Father Disciplines His Son For Acting Up In School

[quote]Loudog75 wrote:

[quote]eeu743 wrote:

[quote]imhungry wrote:

[quote]eeu743 wrote:
I’m guessing he hit him?

No, that is not the way to raise children. If it gets to the point that you are having to hit them for them to respect you, it means you have failed as a parent up to that point. Handling situations appropriately, with consistency, prevents children from turning in to rotten brats.[/quote]

You must be a very good parent to your children, then.

You DO have kids, right?[/quote]

No, I just work with them and spend about as much time around them and personally responsible for them as most parents do, 5 days a week, and even longer on occasional weekends.[/quote]

I think this makes you qualified to deal with other people’s children - not mine.

Edit: What I mean to say is that you deal with children in a social/public environment. In private settings the same punishments don’t work. For example: a time out in a social environment provides a visual/audible example of the fun that’s being missed (see the other kids having the fun you are not). At home it doesn’t have the same effect.[/quote]

No, I deal with them (mostly one) in a private setting, for the most part. You can just call it babysitting, because that’s mostly what it is, but my responsibilities and the things I deal with are a little atypical.

[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:

[quote]Loudog75 wrote:
Nothing wrong with a good ass whooping.

Hell even the bad language. I really don’t understand why people get so upset that an F bomb was dropped. I mean do you seriously expect that your child has never/ will never hear the word. Or what, are you as a parent supposed to be this upstanding and unblemished model of humanity? lmfao

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It’s how the word was used. Not that the word was used.

C’mon man, you know the difference. One was street talk the way you might talk to some dude on the street, the other is supposed to be parenting - you know, the way you talk to a CHILD.[/quote]

Yeah I get you - i’ve dropped more than a few Fbombs in my life but it was more because I was either very angry or B that I need to make sure I was Fucking understood and wasn’t playing because failure to follow directions would result in serious consequences. But hey, I live in a house with little kids and teenagers. Sometimes I’ve needed to talk in language my teens understood.

[quote]Loudog75 wrote:

[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:

[quote]Loudog75 wrote:
Nothing wrong with a good ass whooping.

Hell even the bad language. I really don’t understand why people get so upset that an F bomb was dropped. I mean do you seriously expect that your child has never/ will never hear the word. Or what, are you as a parent supposed to be this upstanding and unblemished model of humanity? lmfao

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It’s how the word was used. Not that the word was used.

C’mon man, you know the difference. One was street talk the way you might talk to some dude on the street, the other is supposed to be parenting - you know, the way you talk to a CHILD.[/quote]

Yeah I get you - i’ve dropped more than a few Fbombs in my life but it was more because I was either very angry or B that I need to make sure I was Fucking understood and wasn’t playing because failure to follow directions would result in serious consequences. But hey, I live in a house with little kids and teenagers. Sometimes I’ve needed to talk in language my teens understood.[/quote]

Teenagers? I trust me, we’ve “talked” lol.

[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:

[quote]Rodimus Black wrote:
If we are debating spankings on the merits of the video, then it’s a moot point, as the dad is a fucking tool, and should have no access to the child. You don’t record shit like that. And you DAMN sure don’t post it to fucking Youtube!!!

Now, as far as spanking kids goes, I’m a believer in the saying, “there is a time and place for such things.” I didn’t get beat for every wrong thing I did as a child. When I did something egregiously wrong, I got the belt/shoe/wooden spoon/toy track/hand. I despised the hand the most, as my mother is shockingly heavy-handed! lol. But, I learned two things from my spankings. Either I didn’t do the bad thing again, or I got really good at not getting caught. I will raise my kids in the same manner, only, I will show them more love than my mother or father ever showed me (not much from the mother, NONE from the father.)

As for the swearing…what-the-fuck-ever. It’s going to happen. We are human. We get emotional. One can only try to temper the use.[/quote]

This is a reasonable response. And yes, there is a time and place. As the full time single parent of a 5 year old, my parenting is evolving, even though I have two older boys (but I was “part time” weekend dad then - big difference). I decided that in this house, that a quick swat or two on the behind is in order for DEFIANCE.

Meaning, I have told him something, maybe more than once, and he is just defying me. Defiance is an offense I cannot tolerate and will not negotiate. Other than expecting him to do something when told, defiance as potential safety issues attached to it. So I agree with you.

And I know it’s old school to have gotten hit with objects. I’m not even really too troubled by that - it’s just the way it was. But we, as parents, as society, evolve. I can name lots of things that were done 40 years ago that aren’t okay now. Think of our evolution as a society from the environment, to woman’s rights, to civil rights, etc. and so forth. I don’t really believe you’re going to pick up the Hot Wheels track and whoop your child when the time comes.

As for the love part, that’s key.

As for swearing. Fuck lol I swear. I try not to. I swore around my older boys, but they understood that they were not permitted to swear. I figured being true, rather than a hypocrite was the way to go. It worked. I never got a call from school reporting “Vinnie called me a motherfucker”. But he was talking to that kid that way I’d talk to a grown ass man that owed me money. Seriously. “Oh, I loaned you money, we had an arrangement, you aint payin me but your ass here playing fucking poker with MY money right? So it’s just fuck me right?”. He’s talking to a little boy, not some dude on the street. But yes, we are human, children will check your patience…again and again and again. They will make you have moments that are NOT your best. But ya know what? This dude was in COMPLETE control, just like that Hot Sauce Mom. And that troubles me.

It’s methodical. It’s practiced. It’s ROUTINE. The kid KMOWS THE SCRIPT…and that shit aint cool and it’s not okay. This is not a “man” that lost his cool. [/quote]

Much more loquacious than I am (hope I spelled that right. No time for spellcheck), but agreed.

This is not discipline.

A kid stuffing around in school does not equate to that whole saying “fuck me” thing he does. Discipline equals a lesson. There is no logic in the guys argument. So what the fuck is he teaching that kid?

The whole multiple punishment thing? Shave head/eyebrows. What does demeaning the kid achieve? Insult to injury.

Has anyone else noticed that the only thing the kid says is “Yes sir”? If you are trying to modify a childs behavior don’t you think the kid should be somewhat intellectually engaged.

Now how many time do you have to hit a kid with a belt? Give him five strokes and leave it at that. Why keep beating him? And then tell him to shut up. You just hit a little kid with a belt a couple of dozen times of course he’ll cry.

I’m just listing shit that strikes me as wrong here. I am not a parent and am basically theorising. And I think if I ever do become one I’ll be a god aweful bastard like this guy because thats how I lose my temper.

All the beatings like this never got me to behave, they just made me more bloody minded. Point being this video is categorically wrong. This sort of thing perpetuates itself.

My 2 cents. Not a parent, hopefully never will be.

  1. Having kids doesn’t make you an authority on having kids, just means you’ve had unprotected sex. As with most things, there are good ones and bad ones. (Before anyone asks, yes I have 1 kid.) So everyone is as entitled to an opinion as anyone else, as long as it is a reasonable one.

  2. I disagree with physical discipline as a) it shows you’re not in control, if you were you wouldn’t have let it get that far and b) teaches kids they need to hit people to get their own way, and c) i’ve seen people go stupidly too far with it in the past. I think other things such as removal of privilidges (sp?) is better, i.e. tv, games, etc.

  3. Post it on youtube, no f*cking way!

  4. I don’t think exercise should be used as a punishment, not because it’s too harsh, but simply because those two things will then be connected in the child’s mind and will avoid doing it off their own back later in life; I want my daughte to love exercise, know that it’s not just tedious and painful but fun and rewarding, be able to whoop all the lads in her class at anything, and beg me to take her to the gym with me.

Raising your children the right way is the most important job we will ever have because it has such a huge impact; it’s a responsibility i am proud of and take very seriously (and am sometimes terrified of)!

Yawn, another corporal punishment thread?

[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:

[quote]Rodimus Black wrote:
If we are debating spankings on the merits of the video, then it’s a moot point, as the dad is a fucking tool, and should have no access to the child. You don’t record shit like that. And you DAMN sure don’t post it to fucking Youtube!!!

Now, as far as spanking kids goes, I’m a believer in the saying, “there is a time and place for such things.” I didn’t get beat for every wrong thing I did as a child. When I did something egregiously wrong, I got the belt/shoe/wooden spoon/toy track/hand. I despised the hand the most, as my mother is shockingly heavy-handed! lol. But, I learned two things from my spankings. Either I didn’t do the bad thing again, or I got really good at not getting caught. I will raise my kids in the same manner, only, I will show them more love than my mother or father ever showed me (not much from the mother, NONE from the father.)

As for the swearing…what-the-fuck-ever. It’s going to happen. We are human. We get emotional. One can only try to temper the use.[/quote]

This is a reasonable response. And yes, there is a time and place. As the full time single parent of a 5 year old, my parenting is evolving, even though I have two older boys (but I was “part time” weekend dad then - big difference). I decided that in this house, that a quick swat or two on the behind is in order for DEFIANCE.

Meaning, I have told him something, maybe more than once, and he is just defying me. Defiance is an offense I cannot tolerate and will not negotiate. Other than expecting him to do something when told, defiance as potential safety issues attached to it. So I agree with you.

And I know it’s old school to have gotten hit with objects. I’m not even really too troubled by that - it’s just the way it was. But we, as parents, as society, evolve. I can name lots of things that were done 40 years ago that aren’t okay now. Think of our evolution as a society from the environment, to woman’s rights, to civil rights, etc. and so forth. I don’t really believe you’re going to pick up the Hot Wheels track and whoop your child when the time comes.

As for the love part, that’s key.

As for swearing. Fuck lol I swear. I try not to. I swore around my older boys, but they understood that they were not permitted to swear. I figured being true, rather than a hypocrite was the way to go. It worked. I never got a call from school reporting “Vinnie called me a motherfucker”. But he was talking to that kid that way I’d talk to a grown ass man that owed me money. Seriously. “Oh, I loaned you money, we had an arrangement, you aint payin me but your ass here playing fucking poker with MY money right? So it’s just fuck me right?”. He’s talking to a little boy, not some dude on the street. But yes, we are human, children will check your patience…again and again and again. They will make you have moments that are NOT your best. But ya know what? This dude was in COMPLETE control, just like that Hot Sauce Mom. And that troubles me.

It’s methodical. It’s practiced. It’s ROUTINE. The kid KMOWS THE SCRIPT…and that shit aint cool and it’s not okay. This is not a “man” that lost his cool. [/quote]

Always enjoy reading your posts on this subject, BG.

[quote]Gym Savvy wrote:
it shows you’re not in control,

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He was in complete control, that’s what bothers me more. He wasn’t having a “bad moment” that all kids can make us have. It was routine.

[quote]Gym Savvy wrote:

it’s a responsibility i am proud of and take very seriously (and am sometimes terrified of)![/quote]

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X2, especially about the terrified part! “We” started school last week. I feel the weight of the world on my shoulders to get this right!

[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:

[quote]Gym Savvy wrote:
it shows you’re not in control,

[/quote]

He was in complete control, that’s what bothers me more. He wasn’t having a “bad moment” that all kids can make us have. It was routine.

[quote]Gym Savvy wrote:

it’s a responsibility i am proud of and take very seriously (and am sometimes terrified of)![/quote]

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X2, especially about the terrified part! “We” started school last week. I feel the weight of the world on my shoulders to get this right![/quote]

They’re durable. Do what you feel is right and it will all work out. If it doesn’t, hope they get a job with good medical and can get counseling. lol

[quote]Loudog75 wrote:

[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:

[quote]Gym Savvy wrote:
it shows you’re not in control,

[/quote]

He was in complete control, that’s what bothers me more. He wasn’t having a “bad moment” that all kids can make us have. It was routine.

[quote]Gym Savvy wrote:

it’s a responsibility i am proud of and take very seriously (and am sometimes terrified of)![/quote]

[/quote]

X2, especially about the terrified part! “We” started school last week. I feel the weight of the world on my shoulders to get this right![/quote]

They’re durable. Do what you feel is right and it will all work out. If it doesn’t, hope they get a job with good medical and can get counseling. lol[/quote]

lmfao

I can picture the first session, him reclining on the couch…

“my dad was, shall we say…‘different’ from other dads in the neighborhood”…

LOL

Hey great another one of these threads.

[quote]Derek542 wrote:
Hey great another one of these threads.

[/quote]

Shut up before I beat you! >:( ( That is my angry face)

[quote]lewhitehurst wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:
Hey great another one of these threads.

[/quote]

Shut up before I beat you! >:( ( That is my angry face)[/quote]

Hahahahahaahahahahahaahahahaha

thanks Lew I needed a chuckle.

[quote]lewhitehurst wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:
Hey great another one of these threads.

[/quote]

Shut up before I beat you! >:( ( That is my angry face)[/quote]

Well…black AND angry.

That’s original.

By the way, BJL meetings are REQUIRED. You’ve missed the last two and dues are in. We last discussed how we would all have one day that we smile each week.

I picked Friday.

[quote]Professor X wrote:
By the way, BJL meetings are REQUIRED. You’ve missed the last two and dues are in. We last discussed how we would all have one day that we smile each week.[/quote]

Does this include photographs, or would that compromise your identities?

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]lewhitehurst wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:
Hey great another one of these threads.

[/quote]

Shut up before I beat you! >:( ( That is my angry face)[/quote]

Well…black AND angry.

That’s original.

By the way, BJL meetings are REQUIRED. You’ve missed the last two and dues are in. We last discussed how we would all have one day that we smile each week.

I picked Friday.
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Well, I think today is Friday so you should have ended that post with a smiley face.

Oh, and I couldn’t tell that Lew was black from his avatar photo (I’m silly like that sometimes.) But your comment made me click on his page to look at the photos he has uploaded. I was not disappointed. :slight_smile:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]lewhitehurst wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:
Hey great another one of these threads.

[/quote]

Shut up before I beat you! >:( ( That is my angry face)[/quote]

Well…black AND angry.

That’s original.

By the way, BJL meetings are REQUIRED. You’ve missed the last two and dues are in. We last discussed how we would all have one day that we smile each week.

I picked Friday.
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Dues? I bought the red Kool Aid, the menthol cigarettes AND the fried chicken the last two meetings and NONE of you Negroes put anything on it.

Friday? Isn’t that also Bang a White Woman Day? Ah, never mind, I guess the smiling makes since then… :smiley:

[quote]Christine wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]lewhitehurst wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:
Hey great another one of these threads.

[/quote]

Shut up before I beat you! >:( ( That is my angry face)[/quote]

Well…black AND angry.

That’s original.

By the way, BJL meetings are REQUIRED. You’ve missed the last two and dues are in. We last discussed how we would all have one day that we smile each week.

I picked Friday.
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Well, I think today is Friday so you should have ended that post with a smiley face.

Oh, and I couldn’t tell that Lew was black from his avatar photo (I’m silly like that sometimes.) But your comment made me click on his page to look at the photos he has uploaded. I was not disappointed. :)[/quote]

I’m a redheaded Scotsman with freckles and a bushy, bushy beard. Think Groundskeeper Willie on the Simpsons.

I’m glad you weren’t disappointed or at least didn’t point and laugh… but then if you did, how the hell would I know? This is the internet after all. :slight_smile:

[quote]Edevus wrote:

[quote]imhungry wrote:

[quote]eeu743 wrote:
I’m guessing he hit him?

No, that is not the way to raise children. If it gets to the point that you are having to hit them for them to respect you, it means you have failed as a parent up to that point. Handling situations appropriately, with consistency, prevents children from turning in to rotten brats.[/quote]

You must be a very good parent to your children, then.

You DO have kids, right?[/quote]

I see lots of young couples or single moms doing some nasty/stupid stuff. I guess it’s fine because they have children and they are totally qualified.

I don’t have, but I still can give my opinion on the matter. I wouldn’t do that to my kid. Not all at same time at least. Cut his hair and spank him a few times? No, considering his age. Early age spanks are fine in my opinion, later on it’s not. Those outdoor exercices? Sounds fine. Swearing? No. Some other “acts” he did? Never either.

Record everything and upload it to internet? Never never never.

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Did you read the post where I said I was just busting balls?