first off, the last post was from NPC under my name, I AM NOT HIm. I was still logged in when he sent that… 
Hehehe, alter ego type bullshit, your funny
[quote]Npccompetitor69 wrote:
Everything is fine, been doing this for about 20 years now . Blood pressure is lower than normal, cholesterol very low, and i can honestly say all the guys i started training with and some still compete have no side effects other than looking 10 years younger than we should and being incredibly healthy. i train with guys 20 years younger and bury them in workouts. You would think more top pros would be dead. Look at the guys from pumping Iron those guys abused steroids more than anyone and Only Ed corny has health problems. [/quote]
Bullshit! Get serious man.Those guys back in the day were hardly using the doses you advocate. Normally I wouldn’ jump on shit like this and everyone deserves their say, but #1: not everyone cares about being " on
stage" and as you said yourself, " I don’t have to prove anything to anybody", what qualifies as good gains varies from person to person, and I don’t know what you mean by incredibly healthy but I think that’s a stretch!
#2: this guy’s thread was about Favorite PCT if you recall, so how the hell did you get off on this rant? Not trying to attack you bro but I think your facts are a little muddled! P.S. As far as more top pros being dead, how is Flex’s kidney doing?, How is Momo B. doing?(dead), how about Mike Francois’ colostomy bag? Now that’s Healthy!
Hey npc you’ll catch alot of shit, but you don’t seem to care. How bout you start your own thread since this one is totally jacked. Lay out a cycle and explain it. I’d check it out for shits and giggles.
for some reason this guy still didn’t get an answer to the original question about everyone’s favorite PCT, I was also curious after I heard the question. Anyone other than npccompetitor69 want to give info?
I like 3-4 weeks of Nolvadex 25mg or so a day. I generally also run clen and/or Alpha Male as well.
A friend of mine is planning his frist cycle. Has been lifing for 8 years and is a good 50 lbs heavier than when he started. He asked me my opinion regarging his choise of products and pct and it sounded decent to me however im sure that some of you out there have tried something similair and have a few points to add or suggestions for changes.
What is planned is 1.5 cc prop, 1 cc tren and 1 cc win EOD for 11 weeks. 1 Nolva a day starting about 5 weeks in and clomid after at 2 a day for a week and then one a day for 35 days.
HCG was purchased as well as someone he knew suggested buying it as he used it in to come off a cycle years ago.
any thoughts…
Hopefully this can shed some more light on the origional topic as well.
See Ya
I’m trying out toremefine when my current cycle ends. The reviews are limited so far but quite positive from what I’ve seen. There doesn’t seem to be a whole lot of info out there though since it seems to be an unknown product outside of a few IBE freindly boards.
[quote]LillGuy001 wrote:
A friend of mine is planning his frist cycle. Has been lifing for 8 years and is a good 50 lbs heavier than when he started. He asked me my opinion regarging his choise of products and pct and it sounded decent to me however im sure that some of you out there have tried something similair and have a few points to add or suggestions for changes.
What is planned is 1.5 cc prop, 1 cc tren and 1 cc win EOD for 11 weeks. 1 Nolva a day starting about 5 weeks in and clomid after at 2 a day for a week and then one a day for 35 days.
HCG was purchased as well as someone he knew suggested buying it as he used it in to come off a cycle years ago.
any thoughts…
Hopefully this can shed some more light on the origional topic as well.
See Ya[/quote]
EOD shots along with virgin muscle syndrom might not be so fun.
First, can someone please answer the original question about pct, I’d really like to hear some opinions myself, secondly a queston for Prisoner22, what can be done to avoid those lower back pumps, they are impossible to train legs on. And thirdly, npccompetitor69 even though I may not want to step on stage, I’d really like to know what are some examples of the drug protocol of national competitors, I am seriously interested.
[quote]as wrote:
First, can someone please answer the original question about pct, I’d really like to hear some opinions myself, secondly a queston for Prisoner22, what can be done to avoid those lower back pumps, they are impossible to train legs on. And thirdly, npccompetitor69 even though I may not want to step on stage, I’d really like to know what are some examples of the drug protocol of national competitors, I am seriously interested.[/quote]
Who the hell cares about PCT tell us about your time machine. Look at the day you posted.
“Marty you must come back with me”
“Come back where, Doc?”
“Back----To the Future”
a test taper in conjunction with SERM application is what i used for the last few shorties i ran…will use it at the end of my long term cycle.