[quote]John S. wrote:
Attacking your own party memebers in that game is a way to break the game into getting more hp. Ususally its put in so that you can cure confuse(use a blackmage to hit the guy confused).
Final fantasy 2 is to easy to break.[/quote]
Right, just beat yourself up until your HP is low, then viola! You have a new max HP! I never did that, though. I just refrain from healing my characters when I know that a quest’s monsters are weak, and use Phoenix Down during battles to trigger that.
As for your basic RPG advice request, DJWolfpack, rule #1 is to TALK TO EVERYONE in the town that you’re in. Sometimes you need to listen to more than one townspeople to be able to piece together where direction you’re supposed to go to next. Also rulers of a town can usually tell you where to go. I can’t remember playing a RPG where you still have to wander aimlessly even after talking to all the townspeople. I know it’s tough to be patient if a town has like 50 characters and 40 of them spout out useless shit.
I’ve heard reviews, when I was a kid and FF IV was called FF II for the Super NES, that it was the first RPG to make it easy to guide you from quest to quest without the aimless wanderings. I agree with that.
[quote]BF Bullpup wrote:
John S. wrote:
Attacking your own party memebers in that game is a way to break the game into getting more hp. Ususally its put in so that you can cure confuse(use a blackmage to hit the guy confused).
Final fantasy 2 is to easy to break.
Right, just beat yourself up until your HP is low, then viola! You have a new max HP! I never did that, though. I just refrain from healing my characters when I know that a quest’s monsters are weak, and use Phoenix Down during battles to trigger that.
As for your basic RPG advice request, DJWolfpack, rule #1 is to TALK TO EVERYONE in the town that you’re in. Sometimes you need to listen to more than one townspeople to be able to piece together where direction you’re supposed to go to next. Also rulers of a town can usually tell you where to go. I can’t remember playing a RPG where you still have to wander aimlessly even after talking to all the townspeople. I know it’s tough to be patient if a town has like 50 characters and 40 of them spout out useless shit.
I’ve heard reviews, when I was a kid and FF IV was called FF II for the Super NES, that it was the first RPG to make it easy to guide you from quest to quest without the aimless wanderings. I agree with that.[/quote]
Thanks for the tips.
OK, so let me get this straight, you beat up one of your party members until his HP is super-low and then it INCREASES? Do I have to do anything to see that increase or will it happen automatically after the fight is over?
Sorry if these are lame questions but it’s been bugging me that I gave up on FFII and I want to see if I can give it another go, as the story did seem pretty good.
[quote]Djwlfpack wrote:
BF Bullpup wrote:
John S. wrote:
Attacking your own party memebers in that game is a way to break the game into getting more hp. Ususally its put in so that you can cure confuse(use a blackmage to hit the guy confused).
Final fantasy 2 is to easy to break.
Right, just beat yourself up until your HP is low, then viola! You have a new max HP! I never did that, though. I just refrain from healing my characters when I know that a quest’s monsters are weak, and use Phoenix Down during battles to trigger that.
As for your basic RPG advice request, DJWolfpack, rule #1 is to TALK TO EVERYONE in the town that you’re in. Sometimes you need to listen to more than one townspeople to be able to piece together where direction you’re supposed to go to next. Also rulers of a town can usually tell you where to go. I can’t remember playing a RPG where you still have to wander aimlessly even after talking to all the townspeople. I know it’s tough to be patient if a town has like 50 characters and 40 of them spout out useless shit.
I’ve heard reviews, when I was a kid and FF IV was called FF II for the Super NES, that it was the first RPG to make it easy to guide you from quest to quest without the aimless wanderings. I agree with that.
Thanks for the tips.
OK, so let me get this straight, you beat up one of your party members until his HP is super-low and then it INCREASES? Do I have to do anything to see that increase or will it happen automatically after the fight is over?
Sorry if these are lame questions but it’s been bugging me that I gave up on FFII and I want to see if I can give it another go, as the story did seem pretty good.[/quote]
You know how you attack to get your attack up? its the same with hp, once you hit them enough there hp will go up, the more damge you do to them(without it being a 1 hit ko) the more max hp they will get, its easy to get a massive amount of hp even before the 2nd boss.
[quote]Djwlfpack wrote:
So, I have to admit, I’m very inexperienced when it comes to RPGs. Are there any tips out there in terms of what I should do when I start up a game (follow story, look for side quests)? I feel like I’m just wandering aimlessly at times with no real direction.[/quote]
Keep in mind that Japanese RPGs are often not even considered to be true role playing games. They’re often called “adventure games with stats” because you have little or no influence over the story, and sidequests are mostly for getting new loot to help with the main story, and don’t matter much in the grand scheme of things. The whole point is to uncover the story, not make it yourself.
Also, many Western games like Oblivion and Diablo are not really role playing games either, since you have little influence over the world and the whole point seems to be killing monsters to get better loot to kill bigger monsters to… ad infinitum. The “story” is just an excuse to kill stuff and crank up your stats. These games are often called roguelikes, hack and slash/diablo clones, dungeon crawlers, and so on. They aren’t always mindless, since many genuinely do test your tactical thinking abilities, but they are usually just pointless click-fests.
Surprisingly, there are very, very few real RPGs out there, with maybe 10% of games called RPGs actually legitimately meeting the reasonable criteria of actually defining your character through his actions. Fallout, Baldur’s Gate II, Planescape Torment, Ultima VII, Geneforge, Der Langrisser and Arcanum are examples of excellent true RPGs you should check out.
to Djwlfpack: every stat works that way for the game. inc HP by taking damage, inc MP by casting spells etc. once you get the spell swap you can pretty much lvl up HP to what ever you want, do it early enough and make it to Mysidia before you even go to the second town and you’ll have access to the best spells, weapons and armor you can buy lol. Game takes forever to beat though.
Is it just me, however, that wishes the 8bit versions of these games came on the cartridge? I still have FF1 on NES and it so classic. Still prefer the oldschool version over the new ones. FF6 for DS though, holy man, best thing ever.
Sorry for the hijack, and no disrespect meant to FF players or gamers in general, but the thing that always got me about Final Fantasy is why are there so many sequels and parts to it? After all, if it is truly a FINAL FANTASY, shouldn’t there only be one part?
Pardon my ignorance, feel free to flame me if necessary.
[quote]tmoney1 wrote:
Sorry for the hijack, and no disrespect meant to FF players or gamers in general, but the thing that always got me about Final Fantasy is why are there so many sequels and parts to it? After all, if it is truly a FINAL FANTASY, shouldn’t there only be one part?
Pardon my ignorance, feel free to flame me if necessary.
Carry on, I hope the remake is good though.[/quote]
each final fantasy is a completely different game. ff10-2 was really the only sequal
[quote]tmoney1 wrote:
Sorry for the hijack, and no disrespect meant to FF players or gamers in general, but the thing that always got me about Final Fantasy is why are there so many sequels and parts to it? After all, if it is truly a FINAL FANTASY, shouldn’t there only be one part?
Pardon my ignorance, feel free to flame me if necessary.
Carry on, I hope the remake is good though.[/quote]
Because Squaresoft was about to go out of business for making terrible 80’s sidescrolling shooters and other mediocre drivel, and a role playing game at the time was just a desperate ploy to stay alive, hence the title. Most people did think it would be their last game. Final Fantasy actually caught on, surprisingly, so they started making more, and went on to be successful.
What makes the original so interesting is that it’s like a Western dungeon crawler, but by FFIV the series had become just like any other jRPG.
[quote]tmoney1 wrote:
Sorry for the hijack, and no disrespect meant to FF players or gamers in general, but the thing that always got me about Final Fantasy is why are there so many sequels and parts to it? After all, if it is truly a FINAL FANTASY, shouldn’t there only be one part?
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The “Final Fantasy” name stuck because at that time Square was going bankrupt. They decided to make one last game, a fantasy game to end all fantasy games. Oops, sales in Japan and the U.S. went through the roof.
I don’t like the idea of sequels like X-2 or XII: Reveant Wings. People never seem to like them because they usually don’t play anywhere like the FF game they were based on. The only spin-off that I’ve heard to get overwhelmingly great reviews is Final Fantasy Tactics, I believe. I’m just playing the real FF games and trying to beat them all.
I remember the original Game Boy had Final Fantasy Legend I and II. I played more like Dragon Warrior than FF. II was essentially a Zelda-style walk-and-slash adventure. Sounds like Nintendo just slapped the FF name on those games when they were imported from Japan, just like when (sorry, off-topic) Ultra (Konami’s American-only games division) released a Metal Gear 2 game for the American NES that they, not Konami, developed themselves. The MG creator found out about that, got pissed at the disrespect, and made a far superior MG2 game for the MSX gaming system.
Final Fantasy Legend is actually a completely unrelated Japanese series, and it isn’t very good. They slapped the Final Fantasy name on it to sell it better in the US. I wouldn’t even bother with it.
Final Fantasy ADVENTURE is the one that plays like Zelda, and it is actually the prequel to Secret of Mana! Secret of Mana 2 is available as a translated ROM on the internet, as well. It’s surprising how little Square really supported that series in the US, even though Secret of Mana did well.
As far as jRPG stories go, Xenogears, Final Fantasy Tactics, Front Mission 3-4, Lunar 2, and Suikoden are probably the best I can think of. There aren’t many great stories prior to CD based games because only so much text can fit in a cartridge.
Good luck with soldiering through FF2, since it’s really the low point of the whole series, and that’s really saying something.
[quote]Higher Game wrote:
Good luck with soldiering through FF2, since it’s really the low point of the whole series, and that’s really saying something.[/quote]
Thanks. I just want to see if I can do it, then move on to FF3 for the DS…hopefully by the time I make it through those 2, FF4 will be on its way to the U.S.
Redsox, Higher Game, and Bullpup, thanks for clearing that up for me. Like I said, no disrespect intended, I was just ignorant on the matter, but now I know.
[quote]tmoney1 wrote:
Redsox, Higher Game, and Bullpup, thanks for clearing that up for me. Like I said, no disrespect intended, I was just ignorant on the matter, but now I know.
Thanks again, much appreciated, happy holidays.[/quote]
No worries. You’ve always been a great poster. Happy Holidays to you too.
