Hi everyone, I am happy to find such an informative forum. The only problem that I have is that I am finding it difficult to obtain info on females using juice. I am a current national level track athlete, I am looking into using either test prop or suspension along with some GH. I do have a few questions though. Just to give you a little background I have a sound diet and have used winstrol and anavar in the recent past. I am 5’6 200 with 380 lb. squat, 160 lb. snatch, 200 lb. bench. My main concern is not testing positive by the ioc or ncaa. I was planning on starting my cycle soon after the suprise ncaa testing date, they usually only test us once. I was wondering how soon the test would be out of my system, which test would be more beneficial, how much to use in conjunction with GH. I am fairly new at this but have done a ton of research. Just hard to find good info on how these types of compounds affect women. I am aware of the possible side effects and am just asking how long I should use and when I should end the cycle. I don’t really know if the clearance times found on the neat are accurate. I want to be clean before Nationals in may. Thanks for all the help that you can give.
out of curiousity, what events do you compete in? those are some pretty impressive stats btw.
Thanks, I compete in the throw events. Also power clean 235, ovearhead press 170, and incline 185. Can’t wait to get even stronger.
jesus christ! im 5’7 200. maybe you should start offering us advice!!!
btw take a look at meso-rx.com
i think there is some articles there that may help you.
I would never recommend any type of Testosterone to a woman, period. If you’ve researched as you claim, you should know it causes irreversible side effects - if you want a better visual, just type “Nicole Bass” into a search engine.
Elitefitness used to have a great forum for women who juiced, but now that it’s run by the Feds I’m not sure where they went. Perhaps someone here knows where they went?
The price for glory is sometimes to high.
Correction: Make that “too” before the Grammar Gods send forked lightning down upon me.
I know all about the possible side effects. I was wondering if they would be lessened by using a low amount. I would probably not use over 25-40 mg per week. I am willing to accept some sides. It does suck, but I have to push the envelope if I want to catch up to my competition. Also I am looking at using it for only about 3 to 4 weeks at a time. I basically just want to use it to enhance the GH. If you think it would be adequate to us GH alone please let me know. Thanks for the info so far guys. Keep it coming.
Just a suggestion: you should really not put your life in the hands of some anonymous internet personalities.
You can find someone to give you advice if you keep looking, but women who play with Testosterone will become masculine – it’s not a question of “if” but “when.”
I can’t imagine losing your hair and looking like a man are worth whatever glory you might get in your few years as a track star.
If you insist on using Test, please find a coach or female BB/ fitness competitor who has direct experience with women and performance enhancing drugs.
They’re out there. I’ll see if I can find someone to get you pointed in the right direction.
Thanks for the info warhorse. My dillema is that I have to stay as secretive as possible due to the nature of IOC testing. I would hate to be flagged and tested. I am on here to gain knowledge. I am not going to just take everyone’s advice and use it without putting it all into the big picture. I know that it is possible to use some sort of test and not look too masculine. Look at Denise Masino and others. I mean there are the extreme cases that you could site, such as Nicole Bass. I am just trying to find a way to level the playing field. Unfortunately if I want to stay competitive this is something I must do. This is not just for a few years of glory either it is a career. Thanks again for the help.
Understood, what a difficult dilemma.
I talked to a knowledgeable female friend and she said the females fleeing from Elitefitness went to irontrybe.com - the site is brand spanking new, not sure if it’s totally on the air yet.
Good luck!
http://www.irontrybe.com/forumswelcome.htm
up and running since dec. 22
used to be chemical muscle/strong chick.
My wife is 5’8" and 130. She uses about 40 mg. a week of test and has for a few years. She has no facial hair, no voice change, no more acne than she used to have before…nothing irreversible except the slightly enlarged clit which occured while working out her dose. As a side effect that particular one has it’s benefits…
She’s not taking the test for muscle building, although she is running a higher dose than she should for purely theraputic(sp?) reasons.
Acne is the first side you get. If you start with a low dose like 20 mg. a week and slowly raise it every two weeks or so until the acne hits pretty bad and then drop back a bit you’ll avoid all the other irreversible sides.
We went a bit faster than we should have so her clit got a bit bigger and her voice got hoarse for a bit but never changed because we backed way off and started again.
If you start messing with test you better buy a 110 volt vibrator because you’ll go through batteries too fast otherwise. That side effect is a definite one, but manageable.
http://www.femininemuscle.com/ is a very good informative site for women.
As far as using testosterone, I would suggest that you stick to using test suspension so that you can adjust the dose quickly should you begin to dislike its side effects. As far as stacking goes I would look into stacking test with the anabolic drugs such as Winstrol, Anavar. Just keep to drugs with very short half lives so that if you decide you need to stop, the drugs will leave your system quickly and the sides will be minimized. Also do a search on Charlie Francis - he was the coach of Ben Johnson, and put out some good information on steroids cycles for women. I hope you find some a good sound info out there - good luck P-22
but isnt it true that the metabolites from winstrol remain detectable for long periods of time such as deca?
From what I have read the injectable stanazol stays in your system a few months. The oral version, which is what I used, clears in about three weeks. At least I hope this is the case or I am screwed. I probably won’t be tested for at least six more months so I should be fine. I wish it there was more info on detection and clearance times. Thanks for all the great info guys.
As a female athlete, I have moderate experience (about one year) with test prop. As far as sides, I did notice an increase in acne (which I was prone to before I started the test) and faster body hair growth (legs). My cycles are about 8-12 weeks in length. dosing is 2 25mg shots per week. Time off usually equals time on.
Some basic stats on me: I’m 5’6" 185lbs, 19% b.f. (calipers), w/ about 8 years of lifting experience. I play basketball (power forward) for a small d-1 school. As far as lifting p.r.'s: 225 bench (touch and go style), 380 squat, 29 inch vertical. I hope this helps some.
As a female athlete, I have moderate experience (about one year) with test prop. As far as sides, I did notice an increase in acne (which I was prone to before I started the test) and faster body hair growth (legs). My cycles are about 8-12 weeks in length. dosing is 2 25mg shots per week. Time off usually equals time on.
Some basic stats on me: I’m 5’6" 185lbs, 19% b.f. (calipers), w/ about 8 years of lifting experience. I play basketball (power forward) for a small d-1 school. As far as lifting p.r.'s: 225 bench (touch and go style), 380 squat, 29 inch vertical. I hope this helps some.
As a female athlete, I have moderate experience (about one year) with test prop. As far as sides, I did notice an increase in acne (which I was prone to before I started the test) and faster body hair growth (legs). My cycles are about 8-12 weeks in length. dosing is 2 25mg shots per week. Time off usually equals time on.
Some basic stats on me: I’m 5’6" 185lbs, 19% b.f. (calipers), w/ about 8 years of lifting experience. I play basketball (power forward) for a small d-1 school. As far as lifting p.r.'s: 225 bench (touch and go style), 380 squat, 29 inch vertical. I hope this helps some.
I’m not downgrading your athletic abilities, but what type of coaching do you currently have? Is it up to the national standards that you seek to obtain?
How long have you been training? How do you mean your diet is sound?
I’m 5’4", 126-127lbs and have a 180lb bench (that’ll be improved on very soon, btw), 275lb squat and a 315 deadlift. I also have competed (and won) in strongwoman; am currently training for power lifting (June) and a bodybuilding show (May). I’m also a lifetime drug-free athlete.
You can certainly go to irontrybe - there are ladies there that know quite a bit about AAS and women. However, many of them may also say that what it comes right down to is the training. Always, the training. Also, what reasons are behind your seeking this advice? Is is recovery? Strength?
Charlie Francis would be an excellent resource, as well. I understand the nature of national level athletics; especially that of track and field. And for that, while in awe of the athletes that participate at the elite level in this sport, am also saddened that many, many have to resort to the drugs.