GNP (already been said, but I’ll elaborate):
As a wrestler he had a size advantage as a 205 pounder due to his ability to cut properly. Now most UFC caliber fighters are coached how to cut properly
When Tito was still fighting in the UFC is when my interest really began to stick. So while I do “kinda like” like the guy, I just can’t see him with an ongoing career in LHW. Coleman v Bonnar wasn’t very exciting IMHO and Coleman’s performance wasn’t that impressing, but congrats to him on the win. Their match in 106 should be interesting - I’d like to see Tito’s skills after such a long break from the game.
[quote]Nikiforos wrote:
Ruggerlife wrote:
Also outside of the trash talk he’s very professional (suit and tie as well as a relatively articulate speaker).
Tito Ortiz Music Video! - YouTube (bear with this one, it becomes worth it)[/quote]
Yeah, tito should stick to fighting. Every time he opens his mouth I want to punch myself in the face. I will never pay for card or watch a fight where that dimwit is commentating.
I Dont reall like Tito, and don’t think he would fare well with most of the light heavies.
at all. although he did loose to Rashad, because of the one point deduction and looked beter then ever
against lyoto even though it didnt work out.
However he is smart as hell at self promotion if you are fighting him, you are going to have a huge Pay per view. You are going to get great press.
Love or hate dude he is polarizing people like to see him win or get his ass beat.
He can give a great interview, he was the first to thank his sponsors , the first to have Drama
at pre and post fights.
kmc
I happen to like Tito. While he does talk alot, he is a character to watch. Aside from that, I heard a rumor that he is currently training with GSP. That would be interesting, if true, although I don’t see him going to Grag Jackson’s camp at all.
I think there is a pretty good chance of him being very competitive in the LHW div. There has been talk for a long time about him not being able to train properly becuase of a serious back injury. That seems to have been resolved, so we will see. Was it just talk or is going to be in much better shape?
I think Tito’s best days are behind him and he may never crack the top ten again. As said before his skill was good but it was his size advantage from cutting that allowed himm to bully people into playing his game. As for his fight with Coleman I tink it would be nostalgic to see them go at it. Tito was on his way up when Coleman was on his way out and having them both come back makes it interesting. I hope Tito takes it myself.
One thing I always loved about Tito is how almost everyone rags on him about being a “loud mouthed asshole” until they watch The Ultimate Fighter season (team Shamrock vs Team Ortiz) and then they’re like “oh wow, he’s not so bad after all”. Ironically I was one of these people.
As a fighter however, he was pretty solid and his hands were getting better later into his career, but considering the current talent of the UFC and especially what the future talent will bring, I don’t think Ortiz can survive if he does make a come back.
[quote]Big_Boss wrote:
dhickey wrote:
Big_Boss wrote:
Speaking of age/wear and tear…Ortiz is fighting Mark Coleman at UFC 106
Terrible match-up for coleman. I have no interest in this fight. Coleman is a one trick pony and to put him with another wrestler with better skills in other areas is unexciting. Obviously trying to get Ortiz a W.
At least it will be somewhat nostalgic…lol. [/quote]
What’s that UFC called, “UFC 106 - Dinosaurs?”
[quote]Beast27195 wrote:
I happen to like Tito. While he does talk alot, he is a character to watch. Aside from that, I heard a rumor that he is currently training with GSP. That would be interesting, if true, although I don’t see him going to Grag Jackson’s camp at all. [/quote]
He can train with whoever he wants - his game hasn’t changed since he started, no matter who he trained with.
He will beat Coleman and no one else. They can put him against evans after he loses to rampage, but sugar will put a hurtin on him too. The only other interesting fight i see him puttin on is Liddell 3, but that fight is not really that interesting either.
I could see ortiz being competitive with rampage or evans, and being capable of beating any of the mid level fighters on any given night, im interested too see if his hands improve much after training with freddie roach and how much his back injury had impacted his performance. If he beats coleman id like too see him matched up with a young guy like ryan bader.
He’s training hands with Roach which was his worst skill, so we’ll see.
Tito is very strong. He can take a punch from Jet Li. 
I’ve always been a fan of Tito’s and I’m glad he’s back in the UFC.
To me, he was one of the first MMA guys to grasp the idea of self-promotion. The “feud” he had with Ken Shamrock was straight out of a pro wrestling handbook and both guys played it up perfectly. Their fight was the first real “big” fight the UFC put on with the Fertittas and Dana in charge; and the subsequent rematch in 2006 was at the time the biggest drawing fight in the company’s history.
Tito also went on to draw the UFC’s first-ever 1-millon PPV buy event in his rematch with Liddell. Tito really earned my respect in that fight for weathering the storm in the first round when he was hurt really badly. He came back and (I think) won the second round and was doing OK in the 3rd until he got caught up in the slugfest with Chuck and was put to sleep.
He’s the only guy that’s ever had Machida in any kind of trouble and he defeated Evans (scored a draw) and Forrest, so he’s proven he can beat the younger guys, even when he’s not 100 percent.
The Coleman fight is a good tune-up for Tito. I’m expecting UFC to really use him in a big way in 2010 as his time is limited in the sport in terms of being a big-money draw. UFC really wants to go to Mexico and he’d be a perfect guy to headline that card.
He suffers from the fate of a lot of the mid-2000 veterans of the UFC: the lack of desire to evolve with the sport. Although recently he’s been training BJJ again, and with Freddy Roach, Tito’s weakness is that he’s not willing to move to a big camp and train with a team of top fighters.
To be honest, I think the era of top tier fighters coming out of a single camp is over. These guys are realizing the sport is a ‘team’ sport, with camps like AKA and Greg Jackson consistently breeding top 10 fighters. GSP saw the weakness of being the top guy in Montreal and trains GLOBALLY now- NYC, Brazil, New Mexico etc.
This is not to say Tito can’t be a factor in the UFC, but I agree with most- his time as a contender is over. Being a PPV draw and competitive fighter, sure, he can still hang in there. But being a serious threat to the top 3-5 guys? No, I’m afraid it’s not possible.
They were top 10 before joining these camps.
Tito had good under hooks in his wrestling. His swimmers body type structure(big upper body, long skinny legs)also helped him bully people around