Hi,
I’m a competitive wrestler, who is about to start a cycle with the following goals in mind:
- explosive strength
- limit strength
- increased muscle mass
- subject to drug testing
any thoughts?
Hi,
I’m a competitive wrestler, who is about to start a cycle with the following goals in mind:
any thoughts?
I agree with you fully, but that was all I could get my hands on. I will have to make some adjustments for my pct, to compensate for the slower-acting enanthate.
thanks for your input.
LBM
if you can’t get prop, you might as well not use enanthat. hell, you have access to Winny, Anavar, and Andriol, which should give you decent results with that alone…something to think about.
Forgive my newbiness, but could he not frontload the test enanth. two weeks in advance and turn it into a five week cycle? If not why?
[quote]Orbitalboner wrote:
Forgive my newbiness, but could he not frontload the test enanth. two weeks in advance and turn it into a five week cycle? If not why?[/quote]
That’s possible, but you’re forgetting the extra two week fall of in blood levels end of cycle.
IMO this cycle is too complicated for your stated goals. Tren can replace at least two of the non-test subtstances in your cycle, and personally the results would be better. The only concern with tren would be recovery, but at 3 weeks that’s a non-issue.
[quote]Orbitalboner wrote:
Forgive my newbiness, but could he not frontload the test enanth. two weeks in advance and turn it into a five week cycle? If not why?[/quote]
He’d have test releasing for almost 2 weeks after hhis last injection, so he’d have to wait for pct and do more of it.
Hello Everyone.
I Am back in the Gym from a 12 yr layoff. I just want to get as strong as I possibly can. I have been hitting the gym very hard everyday and trainning always to failure and would go twice a day if I could. I just want to know what I could use to help with strength and I dont want to break the bank.
Anavar or winstrol is all I have known anyone to use. I have never used it but as far as that goes I dont even know where to obtain either .
Any help?
OUToftheBOX
Hey all,
I have listened to everyone’s advice and have made some revisions on my stack. Thanks to all that helped.
[quote]LittleBigMuscles wrote:
Hey all,
I have listened to everyone’s advice and have made some revisions on my stack, here’s what I’ve come up with so far. Constructive comments are welcome.
week 1:
200mg/week Testosterone Propionate
200mg/week Trenbolone Acetate
200mg/week Winstrol
140mg/week Anavar
week 2:
200mg/week Testosterone Propionate
200mg/week Trenbolone Acetate
200mg/week Winstrol
140mg/week Anavar
week 3:
500mg/week Methenolone Enanthate
200mg/week Winstrol
140mg/week Anavar
350mg/week Clomid
week 4:
350mg/week clomid
6 caps/day Alpha Male
3 caps/day ZMA
4 caps/day Carbolin 19
questions? comments?[/quote]
Good work integrating the comment and you’re own research; this cycle is starting to come together. I would suspect that this cycle might take some flack on this board (maybe I’m wrong), but I’ve seen very good results in others from similar cycles. Still a few questions though:
The use of “Methenolone Enanthate” week 3. Seems like you’re trying to use this here as a sort of taper or bridge. To my knowledge, enanthate has a half-life of ~5 days, so I’m not sure what kind of benefit you’ll get from running it for 1 week at that dosage. Personally I would do tren for 3 weeks and skip the methenolone.
Clomid usage. Have you considered replacing clomid with nolvadex? You can search for info regarding nolva vs. clomid on this board; nolva is generally considered superior. Also, I am a big proponent of running nolva/clomid the ENTIRE cycle. That’s personal preference though.
Week 4. I assume the protocol you have listed under “week 4” is not for 1 week only, but rather to be run continuously for a month or two, correct?
I’m curious about what others have to say as well.
Are you subject to drug testing? I assume you’re talking about amateur wrestling.
I am subject to ‘drug testing’. Therefore I’d rather not use the AAS.
If your tested for Wrestling in Ontario, your sample should go to the IOC lab in Montreal. If that is the case you can be sure they will find the tren. in your system for the next few months. Unless I’m missing something and Wrestling is different from other amateur sports.
why not just keep it simple?
weeks 1-3: prop @ 100 mg ED
tren @ 50 mg ED
var @ 40 mg ED
weeks 4-8: clomid, Carbolin 19, ZMA,
Alpha Male.