Father Disciplines His Son For Acting Up In School

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[quote]imhungry wrote:
Goddamn I love Popeyes.[/quote]

Can I get an amen.

Mashed taters with their gravy is also out of this world. [/quote]

Would you guys like honorary memberships to replace Rock? LOL[/quote]

Hey my wife has the ass of a black woman for sure. I am down.

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I forgot she’s a Latina. You’re halfway there, anyway.
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Sweet. Isnt the Latina the step between going all black and never go back?[/quote]

LMAO. Yeah. I guess it’s the white man’s reversal of the Latina halfway point between black women and white women for black men. [/quote]

Man in a few hundred years we will all be light brown.

[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
The video sickened me. But I guess most of you know that from the Hot Sauce Mom thread. I have nothing to say here that will not lead to an argument with someone here so fuck it.

Well, maybe not so fast. As I’ve said elsewhere, and I mean it, I’m not here to be your friend.

Before you tough guys nominate this ignorant motherfucker for father of the year, why the fuck is this child living with his grandma and coming to dad’s to play video games (“don’t you come here and play video games and we have fun?”) and otherwise get his ass beat? I cook 3 motherfucking meals a day for my little guy, do homework together, wake him, put him to sleep, make sure he showers at night, brushes his teeth every morning and night, laundry, drive him to school, teach him manners and morals, hugs, kisses, more hugs, more I love yous., etc etc etc (just a partial list) and this ignorant motherfucker plays video games and whips ass, and then it’s back to grandma’s house and some of you ignorant-ass motherfuckers are here clapping this dumb bastard on.

For all you would-be “parents of the year” that support this shit, I’ll let you peruse pertinent passages of NJ’s statute on abuse. It shouldn’t be much different than that of other States, unless of course you live in the fucking Amazon where maybe you can take tie the lil disrespectful bastard to a tree until a panther comes along - that will scare him and teach him right? Cheer this ignorant motherfucker if you must, but mimic him and you’ll probably get a visit from Social Services:

9:6-1. ABUSE, ABANDONMENT, CRUELTY AND NEGLECT OF CHILD; WHAT CONSTITUTES

Abuse of a child shall consist in any of the following acts: (d) the habitual use by the parent or by a person having the custody and control of a child, in the hearing of such child, of profane, indecent or obscene language;

Cruelty to a child shall consist in any of the following acts: (a) inflicting unnecessarily severe corporal punishment upon a child; (b) inflicting upon a child unnecessary suffering or pain, either mental or physical; (c) habitually tormenting, vexing or afflicting a child; (d) any willful act of omission or commission whereby unnecessary pain and suffering, whether mental or physical, is caused or permitted to be inflicted on a child; (e) or exposing a child to unnecessary hardship, fatigue or mental or physical strains that may tend to injure the health or physical or moral well-being of such child.


Let’s see here…

Profane language. Check
Severe corporal punishment. Check
Inflicting unnecessary suffering…either mental or physical. Check
exposing a child to unnecessary hardship, fatigue, or mental or physical strains. Check

And PS, did someone here actually think that this dumb, ignorant motherfucker taped this bullshit, but only went around the corner to “pretend” to use his belt?

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Edit: Nevermind, thread derailment, successful.

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]lewhitehurst wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]lewhitehurst wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]lewhitehurst wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]imhungry wrote:
Goddamn I love Popeyes.[/quote]

Can I get an amen.

Mashed taters with their gravy is also out of this world. [/quote]

Would you guys like honorary memberships to replace Rock? LOL[/quote]

Hey my wife has the ass of a black woman for sure. I am down.

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I forgot she’s a Latina. You’re halfway there, anyway.
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Sweet. Isnt the Latina the step between going all black and never go back?[/quote]

LMAO. Yeah. I guess it’s the white man’s reversal of the Latina halfway point between black women and white women for black men. [/quote]

Man in a few hundred years we will all be light brown. [/quote]

It doesn’t take that long to cook humans

Revocation of privelleges is a much better form punishment IMO.

The problem with issuing physical punishments is: A) It’s likely going to be experienced by the child as violence (which will quite likely to lead to fear & resentment, as opposed to respect) & b) The manner with which such punishments are dispensed with will likely be in an agressive, perhaps, even vindictive fashion (especially if previous lower-level ass whallopings have not yet had the desired effect).

I’m also pretty certain, if I was kid again & ANY adult had laid a finger on me, I would have almost certainly have hit them back. Adults are not punished through physical means, therefore, hitting kids is teaching them a rather ridiculous double standard.

Making a child earn their basic privelleges back through good behaviour is a better way IMO.

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I’m kinda glad they did it. Evil fucking topic, needed lols

I never understood the stereotype of fried chicken and watermelon . Every white kid I knew growing up loved watermelon and who doesn’t love good fried chicken?

[quote]tom63 wrote:
I never understood the stereotype of fried chicken and watermelon . Every white kid I knew growing up loved watermelon and who doesn’t love good fried chicken?[/quote]

EDIT : There’s actually many links in google that link to slavery and that black people were fed both, lots of fried chicken and watermelon.

I have seventeen year old twins. They’re great kids, boy and girl . They might have been swatted on the butt seven times each by me, last time around age seven.
And the reason for every incidence was direct defiance. Not s mistake . Not spilling milk, but deliberate Fu I’m fling what I please. I’m guessing they talked to me in a cocky tone 2-3 times in my life. The last time my son was 11 and we were at a Penn State game tailgate . He mouthed off in that way s kid does to push the limits but trying to get away with it

I grabbed him by his t shirt and picked him up by one hand ( he was 85 lbs only) and told him with a smile on my face that he better stop because he’s pissing me off. He chuckled and said he was sorry and the day went on. No biggie.

[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:

[quote]Rodimus Black wrote:
If we are debating spankings on the merits of the video, then it’s a moot point, as the dad is a fucking tool, and should have no access to the child. You don’t record shit like that. And you DAMN sure don’t post it to fucking Youtube!!!

Now, as far as spanking kids goes, I’m a believer in the saying, “there is a time and place for such things.” I didn’t get beat for every wrong thing I did as a child. When I did something egregiously wrong, I got the belt/shoe/wooden spoon/toy track/hand. I despised the hand the most, as my mother is shockingly heavy-handed! lol. But, I learned two things from my spankings. Either I didn’t do the bad thing again, or I got really good at not getting caught. I will raise my kids in the same manner, only, I will show them more love than my mother or father ever showed me (not much from the mother, NONE from the father.)

As for the swearing…what-the-fuck-ever. It’s going to happen. We are human. We get emotional. One can only try to temper the use.[/quote]

This is a reasonable response. And yes, there is a time and place. As the full time single parent of a 5 year old, my parenting is evolving, even though I have two older boys (but I was “part time” weekend dad then - big difference). I decided that in this house, that a quick swat or two on the behind is in order for DEFIANCE.

Meaning, I have told him something, maybe more than once, and he is just defying me. Defiance is an offense I cannot tolerate and will not negotiate. Other than expecting him to do something when told, defiance as potential safety issues attached to it. So I agree with you.

And I know it’s old school to have gotten hit with objects. I’m not even really too troubled by that - it’s just the way it was. But we, as parents, as society, evolve. I can name lots of things that were done 40 years ago that aren’t okay now. Think of our evolution as a society from the environment, to woman’s rights, to civil rights, etc. and so forth. I don’t really believe you’re going to pick up the Hot Wheels track and whoop your child when the time comes.

As for the love part, that’s key.

As for swearing. Fuck lol I swear. I try not to. I swore around my older boys, but they understood that they were not permitted to swear. I figured being true, rather than a hypocrite was the way to go. It worked. I never got a call from school reporting “Vinnie called me a motherfucker”. But he was talking to that kid that way I’d talk to a grown ass man that owed me money. Seriously. “Oh, I loaned you money, we had an arrangement, you aint payin me but your ass here playing fucking poker with MY money right? So it’s just fuck me right?”. He’s talking to a little boy, not some dude on the street. But yes, we are human, children will check your patience…again and again and again. They will make you have moments that are NOT your best. But ya know what? This dude was in COMPLETE control, just like that Hot Sauce Mom. And that troubles me.

It’s methodical. It’s practiced. It’s ROUTINE. The kid KMOWS THE SCRIPT…and that shit aint cool and it’s not okay. This is not a “man” that lost his cool. [/quote]

I’d like to join the Black Justice League.

I mean, you guys need a couple of token not-black guys.

[quote]LarryDavid wrote:
I’d like to join the Black Justice League.

I mean, you guys need a couple of token not-black guys. [/quote]

Hmmmm, he does have a point.

I mean, Black lightening didn’t SHOOT “black” lightening. He was also brown.

OK…The Black Justice League is having try outs for:

“The Great White Hope”

“White Noise”

and

“White Knight”

Please apply within…but give us 15 extra minutes to get there.

BG- if you somehow were to witness this IRL, would you say anything? Or do anything?

Am I the only one who used to get caned at school for misbehaving and not doing homework?

I dunno, it was a great motivator for most of the kids.

[quote]RSGZ wrote:
Am I the only one who used to get caned at school for misbehaving and not doing homework?

I dunno, it was a great motivator for most of the kids.[/quote]

I got whippings…and I wasn’t even a bad kid. It was the way my parents were raised. I will clearly physically discipline my children differently, but to deny that a spanking is ever needed is just retarded.

I will also say I see many kids lately whose parents seem to avoid any and all serious discipline. This is not creating great human beings. It is creating very selfish ones who think they can affront any and all authority.

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]LarryDavid wrote:
I’d like to join the Black Justice League.

I mean, you guys need a couple of token not-black guys. [/quote]

Hmmmm, he does have a point.

I mean, Black lightening didn’t SHOOT “black” lightening. He was also brown.
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Well, I am a brown guy…so it looks I could apply for at least one of the positions :D. Unless it’s already been filled.

I didn’t watch the vid so I can’t comment there, but I got spanked as a kid, and it didn’t really affect me at all. They weren’t frequent at all, but just frequent enough that I knew my parents had that as a last resort.

That said, from my own observation, I don’t really think there was any correlation between whether a child was good or whether he or she was spanked a lot at home. I guess there was nothing really wrong with spanking your kids, or not spanking them, a lot of other factors played into the way the child turned out.

As for morally, there is nothing wrong with it IMO. One could make the argument that it makes no sense to teach your kids not to be violent while still spanking them, but IMO your not supposed to teach your kids that fighting is wrong, you’re supposed to teach them that it’s stupid aside from being the VERY last resort in case scenarios.

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]RSGZ wrote:
Am I the only one who used to get caned at school for misbehaving and not doing homework?

I dunno, it was a great motivator for most of the kids.[/quote]

I got whippings…and I wasn’t even a bad kid. It was the way my parents were raised. I will clearly physically discipline my children differently, but to deny that a spanking is ever needed is just retarded.

I will also say I see many kids lately whose parents seem to avoid any and all serious discipline. This is not creating great human beings. It is creating very selfish ones who think they can affront any and all authority.[/quote]

Exactly.

Looks at the general population of kids here in the UK. They have little to no respect for anyone, and if you so much as look as your kid in a mean way, someone will stick their nose into it.

I’ve been spanked 2 maybe 3 times by my dad as a kid. I’m sure he was raised the same way and I know from experience that many kids who grew up this way in SA, “learn their place”, so to speak. I think all the generations of kids who were raised in the late 90s and on are no where near as disciplined, in general.

In South Africa, Afrikaans people are notorious for being hard on their kids, but it’s what turns boys into men in the long run.

[quote]LarryDavid wrote:
As for morally, there is nothing wrong with it IMO. One could make the argument that it makes no sense to teach your kids not to be violent while still spanking them, but IMO your not supposed to teach your kids that fighting is wrong, you’re supposed to teach them that it’s stupid aside from being the VERY last resort in case scenarios. [/quote]

And this.

[quote]Cartman8675 wrote:
BG- if you somehow were to witness this IRL, would you say anything? Or do anything? [/quote]

Good question. I’m loathe to violate what is my guiding principal that I highly respect and seek for others to respect: MIND YOUR OWN FUCKING BUSINESS.

However, there is a caveat to MYOFB and that is when someone innocent is being harmed…I think as civilized HUMANS we owe each other an obligation to protect the weak and I do include weak as relatively weak as compared to others more fortunate, and to the obviously weak like the infirm, children the elderly.

I’d likely call the police if I witnessed the whole thing start to finish but we both know this is a “thought exercise” of sorts b/c you’d be very unlikely to witness this, in context, from start to finish. If I witnessed the kid getting worked out, I’m ignoring it - none of my business. If I witness a severe whooping with a belt, I’m saying something and I do realize that saying something could be to my personal peril.

It’s amusing to watch people constantly fall into correlation/causation traps, especially when discussing their own personal history. “I got whooped and I’m okay”. “No discipline = no respect”. Etc. and so forth. As Larry pointed out, human development is a bit more complex ladies and gents :slight_smile:

The topic here is, was this episode of punishment reasonable? And is this pattern of conduct okay? Yes, it’s a pattern with this father.

  1. Larrydavid, whos your avatar?

  2. I have no problem with how he disciplened this kid. When I was a kid wearing baggy clothes was cool…I used to act up and one of the first things I had taken away from me were my “cool” clothes. I can see why he shaved his head because it’s the cool thing to be all fresh these days. The spankings…seriously who cares…it’s not like the 2 adults beat the kid with their fists.

The only problem I have with this is that he posted the video on the web, I just think that parts kinda weird…I don’t have kids but I couldn’t ever see me posting a video of me disciplining them…

my 2 cents