[quote]therajraj wrote:
http://vimeo.com/109573972[/quote]
Classy. All the stats quoted in that video are utter bullshit. I’m familiar with all the studies the alluding to. I’ll post some links about it later if I can find them. The claim of 1 in 5 being sexually assaulted is not even claimed by the authors of the study. I remember reading about this woman who was looking into it for her thesis and so she tracked down the authors of the study.
The authors of the study said that their work was completely misrepresented. Questions such as “Has anyone ever tried to kiss you when you didn’t want them to?” was counted as a “sexual assault” by feminists to completely distort the results.
Another example is a study that the UN still regularly points to about “sexual slavery.” They claim there are “hundreds of thousands” of sex slaves in the US. Again, people looked into the methodology and what they found is that the study actually claimed that 1 in 5 runaway children are “at risk” of being forced into prostitution.
From this claim they then counted the number of homeless children, divided the number by five and from that extrapolated that there are “hundreds of thousands of sex slaves.” Stats from the Justice Department tell the real story - there are approximately 100-200 girls under the age of 16 who are involved in prostitution. Not “hundreds of thousands” of child sex slaves but rather a couple of hundred underage prostitutes.
This radical ideological subversion of the social sciences is extremely widespread. I’ll start a thread on it in PWI when I get some time.
f is for facepalm
The “gender pay gap” is another utter fantasy. There’s a good book exposing that one - I’ll try to look it up. Not only is it untrue, there’s actually evidence to show that in some industries women actually earn more. There’s also the fact that there’s already federal law in place making it illegal to pay women less for the same work. Any woman anywhere in the States who is being paid less for the same work can sue their employer - the Justice Department will prosecute on her behalf. All she needs is the evidence. Even if the Justice Department doesn’t take on her case for some reason there are literally hundreds of civil rights groups that would eagerly take up her case for free.
This is the author I was referring to:
She utterly demolishes the bullshit “gender pay gap” lies of the FemiNazis.
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
[quote]therajraj wrote:
http://vimeo.com/109573972[/quote]
The authors of the study said that their work was completely misrepresented. Questions such as “Has anyone ever tried to kiss you when you didn’t want them to?” was counted as a “sexual assault” by feminists to completely distort the results.
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We recently had this discussion. I was telling TheMister that I just couldn’t believe those numbers, and that I’d never been sexually assaulted or purposefully harmed or hurt by a man. Ever.
Then we looked up the definition of sexual assault on Wikipedia. Yeah. If you count a non-consensual kiss or sexual touch, as in someone putting their hand on your booty or breast without you wanting them to at the time? Pretty much every woman has been “sexually assaulted” many times, probably before she graduated from high school. I felt like a victim after reading it! 
You could dismiss these inflated numbers as just silliness, if it weren’t that they effect public policy. There is a willingness by some to criminalize fairly innocent behavior.
[quote]Powerpuff wrote:
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
[quote]therajraj wrote:
http://vimeo.com/109573972[/quote]
The authors of the study said that their work was completely misrepresented. Questions such as “Has anyone ever tried to kiss you when you didn’t want them to?” was counted as a “sexual assault” by feminists to completely distort the results.
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We recently had this discussion. I was telling TheMister that I just couldn’t believe those numbers, and that I’d never been sexually assaulted or purposefully harmed or hurt by a man. Ever.
Then we looked up the definition of sexual assault on Wikipedia. Yeah. If you count a non-consensual kiss or sexual touch, as in someone putting their hand on your booty or breast without you wanting them to at the time? Pretty much every woman has been “sexually assaulted” many times, probably before she graduated from high school. I felt like a victim after reading it!
You could dismiss these inflated numbers as just silliness, if it weren’t that they effect public policy. There is a willingness by some to criminalize fairly innocent behavior.
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There’s also the fact that it stigmatises men. When the media goes around reporting that there is a rape/sexual assault epidemic on campuses the make students are treated like potential and actual sex offenders. So you get these mandatory classes to teach boys not to rape women. It’s pretty offensive to be treated like some kind of violent animal that doesn’t know right from wrong. 98% of guys would never dream raping a woman yet they’re lectured about rape and violence against women and so on.
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
There’s also the fact that it stigmatises men. When the media goes around reporting that there is a rape/sexual assault epidemic on campuses the make students are treated like potential and actual sex offenders. So you get these mandatory classes to teach boys not to rape women. It’s pretty offensive to be treated like some kind of violent animal that doesn’t know right from wrong. 98% of guys would never dream raping a woman yet they’re lectured about rape and violence against women and so on.[/quote]
I remember that talk from my college orientation lol. They told us point blank “all of you are probably rapists already”.
[quote]Powerpuff wrote:
Then we looked up the definition of sexual assault on Wikipedia. Yeah. If you count a non-consensual kiss or sexual touch, as in someone putting their hand on your booty or breast without you wanting them to at the time? Pretty much every woman has been “sexually assaulted” many times, probably before she graduated from high school. I felt like a victim after reading it!
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I already knew that I had been “raped” but apparently I was “sexually assaulted” too.
Honestly, do you think you’d enjoy it if someone just suddenly fondled your balls or grabbed your ass? Maybe it was a gay man and you’re most decidedly straight? Maybe it was an ugly girl that you have no interest in whatsoever?
And even if it was a beautiful woman, I’d feel extremely violated and will probably punch/shove her out of sheer reflex.
As much as I dislike feminism, particularly the type talked about in this thread, I don’t quite understand why some men think it’s no big deal to touch women without consent.
[quote]csulli wrote:
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
There’s also the fact that it stigmatises men. When the media goes around reporting that there is a rape/sexual assault epidemic on campuses the make students are treated like potential and actual sex offenders. So you get these mandatory classes to teach boys not to rape women. It’s pretty offensive to be treated like some kind of violent animal that doesn’t know right from wrong. 98% of guys would never dream raping a woman yet they’re lectured about rape and violence against women and so on.[/quote]
I remember that talk from my college orientation lol. They told us point blank “all of you are probably rapists already”.[/quote]
I reckon women who are genuinely interested in addressing things like institutionalised misogyny and rape/sexual assault epidemics might do better to turn their attentions away from US college campuses and towards…oh, I don’t know, maybe somewhere in the Middle East for starters? Maybe somewhere like that. But that’s not going to happen because the radical feminists in the West have an ideological agenda that has nothing to do with genuine women’s rights.
[quote]magick wrote:
Honestly, do you think you’d enjoy it if someone just suddenly fondled your balls or grabbed your ass? Maybe it was a gay man and you’re most decidedly straight? Maybe it was an ugly girl that you have no interest in whatsoever?
And even if it was a beautiful woman, I’d feel extremely violated and will probably punch/shove her out of sheer reflex.
As much as I dislike feminism, particularly the type talked about in this thread, I don’t quite understand why some men think it’s no big deal to touch women without consent.[/quote]
First, because its no big deal, unless you go straight for the boobs with a woman you have never met, second, this standard would already be met if you give your GF a slap on the ass she was not expecting.
[quote]magick wrote:
I don’t quite understand why some men think it’s no big deal to touch women without consent.[/quote]
if you substitute “men” and “women” with “people”, your statement would be more objective and accurate.
I personally (and im sure many, many other guys on this site) have had my personal space violated by women…and men (no homo)…many times.
men just don’t have anything at all to gain from crying rape
[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:
[quote]magick wrote:
I don’t quite understand why some men think it’s no big deal to touch women without consent.[/quote]
if you substitute “men” and “women” with “people”, your statement would be more objective and accurate.
I personally (and im sure many, many other guys on this site) have had my personal space violated by women…and men (no homo)…many times.
men just don’t have anything at all to gain from crying rape[/quote]
Yeah, but, you know, women are pure and angelic beings and we men defile them with our filthy groping…
I mean, I woke up to what I would describe as a blowjob, and if I was female, insane and liked to be a victim, I would call that forced envelopment, sexual assault, possibly rape, denegrating and demeaning.
Since I am not, I call that a nice way to start a day.
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
[quote]Powerpuff wrote:
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
[quote]therajraj wrote:
http://vimeo.com/109573972[/quote]
The authors of the study said that their work was completely misrepresented. Questions such as “Has anyone ever tried to kiss you when you didn’t want them to?” was counted as a “sexual assault” by feminists to completely distort the results.
[/quote]
We recently had this discussion. I was telling TheMister that I just couldn’t believe those numbers, and that I’d never been sexually assaulted or purposefully harmed or hurt by a man. Ever.
Then we looked up the definition of sexual assault on Wikipedia. Yeah. If you count a non-consensual kiss or sexual touch, as in someone putting their hand on your booty or breast without you wanting them to at the time? Pretty much every woman has been “sexually assaulted” many times, probably before she graduated from high school. I felt like a victim after reading it!
You could dismiss these inflated numbers as just silliness, if it weren’t that they effect public policy. There is a willingness by some to criminalize fairly innocent behavior.
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There’s also the fact that it stigmatises men. When the media goes around reporting that there is a rape/sexual assault epidemic on campuses the make students are treated like potential and actual sex offenders. So you get these mandatory classes to teach boys not to rape women. It’s pretty offensive to be treated like some kind of violent animal that doesn’t know right from wrong. 98% of guys would never dream raping a woman yet they’re lectured about rape and violence against women and so on.[/quote]
The sexual assault and rape prevention programs on college campuses was what brought this topic up at our house.
About the “1 in 5 women” number for sexual assault, it’s amazing how these unscientific “stats” will get forever quoted and repeated, and find their way into college policies and brochures, and employee training seminars. Once some numbers are are out there, they never die. People who know nothing about the original study with quote them and publish them, because they have seen them quoted elsewhere.
It made me wonder what the criterion is for being a sex offender? When we lower the bar for “sexual assault” be interpreted as nearly anything, depending on one’s point of view about what is non-consensual or unwanted touch, it takes something away from the serious and violent instances, right?
Most retarded thing I’ve seen all day, which is impressive.
I’d say it was an effective video. It got you to post it on a site of mostly men. I can imagine there’s even more traffic on women’s sites and more people checking out their site and donating.
For irony’s sake, I hope they make “this is what a feminist looks like” wife beaters.
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
Stats from the Justice Department tell the real story - there are approximately 100-200 girls under the age of 16 who are involved in prostitution. Not “hundreds of thousands” of child sex slaves but rather a couple of hundred underage prostitutes.[/quote]
I have to call BS on this. Without even referring to a study or anything. Really? 100 female prostitutes under 16 in the entire US? Doesn’t really pass the sniff test. I’m not saying there are hundreds of thousands, but 100?
[quote]Powerpuff wrote:
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
[quote]Powerpuff wrote:
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
[quote]therajraj wrote:
http://vimeo.com/109573972[/quote]
The authors of the study said that their work was completely misrepresented. Questions such as “Has anyone ever tried to kiss you when you didn’t want them to?” was counted as a “sexual assault” by feminists to completely distort the results.
[/quote]
We recently had this discussion. I was telling TheMister that I just couldn’t believe those numbers, and that I’d never been sexually assaulted or purposefully harmed or hurt by a man. Ever.
Then we looked up the definition of sexual assault on Wikipedia. Yeah. If you count a non-consensual kiss or sexual touch, as in someone putting their hand on your booty or breast without you wanting them to at the time? Pretty much every woman has been “sexually assaulted” many times, probably before she graduated from high school. I felt like a victim after reading it!
You could dismiss these inflated numbers as just silliness, if it weren’t that they effect public policy. There is a willingness by some to criminalize fairly innocent behavior.
[/quote]
There’s also the fact that it stigmatises men. When the media goes around reporting that there is a rape/sexual assault epidemic on campuses the make students are treated like potential and actual sex offenders. So you get these mandatory classes to teach boys not to rape women. It’s pretty offensive to be treated like some kind of violent animal that doesn’t know right from wrong. 98% of guys would never dream raping a woman yet they’re lectured about rape and violence against women and so on.[/quote]
The sexual assault and rape prevention programs on college campuses was what brought this topic up at our house.
About the “1 in 5 women” number for sexual assault, it’s amazing how these unscientific “stats” will get forever quoted and repeated, and find their way into college policies and brochures, and employee training seminars. Once some numbers are are out there, they never die. People who know nothing about the original study with quote them and publish them, because they have seen them quoted elsewhere.
It made me wonder what the criterion is for being a sex offender? When we lower the bar for “sexual assault” be interpreted as nearly anything, depending on one’s point of view about what is non-consensual or unwanted touch, it takes something away from the serious and violent instances, right?
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Exactly. And it diverts resources and attention away from genuine rape/sexual assault. Instead of spending millions of dollars “educating” the 98% of normal people about rape/sexual assault they should be focusing on the actual known victims and perpetrators. When you see rape and potential rapists everywhere you lose sight of the actual target. You end up chasing shadows.