I think you should really play the dbol by ear, or even consider taking it as a pre-workout or only on workout days. I’ve never ran it longer than 4 weeks because the water gets to me psychologically.
And I agree with Reed, run the test at 500/week. You’ll see great gains from 400 a week don’t get me wrong. But 500 is a decent bench mark to see how you react and lets you gauge your response for future cycles.
All in all it looks like a great first cycle, not much unlike my own first run. However I went from 183-185 to 210 and finished at 205.
You may get a little squishy (water retention) running dbol that long along with the test. I know I did and I only ran dbol for 4 weeks. Looks like you got some aromasin though and should work better than adex. You will probably need a higher dose right away on the dbol then not as much later on with just the test. Just go by how you feel as far as how much AI to use and how long to run the dbol.
Once the dbol kicks in and you get some water retention you are going to be quite a bit stronger which feels awesome, but just be careful on overhead lifts and bench press. Your tendons and ligaments have not adapted to the higher loads yet and injuries are common. Looks like you did some good research though and have the appropriate items on hand. Good Luck man!
Oh I am just wrapping up my first cycle. Very similar to yours
week 1-4 DBOL 30 mg ed. Split into 3 10 mg doses spaced out throughout the day.
week 1-10 500 mg test e/ 250 mon 250 thur.
week 1-4 adex .5 eod week 4-10 .25 eod
week 1-11 HCG 500 IU/ 2 250 IU shots
Don’t know if you can get HCG or not but I have not got shutdown at all.
I’ll keep an eye on the bloating. Maybe short dbol run would work better…
Right now, I don’t have access to HCG… nor the extra money now. I’ve been piecing this cycle together for about 5 months now… dipping 20 bucks out of paychecks here and there. <<< THE STRUGGLE
And thanks for the heads up on the overhead lifts… clean & press, military, etc are frequent lifts… have to make sure I don’t get too hungry for the weight
[quote]leadhead wrote:
Oh I am just wrapping up my first cycle. Very similar to yours
week 1-4 DBOL 30 mg ed. Split into 3 10 mg doses spaced out throughout the day.
week 1-10 500 mg test e/ 250 mon 250 thur.
week 1-4 adex .5 eod week 4-10 .25 eod
week 1-11 HCG 500 IU/ 2 250 IU shots
Don’t know if you can get HCG or not but I have not got shutdown at all.[/quote]
Oh…your shut down. Get bloodwork done. hcg just kept your nuts full.
[quote]leadhead wrote:
Oh I am just wrapping up my first cycle. Very similar to yours
week 1-4 DBOL 30 mg ed. Split into 3 10 mg doses spaced out throughout the day.
week 1-10 500 mg test e/ 250 mon 250 thur.
week 1-4 adex .5 eod week 4-10 .25 eod
week 1-11 HCG 500 IU/ 2 250 IU shots
Don’t know if you can get HCG or not but I have not got shutdown at all.[/quote]
Oh…your shut down. Get bloodwork done. hcg just kept your nuts full.[/quote]
I realize that I am artificially producing test and after stopping the hcg yes I will be shutdown. That being said running with HCG much better than not imo
Only one way to find out with the dbol. If you find you are carrying too much water than you’d like, take more ai or just drop it, its a pretty low dose as it is. 10 to 15lbs sounds realistic as long as you do everything right and your body responds good to pct.