[quote]proxy wrote:
Who could forget the old guys like Tribe, Gangstarr, Common and PETE ROCK?!
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Commom is EXTREMELY underrated.
Pete Rock showed up at a club I was DJing at but we couldnt get him to drop a few freestyles. That would have blown the roof off of the building.
And Outkast is also underrated. Sure they may be out there a bit with some of their stage acts and video but the songs the make are simply outstanding. And Andre is a phenominal actor too boot!
[quote]PGA200X wrote:
And Outkast is also underrated. Sure they may be out there a bit with some of their stage acts and video but the songs the make are simply outstanding. And Andre is a phenominal actor too boot![/quote]
I don’t think they’re necessarily underrated. They are one of the few hip hop groups to have a diamond selling album. (Biggie’s Life After Death may be the only other one. I’d have to check.)
I haven’t had a chance to hear the Idlewild album yet, but I really hope it doesn’t suck. It almost seems like they just threw this one together to “prove” they hadn’t broken up. Or maybe people are expecting too much and it amazingly dificult to follow a string of five great albums put out.
[quote]PGA200X wrote:
proxy wrote:
Who could forget the old guys like Tribe, Gangstarr, Common and PETE ROCK?!
Commom is EXTREMELY underrated.
Pete Rock showed up at a club I was DJing at but we couldnt get him to drop a few freestyles. That would have blown the roof off of the building.[/quote]
how long have you dj’ed for? are you into the scratching?
to name a few more classics
-DITC
-J live
-Big L
-dialated peoples
-atmosphere (ryhme sayers entertainment)
I don’t have much to add, most of the really good ones have been covered, BlackStar,Mos Def,Jedi Mind Tricks.
Here are a couple that I enjoy that I havn’t seen mentioned yet:
Kool Keith
Bionic Jive (really good rock/metal/rap group, deep lyrics and great music)
[quote]cram2012 wrote:
PGA200X wrote:
proxy wrote:
Who could forget the old guys like Tribe, Gangstarr, Common and PETE ROCK?!
Commom is EXTREMELY underrated.
Pete Rock showed up at a club I was DJing at but we couldnt get him to drop a few freestyles. That would have blown the roof off of the building.
how long have you dj’ed for? are you into the scratching?
to name a few more classics
-DITC
-J live
-Big L
-dialated peoples
-atmosphere (ryhme sayers entertainment)
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I could scratch at home. Almost all of the clubs I Dj’d at had pathetic table stablizers. One was so bad that I would have a friend hold the table while I mixed.
I did it for 5 or 6 years straight. Its been 4 years since I touched tables. I no longer own any. I still have all of my vinyl though. I dont think I will ever part with it. I’m going to get tabels in the future when I have more time on my hands though.
I made one CD towards the end of my Dj’ing in clubs year. Here are the blends I did.
http://homepage.mac.com/WebObjects/FileSharing.woa/wa/default?user=pga200x&templatefn=FileSharing1.html&xmlfn=TKDocument.1.xml&sitefn=RootSite.xml&aff=consumer&cty=US?=en
[quote]malonetd wrote:
PGA200X wrote:
And Outkast is also underrated. Sure they may be out there a bit with some of their stage acts and video but the songs the make are simply outstanding. And Andre is a phenominal actor too boot!
I don’t think they’re necessarily underrated. They are one of the few hip hop groups to have a diamond selling album. (Biggie’s Life After Death may be the only other one. I’d have to check.)
I haven’t had a chance to hear the Idlewild album yet, but I really hope it doesn’t suck. It almost seems like they just threw this one together to “prove” they hadn’t broken up. Or maybe people are expecting too much and it amazingly dificult to follow a string of five great albums put out.[/quote]
I know their sales are ridiculous but that still doesnt represent how great their music is. It transcends many age groups. Shit my mom bops heavily to them when she’s driving and she’s in her 60’s+. Its funny watching a 60+ year old lady bopping and wilding out to The Way You Move.
Yung Joc
Slim Thug
Mike Jones, Paul Wall, Cham (before they became big)
50 cent (got his boot leg cd before he went with interscope)
Notorious B.I.G.
Tony Yayo
Spider Loc
Rick Ross
Li’l Jon
Bone Crusher
Tech N9ne
And Ron Artest…Just messing.
Let me start by saying this.
I have seen Hip hop since close to its infancy.
I saw Grand master Melle Mel live @ a small spot in NYC back in '81 when my uncle snuck me in.
I used to tape Rap attack on fri nites on Hot 97.
I saw Jazzy jeff lose a dj battle to Spinderella.
I saw Steady B, and Cash money and Marvelous.
Today’s Hip Hop, is not! Hip hop was an artistic expression. What artistic merit does 50 cent have? or DMX, or the game?
These guys are selling records. They are selling negative images of black folk to the world.
They are the modern day minstrel shows.
puff daddy is sweet
First of all, these are some excellent artists that you have mentioned.
I’d encourage you all to take a peek at Looptroop. They are swedish.
Here is their homepage. http://www.looptroop.nu/
There you can listen to samples of most of their music.
run dmc
the fat boys
doug e fresh
UTFO
[quote]emdawgz1 wrote:
Let me start by saying this.
I have seen Hip hop since close to its infancy.
I saw Grand master Melle Mel live @ a small spot in NYC back in '81 when my uncle snuck me in.
I used to tape Rap attack on fri nites on Hot 97.
I saw Jazzy jeff lose a dj battle to Spinderella.
I saw Steady B, and Cash money and Marvelous.
Today’s Hip Hop, is not! Hip hop was an artistic expression. What artistic merit does 50 cent have? or DMX, or the game?
These guys are selling records. They are selling negative images of black folk to the world.
They are the modern day minstrel shows.[/quote]
I too hate the ‘too cool for school (and law)’ attitude of some artists’ songs.
But hey, underground shit doesn’t make girls shake their asses, so it’s a toss up.
Therefore, I listen to both underground and mainstream.
[quote]emdawgz1 wrote:
They are selling negative images of black folk to the world.[/quote]
Bullshit. If someone thinks that the world of hip-hop reflects the black population they’re morons. Its not the music’s fault, its people’s stupidity thats the fault for not taking the time to learn about someones culture. Shit, in public I see more white people nowadays trying to be gangsta then black people.
Shit, I forgot Will Smith! Forget about some of his newer poppy crap. Summertime is an epic summer song. Of his later stuff So Fresh, although its a collabo, is BANANAS!
The one and only, LL Cool J.
The last emperor
journalist
wordsworth
Nas
Biggie
people under the stairs
pharcyde
sage francis
eyedea
jeru the damaja
gangstarr
eric b and rakim
asheru
blackstar
Devin the dude
ghetto boys
az
pete rock
dj jazzy jeff
smiff’n’wessun
mobb deep
those are the few who pop in my head when asked. There are a few more out there that I’m diggin’, but it was a long night.
[quote]PGA200X wrote:
cram2012 wrote:
PGA200X wrote:
proxy wrote:
Who could forget the old guys like Tribe, Gangstarr, Common and PETE ROCK?!
Commom is EXTREMELY underrated.
Pete Rock showed up at a club I was DJing at but we couldnt get him to drop a few freestyles. That would have blown the roof off of the building.
how long have you dj’ed for? are you into the scratching?
to name a few more classics
-DITC
-J live
-Big L
-dialated peoples
-atmosphere (ryhme sayers entertainment)
I could scratch at home. Almost all of the clubs I Dj’d at had pathetic table stablizers. One was so bad that I would have a friend hold the table while I mixed.
I did it for 5 or 6 years straight. Its been 4 years since I touched tables. I no longer own any. I still have all of my vinyl though. I dont think I will ever part with it. I’m going to get tabels in the future when I have more time on my hands though.
I made one CD towards the end of my Dj’ing in clubs year. Here are the blends I did.
http://homepage.mac.com/WebObjects/FileSharing.woa/wa/default?user=pga200x&templatefn=FileSharing1.html&xmlfn=TKDocument.1.xml&sitefn=RootSite.xml&aff=consumer&cty=US?=en[/quote]
right on thanks for the link.
I mainly scratch and produce at my home. I have an MPC 100 and everything runs through my computer. I used to play gigs for a couple local clubs, but mainly hibernate in the “lab” these days. I hear ya about the vinyl, you spend so much time and $ collecting it would be hard to part with. I hope you get some tables in the future.
I know I am queer for having a myspace page but I have posted some of my tracks if you want to check them out. Its mostly scratch composition.
[quote]PGA200X wrote:
emdawgz1 wrote:
They are selling negative images of black folk to the world.
Bullshit. If someone thinks that the world of hip-hop reflects the black population they’re morons. Its not the music’s fault, its people’s stupidity thats the fault for not taking the time to learn about someones culture. Shit, in public I see more white people nowadays trying to be gangsta then black people.[/quote]
Truth.
to comment on the commercialization of Hip Hop or Hip POP!
its the consumers fault for the latest trend, record execs are going to promote what sells plain and simple. I personally feel that alot of MTV acts are not musically talented, musicians ect. They are selling images and lifestyles, not quality music.
The real artistry and timeless music takes time and thought to develop and its satisfaction is felt for decades after the release “Tribe called Quest” comes to mind, Masta ACe…ect.
Just realize what your purchasing, from the artists point of view, was intended to be disposable, not a timeless piece of art.