[quote]tedro wrote:
lixy wrote:
tedro wrote:
Tiller also had charges against him for performing abortions on minors and failing to notify authorities of the statutory rape that assuredly occured to cause these pregnancies.
Assuredly? You do realize that male fecundity isn’t a switch that gets activated at 18, right?
You do realize that the Kansas law is written in such a way that if two minors under the age of 14 have sex, both have committed rape, don’t you? And that if both are under 16, it is the lesser agravated indecent liberties?
It makes no difference what age the male in the situation is. A pregnant girl under the age of 16 that presents a pregnancy is evidence that a sexual crime has been committed.
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It probably is evidence for some BS laws and not of a crime-
Letiing governments define crimes? What´s next, an income tax?
Violence does not help the anti-abortion cause…I think this dr. was a piece of shit, if not lower, but I am not his judge and jury and do not condone killing him.
This is not the way to end abortion.
Besides the media will use to to prove that all pro-life people are gun-toting, blood thirsty murders themselves.
Everybody’s day of reckoning is coming, we don’t have to help it along.
I’m not shedding a tear for this guy. And for all of you who say, trust the rule of law. Yea, that works if the system isn’t corrupted to all hell. Sometimes when things are being fixed, you gotta take some shortcuts. I personally would rather have seen someone take out someone who for all intents and purposes is “above the law”. When dealing with those types of people, it is sometimes good for the rest of them to know that while they may be able to stay out of prison, staying out of the way of a bullet could prove to be a little harder to do.
I mean if this guy bought his way out of jail time on some technicallities, then he may in fact be above the law.
[quote]pat wrote:
Violence does not help the anti-abortion cause…I think this dr. was a piece of shit, if not lower, but I am not his judge and jury and do not condone killing him.
This is not the way to end abortion.
Besides the media will use to to prove that all pro-life people are gun-toting, blood thirsty murders themselves.
Everybody’s day of reckoning is coming, we don’t have to help it along.[/quote]
How many late-term abortions will the former dr. be performing today?
amazingly enough those who decry his murder claim the rule of law as rationale for punishing the one who killed him . . . there is no right/wrong action - there is only legal/illegal actions . . . thus they can justify the murder of millions of infants because it is not against the law regardless of whether the act is morally right/wrong . . . so in the end - all they have is the rule of law to base their morality upon . . .
So - it’s “wrong” to kill a mature fetus, but “right” to kill a growing fetus . . .
Wouldn’t it be more logically consistent to always be wrong to kill a fetus regardless of the stage of growth it is at?
[quote]IrishSteel wrote:
amazingly enough those who decry his murder claim the rule of law as rationale for punishing the one who killed him . . . there is no right/wrong action - there is only legal/illegal actions . . . thus they can justify the murder of millions of infants because it is not against the law regardless of whether the act is morally right/wrong . . . so in the end - all they have is the rule of law to base their morality upon . . .
So - it’s “wrong” to kill a mature fetus, but “right” to kill a growing fetus . . .
Wouldn’t it be more logically consistent to always be wrong to kill a fetus regardless of the stage of growth it is at?[/quote]
Yes, Yes it would. Anytime there is some doubt, you should err on the side of not killing a human. Especially an innocent one. I hope they catch the guy and he defends himself by saying he was acting in the defense of those who cannot defend themselves, and I hope he wins. Not sure why he did it in a church, but whatever.
I had not heard about the man before, american abortion politics is not that close to my heart. The article says Tiller was 67, so the killing was kind of unnecessary even when you condemn abortion, though. Unless you think he had to be punished by fellow citizens as a matter of principle.
[quote]pat wrote:
Violence does not help the anti-abortion cause…I think this dr. was a piece of shit, if not lower, but I am not his judge and jury and do not condone killing him.
This is not the way to end abortion.
Besides the media will use to to prove that all pro-life people are gun-toting, blood thirsty murders themselves.
Everybody’s day of reckoning is coming, we don’t have to help it along.[/quote]
Heh, Some days I wish they did view us all like that. Can we get one day where people actually think about the concequences of thier actions. Also I don’t think it’s much like judjing when his actions prove he is vermin, it’s really nothing more than extiminating. You don’t have a moral dillema about putting your garbage out to the curb do you?