[quote]Apoklyps wrote:
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
[quote]Apoklyps wrote:
That seems harsh.
While it pisses me off that the rest of us normal folk have to pay for it, he probably has it hard enough already, even if it is self-inflicted. You see the same lack of sympathy for addicts for the same reason, when really it’s a health concern we should be trying to treat, not something we should point and sneer at. At least he wants to finally start trying (though I won’t believe it until I see it) because I can see how tempting it would be once you got to that kind of weight to say, “fuck it, I don’t care anymore” and let everything go to hell.
I think a lot of this is a failure of the medical system. We’re not aggressive enough in dealing with obesity. We still have this naive idea that people can be trusted to take care of themselves and eat and exercise right. Because that strategy is clearly working. It’s not like we’re surrounded by fucking whales or anything.[/quote]
You are suggesting the government force people to exercise?
And no, the only failure is the guy eating a “pile” of ham sandwiches in the morning.[/quote]
LOL sounds like such a nice idea, if only they could enforce it.
In Canada, we have a public health care system. There are some good things about it, and some not so good. There is definitely a lot of abuse of the system resulting in incredible amounts of wasted money. What I’m saying is in such a system, the health care system should have the right to refuse treatment to people who don’t even give a fuck about their health and don’t try in the slightest to do something about it. Unless they’re willing to pay for it.
TBH, I used to consider myself somewhat of a liberal, but the more I see of public health care, the more disillusioned I get.[/quote]
So, basically, people should pay for themselves. And if you are a person that does the hard things like working out to keep yourself healthy, it isn’t fair to have to pay for fat lazy people…?
It doesn’t sound like you are for socialized medicine at all. You are describing a free market.