387, which is low but in the normal range. My doc didn?t order any other test but that one. My LDL was up a bit but still in normal. I am a little concerned here. I am hoping the Nolva in the PCT will aid this a bit. Normal prostrate size, that?s a fun thing you guys under 40 can look forward too.

Diet seems dialed in and I plan on eating about 300-500 over maintenance, with 2 G of protein per pound of BW.

Goal to add 10 + lbs of keepable muscle and keep the fat gain to a minimum.

Training program:

I have been debating on using the Mag10 Phase 2 growth surge training program based on twice a day work outs. I would adjust and maybe run the training program the whole 6 weeks if the recovery is everything it?s supposed to be while on. Seems like that would get the most out of the cycle, may take a lighter load in week 4 and add a week so I have 2 3 week twice a day cycles. I have quite the home gym and time to lift morning and evening.

My 6 week cycle:

Week 1 FL 1 G of test cyp.
Week 2-5 600 MG Test Cyp.
Weeks 1-6 Dbol at 40 MG ED spaced out through the day, I may drop the DBOL back a bit after week 2. I really got some oily skin the last few days on just 20 mg day of the Dbol in the 2 week period and with the CYP I am sure this would just add to that side.

Anti-E?s/PCT

Weeks 1-7 Femara 1.25 MG M-W-F
Weeks 8 Nolva at 40 MG
Week 9 & 10 Nolva at 20 MG Plus Alpha-Male ED
Week 11 Check for additional need for Nolva and keep the Alpha Male Up

No clomid, from research I have done it seems Nolva is better for the HDL and LDL profile and basically does the same thing as clomid.

Debating using HCG, I have read the threads on the weekend protocol and Llewellyn?s end of cycle protocol. I think both will work, but I am not sure with the amount I am using I will need it. Any comments here?

OTC Supps:
Milk Thistle
Melatonin ( I don?t sleep well normally)
ALA
Aceytl L Carnitine
Multivitamin

It was recommended to me to use an injectable form of B-12 for appetite. Anyone else do this while on?

One bro I PM?d about this cycle suggested adding 300 MG of DECA for the joint problem in weeks 1-4 and 75 MG of Winny a day in week 8 and 9. My libido seems to be running hot and cold lately. I don?t know if it had anything to do with the short cycles or being over 40, I think the latter, MAG 10 boosted my libido and made me feel like a horny 18 year old. So I don?t want to fuck with DECA now, maybe later and I don?t want to add the winny until my AC problem is solved, it?s not the only joint issue, just the worse one. The rest are OK, but they are 42 years old.

The only other thing I have considered adding is Tren Enanthate from an underground lab source, however, being this is my first cycle, not sure if it?s the wise thing to do on this one. If I did, I would FL that at 500 MG and add 250 a week through the cycle.

Any insight and suggestions from the vets would be greatly appreciative.

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Looks like you’ve thought things through pretty well.

If you’re having joint problems it would be beneficial to include Deca or Equipoise (EQ being the preferred drug). Your sex drive should not be affected as you are using Test concurrently.

Also, I’d be careful with Dbol/Test, as the two together can cause a host of sides. I like a little Dbol just for the boost in mood, but it doesn’t do much for me in terms of maintainable muscle.

You may also wish to include finasteride/propecia if you’re concerned about your prostate.

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One other thing: Drop the milk thistle and replace it with Liv52 or Livercare by Himalaya. It boosts appetite and does more for your liver than milk thistle (though you could run both).

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Since you asked for advice, here’s mine. Don’t waste your time and money on any of it.

At age 42 you can still make some impressive gains that will be yours to keep. Ya can’t stay on this crap forever, and when you stop, the gains will go away.

I’m not trying to be the morality police here. I don’t see a moral issue with using steroids at all. Just speaking from experience.

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Warhorse:

Thanks for the comments. As far as the EQ or DECA not sure. Thinking about adding the Tren Enanthate, since its a Nadrolene derrivative, perhaps it will work similar to the DECA. I want to be conservative on the first go around.

WTF:

Some gains are keepable and maintainable with right strategies. At my age, I want some help and have made the decsion. It’s a personal choice.

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At your advanced age (LOL) I would think you would want to be conservative. Adding Tren to Test is a good recipe for injury because of the massive strength gains and inhibition of collagen synthesis brought on by high-dose Test. I suggest you find and read the thread entitled “AAS & Tendon Health.”

Should be able to find it with the search engine.