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It is funny reading this thread. This whole thing is a prime example of what this forum has become in a sense… Every thing from the OP to the Vettes
This is just the internet, I feel dumber for having read the breath that was wasted by either party making derisive remarks
They arent e-stats and i have done a cycle of fast action s-drol and cel m-drol about 6 months apart thats it. I dont consider them real cycles because most of it is filtered out by the liver and cycles only last 4 weeks. I wasnt a jerk to anyone until bonez kept trying to get his diggs in with stubborn comment when i was completely humble to him. Why are my stats so hard for you to believe? If it seems unreasonable to you maybe i should be doing the teaching… Maybe i should be getting the respect after all you are the ones juicing and i am just now starting. Where will i be in a few cycles? And no i wont be fucked up because i am still doing my reading and keeping my doses small.
Shut the fuck up and leave. You are an idiot and will not get any more help from us.
Come on guys, this whole fucking thread is asinine. Congratulations on your lifts, yes do more reading.
Yes, you can still fuck yourself up with small doses. We all need to take a step back and chill the fuck out…
I could deadlift 475lbs at a body weight of 215lbs, completely clean. Yes, it is not major by powerlifting standards, but I think it is respectable nonetheless by the other gym goers. OP, don’t let this thread and its responders leave a bad taste in your mouth, we have been dealing with a lot of people who post on here and want to be spoon fed information, or are too young, or haven’t been working out long enough.
So hopefully that will help you understand why some of the responders in this thread are tripping and yes, perhaps you guys need to drop your doses 
[quote]ni-xplode wrote:
Sorry I was vague about my strudture
ok how bout this:
week 1-10 sus (m,w,f at 180mg a day)
week 4-9 tren e (t,th 200mg a day) start adex .25 mg eod
week 10 tren e (t 200mg)
week 11 .25 adex eod
week 12 .25 adex eod
week 13-17 nolva 30,20,20,10
[/quote]
Please read more before starting
wks 1-8 Sustanon 540mg/week (150mg EOD)
wks 1-7 Tren E 400mg/week (110mg EOD)
wks 1-8 Adex 0.25mg/EOD
9 0.25mg/E3D
10 0.125mg/E3D
wks 10-14 SERM PCT
[quote]ni-xplode wrote:
They arent e-stats and i have done a cycle of fast action s-drol and cel m-drol about 6 months apart thats it. I dont consider them real cycles because most of it is filtered out by the liver and cycles only last 4 weeks. I wasnt a jerk to anyone until bonez kept trying to get his diggs in with stubborn comment when i was completely humble to him. Why are my stats so hard for you to believe? If it seems unreasonable to you maybe i should be doing the teaching… Maybe i should be getting the respect after all you are the ones juicing and i am just now starting. Where will i be in a few cycles? And no i wont be fucked up because i am still doing my reading and keeping my doses small.[/quote]
I dont care what the fuck your stats are. The bottom line is that youre a fucking retard when it comes to AAS use. Tren to help you get your bloat on bra? Dude, whatever it is youre smoking you need to cut it out. This thread amuses me
Ok guys, I thought I would throw together a log on my first cycle to get feedback/ inform anyone who cares to follow it. I am running 540 mg of sus per week for 10 weeks ancillaries include nolva and adex. I will be doing 2 injections mon and thurs… I know what you are thinking I need to dose every other day, but according to my research on the compound and the esters I found that 2 per week will keep me stable.
Started first dose on thurs morning to get it in my system for my new routine I am starting this week. here are my opening stats:
6’3
247lbs
15.8% bf
I will post my opening measurements later when I have my sheet in front of me.
thursday: first dose 270 mg finished my workout week with arms and delts nothing major to report.
Monday: second dose 270 mg. started my german volume workout today, I have never done one so it was a bit rough.
Supplements pre-workout include:
6mg of aakg
3mg glutamine
25 mg of mahung leaf and 150mg of caffiene (1 thermogenic pill)
15 grams dextrose (carbs)
2 cups of skim milk (carbs & pro)
25 mg of whey protein
5mg of creatine
1 anti-oxidant pill
1tbsp of mct oil
so today I started the german volume with lats and pecs. did 10 sets of 10 reps flat dumbbell press superseted with 10 sets of 10 reps on weighted pull ups.
My eyes were a bit bigger than my muscles because on my first set of dumbbell press I grabed the 120’s because I thought if I can do 15 of them I should feel real good with only 10. after the first set I dropped to 100 even because I felt as if I was jumping in a liitle too much lol. I did 100 lb dumbbels 5 sets for 10 reps and got a spotter for my last 5 sets while superseting 10 weighted pull-ups with a 25 lb weight for 10 sets.
I finished these 2 workouts and had a bad ass pump and did 3 sets of 12 incline cable fly superseted with cable rows 3 sets of 12. Finished the workout in about an 1.5 hrs. I would have liked it to be more like an 1.25 hrs but I was beat and needed a little recovery rest towards the end of the workout. Tomarrow will be my leg day and I will post results on thursday.
My workout split will be 3 days on 1 day off 3 days on 1 day off (3 day double split). I will wait to see how I feel and may give my self 2 days off in between. I am not a hard gainer by anymeans and am more of a mesomorph so my recover is ussually very good.
post workout nutrition include:
glucosamine
5 mg of creatine (will be lower intake of this tomarrow to 5 mg post workout and none the rest of day)
3 mg of aakg
3 mg of glucosamine
25mg whey protein
15mg of dextrose
2 cups skim milk
banana
tbsp of peanut butter
2 tbsp of flax seeds
I will be consuming 3-4 dozen egg whites weekly with a few yellows here and there. my mornings I will have a cup of oats with 1/2 cup of blueberries mixed in. before bed I will drink a protein shake with milk and will add:
3mg glucosamine
3mg aakg
3mg of GABA (hgh stimulation which i love, makes me very sleepy and I have wild dreams)
1/3 of a dose of ZMA
I will be eating every 2.5 hrs daily.
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Could you please list the proper units of measurement for your supplements. You are not taking 3 mgs of glutamine or creatine or whey protein, you are taking grams of it, or 3000 mgs.
Tren will not help with the bloat.
Sustanon has proprionate in it, so it should be injected every other day.
Just saying…
Anyways, more reading, studying…
This honestly isnt the best place to get 1 on 1 advice… the best place would be the internet under “steroid Profiles.” Read the fuckers and educate yourself… I am disapointed with the responses to my threads but hey its what ever… water under the bridge… Fuck it. Take what ever you want and get Hauuuge! Its on you in the end… Ive taken sust every third day or EOD… its irelevent if your pinning other juices at the same time… It all adds up… but who ever said to switch to a 1 Ester Test has the right idea, im not argueing that point at all…
I read somewhere: do your homework,then do some more… seriously reserch these hormones your using… sounds like a case of under education… take a head of warning and just do your homework before you screw your body up and waste your money/gear