That’s what the doctors will decide, not me, but his manifesto hints megalomania.
I’m still reading it though.
[quote]Edevus wrote:
[quote]Schwarzfahrer wrote:
[quote]espenl wrote:
Classical psychopath, no empathy and very intelligent. His actions are hard to understand because you need a brain defect to think the way he does.
Every time I think of the massacre I get sick to my stomach.[/quote]
He’s not insane. He doesn’t have to be very intelligent at all.
And you don’t need a defect brain to understand.
That’s a terrible, terrible conclusion and perhaps the bigger tragedy here.
You could say it was wrong, disgusting or even outright evil. And I’m with you.
But we burn intellectual bridges every time we invoke the insanity card.
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He’s not insane?
“Regardless of the above cultural Marxist propaganda; I will always know that I am perhaps the biggest champion of cultural conservatism, Europe has ever witnessed since 1950. I am one of many destroyers of cultural Marxism and as such; a hero of Europe, a savior of our people and of European Christendom â?? by default. A perfect example which should be copied, applauded and celebrated. The Perfect Knight I have always strived to be. A Justiciar Knight is a destroyer of multiculturalism, and as such; a destroyer of evil and a bringer of light. I will know that I did everything I could to stop and reverse the European cultural and demographical genocide and end and reverse the Islamisation of Europe.”
I have my doubts.
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^^ What he said. The guy is batshit. He signs off:
‘Justiciar Knight Commander for Knights Templar Europe and one of several leaders of the National and pan-European Patriotic Resistance Movement with the assistance from brothers and sisters in England, France, Germany, Sweden, Austria, Italy, Spain, Finland, Belgium, the Netherlands, Denmark, the US etc.’
If you truly believe his pathetic insanity plea, you are free to pay for his “therapy” and enjoy his eventual freedom.
If you venture onto the lonely road of planned murder, some form of megalomania will get to you, because we aren’t born killers. But that’s not insanity.
The man is no more insane then your next man.
He had the balls to do something many men dream of daily although it’s a safe bet to say what he did was terrible or even evil.
His deeds make little direct sense to us, but so do 90% of the things that people do.
Just so we set some “rules”, are you defending him?
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
[quote]florelius wrote:
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
[quote]kamui wrote:
[quote]Christian, conservative extremist!
Where are your comments about Islam now, JEWbacca? Do you want to address jewish terrorism, jewish organized crime and Israel’s weapons of mass destruction?
This guy’s views and comments are not that far off from Ron Paul supporters and other “Libertarians.”[/quote]
please.
not today. not in this thread.
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This sort of shit was bound to start spewing forth. Perhaps people jump to conclusions about highly organised attacks comprising ANFO car bombs and shooting sprees because…oh I don’t know, because MUSLIMS do this shit on a daily basis? I didn’t want to jump into this shit. Perhaps people should just ignore lunatic crap from people like Garcia1970 and Rohnyn,[/quote]
please keep your bigoted and fascistoid feelings towards muslims out of this thread, that exist because some fucker with bigoted and fascistoid fellings towards muslims decided to kill 90+ people.[/quote]
I even ignored Bambi’s gleeful revelation of the suspect being ‘six foot four white male’. I ignored therajraj’s stuff. It wasn’t until I saw a raving load of shit from both Rohnyn and Garcia1970 that I felt I should say something.
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Mate I wasn’t being gleeful I was stating what I heard on the radio as I was driving home from picking my brother up at the station. I don’t care what colour this man is, he’s a monster full stop. If you look at my posts on either thread of this I have done nothing except update and express my condolences; I have no political axe to grind here. Please stop inferring meanings to my words I never meant.
Although that question is pointless - no, of course not.
He is a monster. I think that much is clear.
[quote]Schwarzfahrer wrote:
Although that question is pointless - no, of course not.
He is a monster. I think that much is clear.
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Then I don’t understand your position. As far I know, he hasn’t pleaded insanity…and I’ve got the feeling that he won’t either, so I don’t understand your comment of “buying his plea…”
He’s a genius, a mad one because I think it requires some mental mishap for someone so intelligent to open fire on civilians like he had planned for years and years.
He’s not going free anytime soon, I’m sure. He’s very, very dangerous because he may inspire many more. In his manifesto you can find instructions on how to prepare everything.
[quote]Bambi wrote:
Mate I wasn’t being gleeful I was stating what I heard on the radio as I was driving home from picking my brother up at the station. I don’t care what colour this man is, he’s a monster full stop. If you look at my posts on either thread of this I have done nothing except update and express my condolences; I have no political axe to grind here. Please stop inferring meanings to my words I never meant.[/quote]
OK, sorry. Just makes me angry that some people(maybe not you) were desperate to show that this guy wasn’t a Muslim and to label anyone who previously suspected that this was an Islamist attack an ‘Islamophobe’. I’m currently wading through this nut’s manifesto on this braw, bricht moonlicht nicht. It’s an interesting read so far I can tell you.
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Then I don’t understand your position. As far I know, he hasn’t pleaded insanity…and I’ve got the feeling that he won’t either, so I don’t understand your comment of “buying his plea…”
He’s a genius, a mad one because I think it requires some mental mishap for someone so intelligent to open fire on civilians like he had planned for years and years.
He’s not going free anytime soon, I’m sure. He’s very, very dangerous because he may inspire many more. In his manifesto you can find instructions on how to prepare everything. [/quote]
Does a person have to be insane to do this?
My society thinks automatically, “YES!” every time someone as such arises.
I wonder why?
Hitler - batshit insane; Stalin - crazy megalomaniac; Mao - narcissistic egomaniac.
Is it so hard to imagine you can enter a maze that will swallow your humanity, on your own free will? Even if you think great gloy will await you on the other side?
But no - it HAS to be i-n-s-a-n-i-t-y.
No point in trying to understand, you can’t.
The only way we can react is pray, condemn and continue to reproduce.
[quote]Schwarzfahrer wrote:
Would you prefer the term “inhuman”?
of course. Big Difference.
You can’t put an inhuman person to the loony bin.
Also, the deeds of insane people don’t impose moral questions on us, they can only make us sad.
Now that the 32-year-old terror accused Oslo man has confessed to having published the material on the web. There are sources in the police confirming this to the TV 2. Anders Behring Breivik (32) Prior to the attacks, published a long manifesto and a video on the Internet, where he describes the attacks he was about to
perform. Both the video and the document is apparently published online on Friday 22 July ? the day the attacks occurred.
The video and document ?Marxist Hunter?. It is about more than twelve minutes long video, which Behring Brevik compare themselves with Knights, and encourage a year-long war against Marxism and Islamism. He has also published a manuscript of 1,500 pages which he explains very extreme political views. In addition, he describes in detail how an attack to be carried out. Everything from the use of the car bomb of the type of equipment to be used in an attack.
[quote]Jewbacca wrote:
[quote]Bonesaw93 wrote:
Are there any updates on this? Did they determine the cause of the explosion. Article says bomb blast but it doesn’t look like there’s any evidence at this time to support that.[/quote]
Yemeni immigrants just exercising their freedom of worship of “allah.”
Apparently, their god demands human sacrifices.[/quote]
had nothing to do with Islam please inform yourself before posting, it was a christian fundamentalist with pro israeli anti muslim and marxist views
[quote]Schwarzfahrer wrote:
of course. Big Difference.
You can’t put an inhuman person to the loony bin.
Also, the deeds of insane people don’t impose moral questions on us, they can only make us sad. [/quote]
Oh, that’s the route you’re going. There I agree, for sure, that even if “legally” insane he should be confined and isolated.
[quote]weby wrote:
[quote]Jewbacca wrote:
[quote]Bonesaw93 wrote:
Are there any updates on this? Did they determine the cause of the explosion. Article says bomb blast but it doesn’t look like there’s any evidence at this time to support that.[/quote]
Yemeni immigrants just exercising their freedom of worship of “allah.”
Apparently, their god demands human sacrifices.[/quote]
had nothing to do with Islam please inform yourself before posting, it was a christian fundamentalist with pro israeli anti muslim and marxist views[/quote]
That comment was posted well over 24 hours ago. Have a little think about what was in the public domain about the attacks at that time:
- Car bomb detonated outside Norwegian government building that houses PM’s office.
and
- Coordinated small arms massacre of civilians at a government party youth camp.
and
- Claims from Islamist group that it was committed by Islamists.
Hmm…maybe people should have concluded that a Norwegian conservative on steroids did it? I mean with all the recent and historical precedents of conservative car bombings and civilian massacres right?
Anyone here who knew only 1,2 and 3 and DIDN’T suspect Islamic fundamentalists is full of shit.
[quote]Edevus wrote:
[quote]Schwarzfahrer wrote:
of course. Big Difference.
You can’t put an inhuman person to the loony bin.
Also, the deeds of insane people don’t impose moral questions on us, they can only make us sad. [/quote]
Oh, that’s the route you’re going. There I agree, for sure, that even if “legally” insane he should be confined and isolated.
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If there is a manly form of “high five” two adults can share over the internet, I shall not turn you down.
So I read the latest news and it seems the killer admitted his deeds were “cruel”, but he also sayds “it had to be done”.
Clearly he’s no more psychopathic then any soldier going into war.
If you declare him crazy, you have lock up all bomber pilots, GIs and even generals who come up with actual war plans.
He is crazy! But there are many forms of crazy.
You cant compare him to a soldier just because their justifying their actions.
A “normal” soldier dosent kill civillians, atleast not on purpose.
This guy killed defenseless civilians and most of them children.
Everyone with a normal thought process will see that his actions wont change our nation’s politics in his favor no matter how many people he kills.
This is a truly disturbed person that has used his crazy ideology as an excuse to satisfy his desire to kill. If he was a highly intelligent person he wouldn’t have copied the entire manifest of the Unabomber and claimed it as his own. He would also have seen what i’ve stated above, that killing these people wouldnt make people any more supportive of his ideology.
Yeah right, a WW2 bomber pilot could carpet bomb because he KNEW there wouldn’t be civilian deaths…um, wait.
As to your other argument, surprise!-there is none!
All you do is equal non state/non organized killing=unnormal, therefore I wish it to be insanity.
I might kill you if I think it’d save my family.
That would make me sad and perhaps gloomy for some time, but not crazy.
no.
this guy killed “cultural marxists” who destroy the european civilization from the inside.
He killed the viral vectors of the “islamification” of his country.
He killed political activists : ie ennemy soldiers in a “cultural war”.
they were all but innocent children in his eyes.
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Everyone with a normal thought process will see that his actions wont change our nation’s politics in his favor no matter how many people he kills.[/quote]
Except his actions WILL definitely change his nation’s politics. Maybe not “in his favor”, but it surely doesn’t matter for him.
It will be seen as a martyr by many young far right activists, and his ideas will be publicly debated and commented.
And more importantly : the political climate will be durably worsened, radicalized and tensed.
He is neither crazy nor a genius. He is an ideological fanatic.