Thanks for all the input. I went to my doctor to get on HCG. I was on it briefly to drop some weight and I felt amazing. My doctor said he doesn’t prescribe HCG. Where does a guy turn? I tried another T doc and he said I wasn’t a candidate due to my testicle size, etc. looking for help to get the HCG.
A real trt doc. Stop messing with these amatures. Where are you?
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I can put you in touch with a doc. Email in bio
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Louisville,KY. Any recommendations?
Closest and top doc is at tier1hw.com it’s a drive but worth the peace of mind.
He’ll answer all your questions and guide you properly. No nickel and dime or crazy pricing on trt meds.
Thanks Enackers. I’ll make a road trip out of it.
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@bwarner66 you got google? you can buy HCG off the internet no script required. No don’t ask where that is against the forum rules. You will need to buy bac stat water mixing syringe and injecting syringes.
He’s a great doc. You can find him on YouTube . Find lifting dermatologist channel and look for dr nichols. Steven the dermatologist leaves a link to the Facebook group.
Join us there and you’ll find there are a dozen docs and a thousand members there. Just mention enacker invited you and i will approve your request. I’m a moderator there. Just be sure to answer the questions asked when joining.
I have googled, do you recommend a particular one? Always afraid I’m paying for something that isn’t what they claim to be.
Not really. See if you can find any reviews on the place you are looking at. I am a defy patient its 40 bucks for HCG 5,000iu vial (lyophilized) Just to give you a ball park range of what you should pay.
Testosterone usually lowers CBG - cortisol binding globulin and estrogen regulates cortisol peaks and lows . When you are using AI to lower estrogen ( good enough ) your cortisol levels are also going down .
I don’t know if you had your cortisol levels checked before . If you had border range or low cortisol levels this can effect libido , mood and energy level in a way you would be surprised . I suffered 2 years to figure this out and when I did all my symptoms were relieved .
Cortisol natural stimulation supplement is MSM ( methylsulfonylmethane ). You can find it on any supplement shop or vitamin shop .
I can put money , you will have a day and night difference after just using it for a day and a good night sleep .
Also you need to up your dosage of testosterone - I am on 200mg and take no AI
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Getting HCG. What is the recommended dosage for TRT @ 200mg a week?
Thanks for all your input.
For what? How much hcg ? What is your free t at. You don’t add hcg until you know what feee t makes your body happy.
Enackers,
I’ve reached out to Defy medical for help. Can’t find a Dr in Louisville who will prescribe. There are weight loss centers that will give it, but it’s like $500 for 6 weeks of 50iu a day. Any recommendations?
Thank you.
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Purchased MSM today; what dosage would you recommend? These are 1000mg each.
Thanks again
Bw
If you want a doctor and not a clinic you can check out tier1 and doctor Nichols. I love being their patient.
Jeffery ritherbusch in Florida is great. A doc in jay Campbell’s round table. They do telemedicine.
There are more but these are the closest. Difference is defy is a clinic they serve many men. You get more direct personal care when you go to a actual doctor that treats patients in person: I prefer this over a out of sight out of mind approach. Although I would of chosen telemedicine if I knew the doc was awesome and they spend the time with me that I need.
Why hcg is it for fertility?
I would start low like 200iu and slowly increase to 250, 300, 350. If you get symptoms it won’t last long and you know your threshold for hcg. If you cannot take the amount needed for fertility you should add FSH. Or try a different brand. I know guys who got their wives pregnant on 250 is twice a week.
Sorry don’t mean to scare you. some guys do just fine on hcg. Ifs just a common known issues. Most men don’t like it.
IWhat is msm? Is it the supplement for joints?
Honestly most men who start trt that have low e2 resolve these pains when trt gets estrogen to normal levels. It hydrated and has other me anism of action that should resolve most issues. If that doesn’t work and you have other problems that trt doesn’t resolve sure use it; but there’s so much more you can try like fish oil and etc.
I also heard low dose of an anabolic (forgot which) helps a ton with joint and pain overall.
@hardartery and @dbossa should know more on this topic
Deca is not unusual to take for joints. Personally, I’d give BP-157 a go before Deca. Glucosamine sulfate is quite beneficial for connective tissue, some guys do well with MSM as well. Chondroitin is expensive snake oil that more frequently provokes a bad reaction and is best avoided.
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Methylsulfonylmethane (MSM) is used to treat a number of symptoms and ailments. You can Google that one.
I added 100mg a week of Nandrolone a week and my joint pains have vanished. I will be trying 50mg, then 30mg, then 20mg etc to see how low of a dose I can take and get the same effect.
I had a huge benefit just from stopping the AI way back when and my estrogen was 35 at the time. It’s now over 60 with even less joint pain than before, plus way more libido and erection strength.
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Deca helps joint pains, but unfortunately it only relieves them until you take it. As soon as you stop the pains go back, its like a temporary fix.