FBI Tell of Abuse at Guantanamo

[quote]orion wrote:
hedo wrote:
orion wrote:
hedo wrote:

Information warfare is the fact that Al-Queda operatives are trained to claim torture as soon as they arrested. Since they have the media duped no matter what the US does, they will be accused of torturing prisoners. Unfortunately many have bought into this type of warfare and have also been duped.

Now if US operatives would spread the disinformation that,

Al-Queda operatives are trained to claim torture as soon as they arrested. Since they have the media duped no matter what the US does, they will be accused of torturing prisoners…

they would gain nothing from such a lie, wouldn`t they?

Who do we trust here? US government or Al Queda?

In my book? Neither.

And then remains the fact that people have been released, because of their, um, innocence, that claimed to have been tortured.

You are a case in point. As long as it is Anti-American you will believe it. The details really don’t matter do they?

I’ll believe the US over Al-Queda.

Although if I was a dedicated Anti-American pundit from an anemic Western European country my fears and bias may overcome my common sense. I’m sure you can relate to that.

Ahhh, the truth is something to be determined by emotions and by “taking sides”…

Truthiness!

That must be were I routinely go wrong…

Seriously, how long do you think the Bush administration could bullshit the world until their credibilitiy was exactly zero?

If you think it is common sense to trust this guy and his henchmen, there is a tower in Paris I?d like to sell you…

Even it`s value in scrap-metall is huge…

And yes, if an European citizen is kidnapped, tortured and then set free by the US, I believe him over the US, especially if case after case after case comes known…

Did you ever consider that when “facing reality” becomes “America hating” you have a serious problem?[/quote]

It’s actually truthfulness not truthiness.

The rest of your post was equally non sensical.

Western Europeans have been duped for years and anti-american sentiment has replaced reason. You are a perfect example to ridicule.

Embrace Al-Queda I’m sure they will be very kind to the Austrians.

It must be very annoying to reaize credibility from Europeans isn’t something Americans seek any longer and haven’t for a long time.

[quote]hedo wrote:

It’s actually truthfulness not truthiness.

The rest of your post was equally non sensical.

Western Europeans have been duped for years and anti-american sentiment has replaced reason. You are a perfect example to ridicule.

Embrace Al-Queda I’m sure they will be very kind to the Austrians.

It must be very annoying to reaize credibility from Europeans isn’t something Americans seek any longer and haven’t for a long time.

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It is truthiness as defined by Steve Colbert:

Something that has to be true because your gut says so whatever the facts are…

And yes my post made no sense at all…

Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice…

You never heard that saying and it can in no way be applied to GWB…

Plus, I believe you are 100% right that Bush does not give a shit about Europe…

Hell, he does not even respect the Congress, Senat, the American voter or reality for that matter, so why should he respect us?

And once again:

Not anti-American.

Anti-torture

Anti-orwellian double speak

Anti-emerging police state

Get the difference?

[quote]orion wrote:
hedo wrote:

It’s actually truthfulness not truthiness.

The rest of your post was equally non sensical.

Western Europeans have been duped for years and anti-american sentiment has replaced reason. You are a perfect example to ridicule.

Embrace Al-Queda I’m sure they will be very kind to the Austrians.

It must be very annoying to reaize credibility from Europeans isn’t something Americans seek any longer and haven’t for a long time.

It is truthiness as defined by Steve Colbert:

Something that has to be true because your gut says so whatever the facts are…

And yes my post made no sense at all…

Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice…

You never heard that saying and it can in no way be applied to GWB…

Plus, I believe you are 100% right that Bush does not give a shit about Europe…

Hell, he does not even respect the Congress, Senat, the American voter or reality for that matter, so why should he respect us?

And once again:

Not anti-American.

Anti-torture

Anti-orwellian double speak

Anti-emerging police state

Get the difference?[/quote]

Well ifyou get your news from the Comedy Channel how could it be wrong.

I get the difference but you are not being truthful. You anti-American, people would have respect for you if you admit it. I don’t think your fooling anyone.