Fat Acceptance

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[quote]jehovasfitness wrote:
Perhaps my question for you is, would you not agree that water/green tea would be a better option for a beverage.

That a salad with meat would be a better option than a sandwich and 4 slices of deli turkey.

That plain yogurt with their own added berries would be better than flavored?[/quote]

No.

I would agree that people are more likely to change once they learn to eat for a PURPOSE and stop randomly labeling shit as “bad” and “good”.

I drank green tea for years. My reasons? It was lower in calories and had less sugar. Why did I want those things? Because I had a goal of losing some body fat and not drinking something all day that would just give me cavities and make that harder.

MY REASON is why I ate that way. It wasn’t because someone labeled it “bad” or “good” for me.

Get it?

Why would plain yogurt be the better option for all people?

Oh wait…you just mean the fat ones…because we will somehow teach the country what not to eat but only speak to one side of the room.

Teach goals and teach lifestyle…but quit trying to put labels on all food like that because I just may want that rootbeer one day and it won’t kill me.

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I’m with you. I was referring to they think it’s good for them when their goal is weight loss. Just like you dieting down you chose green tea for less calories, the same as I would encourage someone wanting to lose weight to ditch calorie containing beverages.

If someone came to me and was like, I just want to improve my 40 time, I’m not going to be discussing much nutrition at all.

But, if someone comes to me and they want to become healthier, lose weight, prevent illness later in life, you bet I’m going to discuss what some better choices are.

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after all, this is a fat people’s thread :wink:

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Don’t hate fat people. They help keep medical premiums down. It’s fucks that live forever that put a strain on Medicare.

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[quote]test driven wrote:
Don’t hate fat people. They help keep medical premiums down. It’s fucks that live forever that put a strain on Medicare. [/quote]

You’re kidding right?

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I think Jehovas has the right idea. Yes the population is educated, but educated wrongly. There is no one “special diet” that you will find in a womens gossip magazine or there is no super shake that you have for breakfast and lunch that is the ultimate secret to fat loss etc etc. I have seen the girls at work on diets having a “low fat” muffin for lunch. Low fat fucking muffin?

Proffersor X; your complicating things with your political correctness. Yes, different people will have different dietary requirements etc etc, but lets not confuse the people even more. KISS(keep it simple stupid).

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^ no

PX nailed it when people need to have a purpose to eat according to their needs. Eating is a social act so people will he bombarded with unsolicited eating behaviors, verbalized and enacted. The individual needs to know what they need not whatever the latest dietary guidance spewed from some talking head. Athletes will have different dietary needs then couch jockeys. Some foods are less tolerated for some than others. Bodies are too individual to expect any grand narrative of dietary scripture to establish what should be on every dinner plate across the US. General understanding of food can be handled within elementary school.

The other issue, of course, is access. Some people have greater dietary choice given greater mobility and disposable income. Consider Southcentral LA. Obesity is a problem. So is the fact there are not any grocery stores and most of the resturants are fast food. Preach all you want about personal responsiblity and good dietary education the fact of the matter is actual choice is not there.

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[quote]test driven wrote:
Don’t hate fat people. They help keep medical premiums down. It’s fucks that live forever that put a strain on Medicare. [/quote]
Fuck no they don’t. Obesity related diseases are the only single factor that raise insurance premiums across entire risk pools all by themselves.

Screw nationalized health care, make obesity a felony. It’s basically a ponzi scheme.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]jehovasfitness wrote:
Perhaps my question for you is, would you not agree that water/green tea would be a better option for a beverage.

That a salad with meat would be a better option than a sandwich and 4 slices of deli turkey.

That plain yogurt with their own added berries would be better than flavored?[/quote]

No.

I would agree that people are more likely to change once they learn to eat for a PURPOSE and stop randomly labeling shit as “bad” and “good”.

I drank green tea for years. My reasons? It was lower in calories and had less sugar. Why did I want those things? Because I had a goal of losing some body fat and not drinking something all day that would just give me cavities and make that harder.

MY REASON is why I ate that way. It wasn’t because someone labeled it “bad” or “good” for me.

Get it?

Why would plain yogurt be the better option for all people?

Oh wait…you just mean the fat ones…because we will somehow teach the country what not to eat but only speak to one side of the room.

Teach goals and teach lifestyle…but quit trying to put labels on all food like that because I just may want that rootbeer one day and it won’t kill me.[/quote]

I know exactly what you’re talking about man, and I agree 100%. I never really cared about my diet until I started lifting, and it was to maximize my gains (by diet I basically mean “more food” although I do try to eat nutritiously as well).

I hate how people put these stark labels on certain foods like “X Food > Y Food always.” It doesn’t work like that. Are sweet potatoes automatically superior to white potatoes because they have more beta-carotene? If you mean IN THE CONTEXT OF BETA-CAROTENE, then sure, but what if I want to eat more iron or whatever is in white ones? And those low cal low fat foods? Oh good…what if I’m a football player and I NEED calories? Yeah. Not doing it for me.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]jehovasfitness wrote:
Perhaps my question for you is, would you not agree that water/green tea would be a better option for a beverage.

That a salad with meat would be a better option than a sandwich and 4 slices of deli turkey.

That plain yogurt with their own added berries would be better than flavored?[/quote]

No.

I would agree that people are more likely to change once they learn to eat for a PURPOSE and stop randomly labeling shit as “bad” and “good”.

I drank green tea for years. My reasons? It was lower in calories and had less sugar. Why did I want those things? Because I had a goal of losing some body fat and not drinking something all day that would just give me cavities and make that harder.

MY REASON is why I ate that way. It wasn’t because someone labeled it “bad” or “good” for me.

Get it?

Why would plain yogurt be the better option for all people?

Oh wait…you just mean the fat ones…because we will somehow teach the country what not to eat but only speak to one side of the room.

Teach goals and teach lifestyle…but quit trying to put labels on all food like that because I just may want that rootbeer one day and it won’t kill me.[/quote]

“Oh wait…you just mean the fat ones…because we will somehow teach the country what not to eat but only speak to one side of the room.”

Yes. Exactly. We should teach that “Its generally not good to eat this, and if you’re fat you REALLY shouldn’t eat this.”

People like you just feed the problem because fat people, in debating what to eat, will think “Oh, that big muscular guy said no food is bad or good, so I shouldn’t think of this Big Mac as bad…”

Yes, X. Some foods are bad. Let me explain some simple things to you:

Bad food = food that has a net negative effect on your body

Bad food =/= food that instantly kills you.

So your argument that “Drinking that root beer won’t kill me!” doesn’t make a case for that root beer is good for you.

Get it?

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So, yes, some people, in some circumstances, can eat “bad” food and see little or no harmful effects.

This does not mean the food is “good” for them. This does not mean there were not better options. This just means the effect of the bad food was mitigated.

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[quote]CappedAndPlanIt wrote:
So, yes, some people, in some circumstances, can eat “bad” food and see little or no harmful effects.

This does not mean the food is “good” for them. This does not mean there were not better options. This just means the effect of the bad food was mitigated.[/quote]

LOL. Yeah, realizing what you do and who you are have much to do with how you should eat would simply set the world on its head. We should just keep doing what we have been…coming up with a random “Food Pyramid” and telling EVERYONE this is how they should always eat.

Independent thought could lead to an uprising.

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This has been interesting, but I have decided people really don’t want to take any effort into thinking about what they eat.

I have fat friends, and they make no excuses (at least around me) for their fatness. I tell them the truth. They don’t want to do what it takes.

We still get along just fine.

I really do think there is an information overload as well.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]CappedAndPlanIt wrote:
So, yes, some people, in some circumstances, can eat “bad” food and see little or no harmful effects.

This does not mean the food is “good” for them. This does not mean there were not better options. This just means the effect of the bad food was mitigated.[/quote]

LOL. Yeah, realizing what you do and who you are have much to do with how you should eat would simply set the world on its head. We should just keep doing what we have been…coming up with a random “Food Pyramid” and telling EVERYONE this is how they should always eat.

Independent thought could lead to an uprising.[/quote]

Yup. I support the food pyramid and “telling EVERYONE this is how they should always eat”, also, I hate independent thought.

Logic must be a very attractive woman, for all the obscene things you seem to want to do to it.

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I didn’t say you support THE Food pyramid. I am implying what you are suggesting is no different than coming up with another random ‘Food Pyramid’ and telling everyone they should eat this way.

That IS what you are suggesting if we now label “juice” as bad for you (as one poster above noted).

You keep trying to throw that “good”/“bad” label around.

I lift weights and eat the way I do because I want a certain outcome. If that outcome was not a reality at all, I would NOT be eating the way I do.

Bodybuilders above all others would understand the notion behind teaching people REASONS and telling them what they do all day has a lot to with how they should eat.

You do that and Mc Donalds is no longer the enemy…the fat ass who never works out is and we stop blaming everything else but the individual.

Maybe some of us want our Cinnamon Toast Crunch every now and then without someone preaching it’s BAD.

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More education would help a lot I think. You can’t just tell people this food is bad for you or this is good for you. They need to understand WHY it’s bad and the affect certain ingredients have on the body. Schools need to try to keep up with the new data that comes out. I was in high school 10-12 years ago and they were still teaching a ton of stupid stuff that wasn’t helpful.

Wasn’t it just 15-20 years ago food companies were doing the fat free food craze? They thought if food was fat free that you wouldn’t get fat, which actually ended up helping people get even fatter.

I know there would still be these people that would be proud to be fat and not care, but if you get children at a young age and give them good information then at least they have a good chance when they’re adults. They can change if they want to and won’t be so freaking confused by all this crap out there. I bet if you ask a lot of fat people how they would lose their weight, most wouldn’t have an idea how to or would have a dumb plan from all the crap they’ve seen on TV.

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Maybe we need to educate people about education?

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[quote]jehovasfitness wrote:

[quote]test driven wrote:
Don’t hate fat people. They help keep medical premiums down. It’s fucks that live forever that put a strain on Medicare. [/quote]

You’re kidding right?[/quote]

Lol!!!

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[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:

[quote]test driven wrote:
Don’t hate fat people. They help keep medical premiums down. It’s fucks that live forever that put a strain on Medicare. [/quote]
Fuck no they don’t. Obesity related diseases are the only single factor that raise insurance premiums across entire risk pools all by themselves.

Screw nationalized health care, make obesity a felony. It’s basically a ponzi scheme.[/quote]

Would u agree that a person who lives to 95 will, cumulatively, access healthcare more than a diabetes patient who dies at 42?

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I love the McRib.