Favorite Hip Hop Acts?

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I can’t front-I’m feeling that Danger Doom album. I bought it a month ago because my friend told me it was fire. I’m laughing my ass off at some of MF Doom’s rhymes. If you’ve listened to the album you KNOW what I’m talking about-

“Hey If I may interject/ rap these days is like a pain up in the neck/ Cornier and phonier than a play fight/ take two a these and don’t phone me on the late night.”

I laughed for like a minute when I first heard that line. I don’t know how he thinks of these rhymes, but I love it.

Oh yeah my other acts:
Nas
Jay-Z
Outkast
PAc
Biggie
Mos Def
The Roots
Rakim (greatest MC whoever lived)
Eminem
A Tribe Called Quest
WU-Tang
Dr. Dre
Snoop
Common

I love Hip Hop- and no I’m not a music snob, I’d listened to “gangsta hip hop” too, (though I prefer positive hip hop). Too bad all of these cats getting played on the radio are making black folks look bad and can’t rhyme to save their lives.

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Alright, question for everyone. Are Hip-Hop and Rap the same? I don’t believe that they are. And that’s why I said Dre, Snoop and Eminem don’t belong a Hip-Hop thread.

I’m in no way insinuating that Dre, Snoop and Eminem are bad artists. I believe quite the opposite. Dre and Snoop were pioneers of Rap. And Eminem in my opinion have major talent.

I guess I just don’t put Mos Def, Common, and Jurassic 5 in the the same category as Dre, Snoop and Eminem.

That’s all I meant when I said they don’t belong in this thread.

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[quote]dre wrote:
Alright, question for everyone. Are Hip-Hop and Rap the same? I don’t believe that they are. And that’s why I said Dre, Snoop and Eminem don’t belong a Hip-Hop thread.

I’m in no way insinuating that Dre, Snoop and Eminem are bad artists. I believe quite the opposite. Dre and Snoop were pioneers of Rap. And Eminem in my opinion have major talent.

I guess I just don’t put Mos Def, Common, and Jurassic 5 in the the same category as Dre, Snoop and Eminem.

That’s all I meant when I said they don’t belong in this thread. [/quote]

Man, I think only one person mentioned KRS One/BDP. And as KRS would say, rap is something you do, hip hop is a way of life.

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[quote]Sgt Hayman wrote:
dre wrote:
Alright, question for everyone. Are Hip-Hop and Rap the same? I don’t believe that they are. And that’s why I said Dre, Snoop and Eminem don’t belong a Hip-Hop thread.

I’m in no way insinuating that Dre, Snoop and Eminem are bad artists. I believe quite the opposite. Dre and Snoop were pioneers of Rap. And Eminem in my opinion have major talent.

I guess I just don’t put Mos Def, Common, and Jurassic 5 in the the same category as Dre, Snoop and Eminem.

That’s all I meant when I said they don’t belong in this thread.

Man, I think only one person mentioned KRS One/BDP. And as KRS would say, rap is something you do, hip hop is a way of life.
[/quote]

I guess you can’t put it much better than that. You can sing (Lauryn Hill, Jill Scott) and be Hip Hop.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

I guess you can’t put it much better than that. You can sing (Lauryn Hill, Jill Scott) and be Hip Hop.[/quote]

Can a white girl sing and still be hip hop? Just wondering…

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On the Eminem subject, for pure technical proficiency his first two albums were fantastic before he headed straight towards pop mediocrity.

I think the guy is a cock. Unlike Hammer, who as we all know was too legit to quit.

But there’s no question the man can rap. Problem is when he started producing himself his music turned to dogshit. Eminem that is, not Hammer.

I think we’re due a Hammer revival.

Stop… 1-Pack time.

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[quote]1-packlondoner wrote:
Professor X wrote:

I guess you can’t put it much better than that. You can sing (Lauryn Hill, Jill Scott) and be Hip Hop.

Can a white girl sing and still be hip hop? Just wondering…[/quote]

Nelly Furtado.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

I guess you can’t put it much better than that. You can sing (Lauryn Hill, Jill Scott) and be Hip Hop.[/quote]

I love Jill Scott but she’s not Hip Hop becasue she’s not a lyricist. I’d put her in the Soul category. Lauryn Hill on the other hand is a hybrid (she can Rhyme at a high level and sing).

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[quote]1-packlondoner wrote:
Professor X wrote:

I guess you can’t put it much better than that. You can sing (Lauryn Hill, Jill Scott) and be Hip Hop.

Can a white girl sing and still be hip hop? Just wondering…[/quote]

If she can really sing she can. Some of Joss Stone’s stuff could possibly classify as Hip Hop or at least new soul. Also “Furgy”(sp?) from The Black Eyed Peas. Color isn’t the issue anymore. Lifestyle is. Justin Timberlake may come across as “pop” as far as his style, but the guy can sing and people would be lying to say otherwise. Some of those songs on his solo album sounded like what Micheal Jasckson might sound like if he hadn’t become an alien. However, even with Timberland backing him I think most would still classify his music as “pop” just because of his personal image.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

I guess you can’t put it much better than that. You can sing (Lauryn Hill, Jill Scott) and be Hip Hop.[/quote]

I completely agree. Lauryn Hill is amazing.

My wife saw her in concert in Chicago and she was quite disappointed in the show. And my wife is a huge Lauryn Hill fan. Oh well, maybe she had an off night as far as concerts go.

Nonetheless, she is still an amazing artist.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:
Justin Timberlake may come across as “pop” as far as his style, but the guy can sing and people would be lying to say otherwise. Some of those songs on his solo album sounded like what Micheal Jasckson might sound like if he hadn’t become an alien. However, even with Timberland backing him I think most would still classify his music as “pop” just because of his personal image.[/quote]

I’ve actually played with him on Xbox Live. He’s a cool cat. He’s definitely into the hip-hop culture. I wouldnt classify him as a wannabe. Maybe just a tad but he can definitely pass in the hip hop culture. He can sing his ass off there is no doubt about that.

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[quote]blackartsviper wrote:
Professor X wrote:

I guess you can’t put it much better than that. You can sing (Lauryn Hill, Jill Scott) and be Hip Hop.

I love Jill Scott but she’s not Hip Hop becasue she’s not a lyricist. I’d put her in the Soul category. Lauryn Hill on the other hand is a hybrid (she can Rhyme at a high level and sing). [/quote]

Jill Scott wrote that song sung by Erika Badhu and The Roots that came out year’s ago. If you ever download any of her live performances, you’ll find out quickly that she is also a lyricist. She just prefers singing. I wouldn’t put her on Hill’s level like you said, but she can rhyme.

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[quote]PGA200X wrote:
1-packlondoner wrote:
Professor X wrote:

I guess you can’t put it much better than that. You can sing (Lauryn Hill, Jill Scott) and be Hip Hop.

Can a white girl sing and still be hip hop? Just wondering…

Nelly Furtado.[/quote]

I like her new album.

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[quote]dre wrote:
Alright, question for everyone. Are Hip-Hop and Rap the same? I don’t believe that they are. And that’s why I said Dre, Snoop and Eminem don’t belong a Hip-Hop thread.

I’m in no way insinuating that Dre, Snoop and Eminem are bad artists. I believe quite the opposite. Dre and Snoop were pioneers of Rap. And Eminem in my opinion have major talent.

I guess I just don’t put Mos Def, Common, and Jurassic 5 in the the same category as Dre, Snoop and Eminem.

That’s all I meant when I said they don’t belong in this thread. [/quote]

here are a couple quotes that I think encompass the overall sentiment

“I’m sick of radio stations telling fibs/ and I’m tired of J.O.B. saying where hip hop lives”
-eminem

“This is dedicated to you hip hop hipocrats/ making wack songs like you dont give a sh*t…it’s not the money thats the issue/ but if thats the only reason that your making decent music, thats when I got beef wit choo/ and I’ma bring it to you like never/ go ahead call player hater if it make you feel better!”
-binary star (atletic mic league)

“I design rhymes in daylight, I’m primetime, I stay tight/ I walk a fine line between an MC and a Playwright/ I represent the underground world its a unique scene/ there no record deals, no videos, nor street teams/ I do shows to keep green/ I know I’m not a star man/ I’m signed to myself and the MICs my A&R man/ In double nine I guess is just a sign of the times/ the spotlight that I’ve been looking for is finanlly mine/ I never thought about the dough when I’m designing my rhyme/ as long as I can reach my peoples over vinyl I’m fine/ it aint about that/ Ive opened up for cats who aint as dope as me/ while they lip sync I rip the show hopelessly.”
-Juice “sincerly”

…damn that gives me goose bumps thats hip hop…almost consider it poetry, thought provoking, and intricate

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Now as for pure rapper…

MC mother fuckin’ Shan!

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[quote]Professor X wrote:
PGA200X wrote:
1-packlondoner wrote:
Professor X wrote:

I guess you can’t put it much better than that. You can sing (Lauryn Hill, Jill Scott) and be Hip Hop.

Can a white girl sing and still be hip hop? Just wondering…

Nelly Furtado.

I like her new album.[/quote]

She’s been hip hop for years. I have a bunch of white labels (bootleg vinyl) of her freestyling back in the day. Her roots are deep in hip hop. Shes also drop dead fucking gorgeous!

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[quote]dre wrote:
Alright, question for everyone. Are Hip-Hop and Rap the same? I don’t believe that they are. And that’s why I said Dre, Snoop and Eminem don’t belong a Hip-Hop thread.

I’m in no way insinuating that Dre, Snoop and Eminem are bad artists. I believe quite the opposite. Dre and Snoop were pioneers of Rap. And Eminem in my opinion have major talent.

I guess I just don’t put Mos Def, Common, and Jurassic 5 in the the same category as Dre, Snoop and Eminem.

That’s all I meant when I said they don’t belong in this thread. [/quote]

I used to think that rap was anything with harder beats, and hip-hop was anything with lighter ones. But now I think that’s all bullshit.

If you’re going to draw a line, hip-hop could be called more of a culture, the beat-boxing, graffiti(ing?), block party culture, which started with the very firsts, DJ Herc, Grandmaster Flash, Lost Poets, Afrika Bambaata, and died out with the huge upsurgence of gangsta rap in the early 90’s with Snoop and Dre. It’s back now, on a smaller scale, with Blackalicious, Jurassic 5, Mos Def, Common, and those guys.

But as a genre of music, if you’ve got bass and drum heavy sampled beats behind someone rapping, it’s all one and the same. I think the first ever used term for it was rap, but I like to call it hip-hop. Either way, the music is the same, the culture, maybe that’s a bit different.

Think of this. Public Enemy were definitely hardcore rappers. But are they hip-hop, or rap?

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[quote]PGA200X wrote:
Now as for pure rapper…

MC mother fuckin’ Shan![/quote]

Woah! It’s been a while since I heard someone mention the Shan!

In case no one caught it in my last post, and in case they haven’t been mentioned, does anyone listen to Grandmaster Flash or Afrika Bambaata? What about the Lost Poets? They were truly the FIRST political “rappers,” preceding even the Jungle Brothers.

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[quote]danmaftei wrote:
PGA200X wrote:
Now as for pure rapper…

MC mother fuckin’ Shan!

Woah! It’s been a while since I heard someone mention the Shan!

In case no one caught it in my last post, and in case they haven’t been mentioned, does anyone listen to Grandmaster Flash or Afrika Bambaata? What about the Lost Poets? They were truly the FIRST political “rappers,” preceding even the Jungle Brothers.[/quote]

Damn I got about the JB’s! I loved Biggies JB sample in Machine Gun Funk. Very subtle but memorable none the less.

I did a GREAT live blen with AB’s Planet Rock and Busta’s Put Your Hands Where My Eyes Can See.

Fuck guys! You’re making me want to go out and buy a set of tables tonight!

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OK I’m going to drop knowledge and end this confusion of what is Hip HOP. Rap is Hip Hop Music-the reason why it was called Hip Hop Muisc is because it emerged from the hip hop culture of 1970’s South Bronx. Thus rapping was called Hip Hop. As we all know there are four core elements of Hip Hop:

B-Boy Dancing
Mcing/Rapping
Graffiti
Djing

However when Hip Hop Music emerged into the mainstream culture it was quickly labelled as only-Rap Music and Hip Hop Music was co-opted and confused for R&B music. That is why you have people calling groups like Destiny’s Child and TLC as Hip Hop Groups even though they are clearly not. Same thing happened with B-Boy Dancing (when it was labelled as Break Dancing). The Hip Hop as R&B label is mostly a result of the media’s willingness to brand something (much like when Seattle Punk Rock was labelled as “Grunge Music”).

However, in recent years certain cats have started to use the Rap and Hip Hop labels to differentiate between the commercialization of the music and culture. That is why you have cats calling the shucking and jiving that we see on the radio as “Rap Music”. It represents the labelling by corporate media and the mainstream media. While we hear dudes bragging about lyricists such as Doom, Common, or Mos Def as “Hip Hop artists”, because they represent essence of the having fun positivity of the origins of the culture.