Father Disciplines His Son For Acting Up In School

[quote]eeu743 wrote:

[quote]imhungry wrote:

[quote]eeu743 wrote:
I’m guessing he hit him?

No, that is not the way to raise children. If it gets to the point that you are having to hit them for them to respect you, it means you have failed as a parent up to that point. Handling situations appropriately, with consistency, prevents children from turning in to rotten brats.[/quote]

You must be a very good parent to your children, then.

You DO have kids, right?[/quote]

No, I just work with them and spend about as much time around them and personally responsible for them as most parents do, 5 days a week, and even longer on occasional weekends.[/quote]

Oh, so you’re as qualified as a parent, then. Gotcha.

Babysitters must be qualified, also.

Actually, since I was a child once and hung out with children my own age, I’m qualified to be a great parent.

[quote]imhungry wrote:

[quote]eeu743 wrote:

[quote]imhungry wrote:

[quote]eeu743 wrote:
I’m guessing he hit him?

No, that is not the way to raise children. If it gets to the point that you are having to hit them for them to respect you, it means you have failed as a parent up to that point. Handling situations appropriately, with consistency, prevents children from turning in to rotten brats.[/quote]

You must be a very good parent to your children, then.

You DO have kids, right?[/quote]

No, I just work with them and spend about as much time around them and personally responsible for them as most parents do, 5 days a week, and even longer on occasional weekends.[/quote]

Oh, so you’re as qualified as a parent, then. Gotcha.

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Um, when did I claim to be qualified as a parent? Do you really believe that only people with children of their own know anything about how to handle kids? That’s ridiculous.

Having a kid doesn’t mean shit. There are plenty of people who have no idea what they’re doing and have no business having children. If you’re even reasonably intelligent, you know that. Making a baby is easy, and you don’t suddenly become more knowledgeable than you were before. I know what does and doesn’t work, from personal experience. You think that’s somehow invalid until I use it with my own kid? A child that isn’t my own doesn’t count as a child? lol.

[quote]eeu743 wrote:

[quote]imhungry wrote:

[quote]eeu743 wrote:

[quote]imhungry wrote:

[quote]eeu743 wrote:
I’m guessing he hit him?

No, that is not the way to raise children. If it gets to the point that you are having to hit them for them to respect you, it means you have failed as a parent up to that point. Handling situations appropriately, with consistency, prevents children from turning in to rotten brats.[/quote]

You must be a very good parent to your children, then.

You DO have kids, right?[/quote]

No, I just work with them and spend about as much time around them and personally responsible for them as most parents do, 5 days a week, and even longer on occasional weekends.[/quote]

Oh, so you’re as qualified as a parent, then. Gotcha.

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Um, when did I claim to be qualified as a parent? Do you really believe that only people with children of their own know anything about how to handle kids? That’s ridiculous.

Having a kid doesn’t mean shit. There are plenty of people who have no idea what they’re doing and have no business having children. If you’re even reasonably intelligent, you know that. Making a baby is easy, and you don’t suddenly become more knowledgeable than you were before. I know what does and doesn’t work, from personal experience. You think that’s somehow invalid until I use it with my own kid? A child that isn’t my own doesn’t count as a child? lol.[/quote]

I wouldn’t know, since i’m not a parent :slight_smile:

Oh, I edited my post, obviously. I was on a roll.

Anyway, i’m just busting your tighty-whitey balls, my friend.

The video sickened me. But I guess most of you know that from the Hot Sauce Mom thread. I have nothing to say here that will not lead to an argument with someone here so fuck it.

Well, maybe not so fast. As I’ve said elsewhere, and I mean it, I’m not here to be your friend.

Before you tough guys nominate this ignorant motherfucker for father of the year, why the fuck is this child living with his grandma and coming to dad’s to play video games (“don’t you come here and play video games and we have fun?”) and otherwise get his ass beat? I cook 3 motherfucking meals a day for my little guy, do homework together, wake him, put him to sleep, make sure he showers at night, brushes his teeth every morning and night, laundry, drive him to school, teach him manners and morals, hugs, kisses, more hugs, more I love yous., etc etc etc (just a partial list) and this ignorant motherfucker plays video games and whips ass, and then it’s back to grandma’s house and some of you ignorant-ass motherfuckers are here clapping this dumb bastard on.

For all you would-be “parents of the year” that support this shit, I’ll let you peruse pertinent passages of NJ’s statute on abuse. It shouldn’t be much different than that of other States, unless of course you live in the fucking Amazon where maybe you can take tie the lil disrespectful bastard to a tree until a panther comes along - that will scare him and teach him right? Cheer this ignorant motherfucker if you must, but mimic him and you’ll probably get a visit from Social Services:

9:6-1. ABUSE, ABANDONMENT, CRUELTY AND NEGLECT OF CHILD; WHAT CONSTITUTES

Abuse of a child shall consist in any of the following acts: (d) the habitual use by the parent or by a person having the custody and control of a child, in the hearing of such child, of profane, indecent or obscene language;

Cruelty to a child shall consist in any of the following acts: (a) inflicting unnecessarily severe corporal punishment upon a child; (b) inflicting upon a child unnecessary suffering or pain, either mental or physical; (c) habitually tormenting, vexing or afflicting a child; (d) any willful act of omission or commission whereby unnecessary pain and suffering, whether mental or physical, is caused or permitted to be inflicted on a child; (e) or exposing a child to unnecessary hardship, fatigue or mental or physical strains that may tend to injure the health or physical or moral well-being of such child.


Let’s see here…

Profane language. Check
Severe corporal punishment. Check
Inflicting unnecessary suffering…either mental or physical. Check
exposing a child to unnecessary hardship, fatigue, or mental or physical strains. Check

And PS, did someone here actually think that this dumb, ignorant motherfucker taped this bullshit, but only went around the corner to “pretend” to use his belt?

The black Dwight Hansen.
Lovely.

I used to get the shit beaten out of me on a regular basis by each of my mom’s three husbands until I left home when I was 16. I ended up in prison and spent considerable time “re-wiring” myself to undo the damage.

An occasional dispassionate spanking is one thing, but like the hot sauce mom, the mental and emotional EMASCULATION is not cool. Not even a little bit. I’m not saying it’s not survivable - many of us “survived” our upbringing and have thrived afterwords… But was it really necessary? Could alternative ways of behavior modification have been more effective?

I know, I know “MY dad used to spank ME and I’m perfectly normal” and “these kids today just need a good asswhuppin”. Just like you used to “walk ten miles to school”, “up hill both ways” and “wrapped your feet in newspaper cuz you couldn’t afford shoes”, right? LOL I get it. We didn’t have it as good as our children to today. But doesn’t that mean we have to adjust to the new data that’s out there? Isn’t it our responsibility as parents to give our children the VERY BEST even if it means making a little bit of an extra effort and thinking outside of the box sometimes?

FTR, I AM a parent and I’ve spanked my eldest son on THREE occasions in his life, and I remember each one. He is now 14, in the national honor society, on his way to becoming an eagle scout, plays several instruments, won the chess tournament at his school, was the captain of his soccer team for years and just decided to play football this year and is a starter (as a freshman), etc… I could keep going, but I think the results speak for themselves.

As for my youngest who just turned 4 this week, I’ve only spanked him ONCE in his life. Spanking has it’s place as a swift, severe punishment for an over the top unacceptable behavior that needs to be nipped in the bud. That’s it, IMHO. For 99% of situations, it’s inappropriate.

It is certainly not OK beat your kid on YouTube! WTF?!

[quote]imhungry wrote:

[quote]eeu743 wrote:
I’m guessing he hit him?

No, that is not the way to raise children. If it gets to the point that you are having to hit them for them to respect you, it means you have failed as a parent up to that point. Handling situations appropriately, with consistency, prevents children from turning in to rotten brats.[/quote]

You must be a very good parent to your children, then.

You DO have kids, right?[/quote]

I see lots of young couples or single moms doing some nasty/stupid stuff. I guess it’s fine because they have children and they are totally qualified.

I don’t have, but I still can give my opinion on the matter. I wouldn’t do that to my kid. Not all at same time at least. Cut his hair and spank him a few times? No, considering his age. Early age spanks are fine in my opinion, later on it’s not. Those outdoor exercices? Sounds fine. Swearing? No. Some other “acts” he did? Never either.

Record everything and upload it to internet? Never never never.

If we are debating spankings on the merits of the video, then it’s a moot point, as the dad is a fucking tool, and should have no access to the child. You don’t record shit like that. And you DAMN sure don’t post it to fucking Youtube!!!

Now, as far as spanking kids goes, I’m a believer in the saying, “there is a time and place for such things.” I didn’t get beat for every wrong thing I did as a child. When I did something egregiously wrong, I got the belt/shoe/wooden spoon/toy track/hand. I despised the hand the most, as my mother is shockingly heavy-handed! lol. But, I learned two things from my spankings. Either I didn’t do the bad thing again, or I got really good at not getting caught. I will raise my kids in the same manner, only, I will show them more love than my mother or father ever showed me (not much from the mother, NONE from the father.)

As for the swearing…what-the-fuck-ever. It’s going to happen. We are human. We get emotional. One can only try to temper the use.

I love when people chime in and act like they know what it would take to be a parent when they don’t have kids themselves. Anyway, I firmly believe if you.do it right one will only have to spank their kid once or twice.

[quote]StevenF wrote:
I love when people chime in and act like they know what it would take to be a parent when they don’t have kids themselves. Anyway, I firmly believe if you.do it right one will only have to spank their kid once or twice. [/quote]

And I love when people think that for having kids they are already know everything.

The father did nothing wrong. I got my ass whooped more than once. I now understand why it happened. This kid should be lucky his father cares for him enough to give him that ass whopping.

How many kids do not grow up with a father in the house. No father figure and no discipline.

If the police get involved it will be a very sad day in America.

[quote]xxrob5xx wrote:
The father did nothing wrong. I got my ass whooped more than once. I now understand why it happened. This kid should be lucky his father cares for him enough to give him that ass whopping.

How many kids do not grow up with a father in the house. No father figure and no discipline.

If the police get involved it will be a very sad day in America.[/quote]

Again, it’s one thing to get your ass whooped, but to record it and post it on Youtube? Nah, son!!!

Nothing wrong with a good ass whooping.

Hell even the bad language. I really don’t understand why people get so upset that an F bomb was dropped. I mean do you seriously expect that your child has never/ will never hear the word. Or what, are you as a parent supposed to be this upstanding and unblemished model of humanity? lmfao

[quote]Loudog75 wrote:
Nothing wrong with a good ass whooping.

Hell even the bad language. I really don’t understand why people get so upset that an F bomb was dropped. I mean do you seriously expect that your child has never/ will never hear the word. Or what, are you as a parent supposed to be this upstanding and unblemished model of humanity? lmfao

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I believe that I am a model of humanity…

[quote]eeu743 wrote:

[quote]imhungry wrote:

[quote]eeu743 wrote:
I’m guessing he hit him?

No, that is not the way to raise children. If it gets to the point that you are having to hit them for them to respect you, it means you have failed as a parent up to that point. Handling situations appropriately, with consistency, prevents children from turning in to rotten brats.[/quote]

You must be a very good parent to your children, then.

You DO have kids, right?[/quote]

No, I just work with them and spend about as much time around them and personally responsible for them as most parents do, 5 days a week, and even longer on occasional weekends.[/quote]

I think this makes you qualified to deal with other people’s children - not mine.

Edit: What I mean to say is that you deal with children in a social/public environment. In private settings the same punishments don’t work. For example: a time out in a social environment provides a visual/audible example of the fun that’s being missed (see the other kids having the fun you are not). At home it doesn’t have the same effect.

[quote]Rodimus Black wrote:

[quote]Loudog75 wrote:
Nothing wrong with a good ass whooping.

Hell even the bad language. I really don’t understand why people get so upset that an F bomb was dropped. I mean do you seriously expect that your child has never/ will never hear the word. Or what, are you as a parent supposed to be this upstanding and unblemished model of humanity? lmfao

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I believe that I am a model of humanity…[/quote]

Don’t worry RB, I think we all suffer from some delusion or another. But if you believe it, I support it.

[quote]Loudog75 wrote:

[quote]Rodimus Black wrote:

[quote]Loudog75 wrote:
Nothing wrong with a good ass whooping.

Hell even the bad language. I really don’t understand why people get so upset that an F bomb was dropped. I mean do you seriously expect that your child has never/ will never hear the word. Or what, are you as a parent supposed to be this upstanding and unblemished model of humanity? lmfao

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I believe that I am a model of humanity…[/quote]

Don’t worry RB, I think we all suffer from some delusion or another. But if you believe it, I support it.[/quote]

Word!!!

[quote]Rodimus Black wrote:
If we are debating spankings on the merits of the video, then it’s a moot point, as the dad is a fucking tool, and should have no access to the child. You don’t record shit like that. And you DAMN sure don’t post it to fucking Youtube!!!

Now, as far as spanking kids goes, I’m a believer in the saying, “there is a time and place for such things.” I didn’t get beat for every wrong thing I did as a child. When I did something egregiously wrong, I got the belt/shoe/wooden spoon/toy track/hand. I despised the hand the most, as my mother is shockingly heavy-handed! lol. But, I learned two things from my spankings. Either I didn’t do the bad thing again, or I got really good at not getting caught. I will raise my kids in the same manner, only, I will show them more love than my mother or father ever showed me (not much from the mother, NONE from the father.)

As for the swearing…what-the-fuck-ever. It’s going to happen. We are human. We get emotional. One can only try to temper the use.[/quote]

This is a reasonable response. And yes, there is a time and place. As the full time single parent of a 5 year old, my parenting is evolving, even though I have two older boys (but I was “part time” weekend dad then - big difference). I decided that in this house, that a quick swat or two on the behind is in order for DEFIANCE.

Meaning, I have told him something, maybe more than once, and he is just defying me. Defiance is an offense I cannot tolerate and will not negotiate. Other than expecting him to do something when told, defiance as potential safety issues attached to it. So I agree with you.

And I know it’s old school to have gotten hit with objects. I’m not even really too troubled by that - it’s just the way it was. But we, as parents, as society, evolve. I can name lots of things that were done 40 years ago that aren’t okay now. Think of our evolution as a society from the environment, to woman’s rights, to civil rights, etc. and so forth. I don’t really believe you’re going to pick up the Hot Wheels track and whoop your child when the time comes.

As for the love part, that’s key.

As for swearing. Fuck lol I swear. I try not to. I swore around my older boys, but they understood that they were not permitted to swear. I figured being true, rather than a hypocrite was the way to go. It worked. I never got a call from school reporting “Vinnie called me a motherfucker”. But he was talking to that kid that way I’d talk to a grown ass man that owed me money. Seriously. “Oh, I loaned you money, we had an arrangement, you aint payin me but your ass here playing fucking poker with MY money right? So it’s just fuck me right?”. He’s talking to a little boy, not some dude on the street. But yes, we are human, children will check your patience…again and again and again. They will make you have moments that are NOT your best. But ya know what? This dude was in COMPLETE control, just like that Hot Sauce Mom. And that troubles me.

It’s methodical. It’s practiced. It’s ROUTINE. The kid KMOWS THE SCRIPT…and that shit aint cool and it’s not okay. This is not a “man” that lost his cool.

[quote]xxrob5xx wrote:
The father did nothing wrong. I got my ass whooped more than once. I now understand why it happened. This kid should be lucky his father cares for him enough to give him that ass whopping.

How many kids do not grow up with a father in the house. No father figure and no discipline.

If the police get involved it will be a very sad day in America.[/quote]

Yup. He’s a great dad. The kid comes over to play video games, have fun, and get beat. Otherwise, he lives with grandma.

Motherfucking father of the year right there.

[quote]Loudog75 wrote:
Nothing wrong with a good ass whooping.

Hell even the bad language. I really don’t understand why people get so upset that an F bomb was dropped. I mean do you seriously expect that your child has never/ will never hear the word. Or what, are you as a parent supposed to be this upstanding and unblemished model of humanity? lmfao

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It’s how the word was used. Not that the word was used.

C’mon man, you know the difference. One was street talk the way you might talk to some dude on the street, the other is supposed to be parenting - you know, the way you talk to a CHILD.