Add glycerin to baking soda to form a pasty mixture that can be applied to a toothbrush with a spoon or other instrument.
Put a capful of hydrogen peroxide in a tumbler.
Moisten bristles of toothbrush (mulitufted) by dipping in peroxide
Rub moistened bristles over cake of unscented Neutrogena soap
Cover bristles with soda-glycerin mixture.
While watching in a mirror brush cheek-sides and tongue-sides of teeth
Redip brush in peroxide as needed
Work mixture between teeth with a flat toothpick or Butler stimulator
A few drops of wintergreen oil could be added to the glycerin-soda mixture for flavor
Over the years when I was lecturing, I asked thousands of dentists and hygienists to raise there hands if they had ever seen destructive periodontal disease in person who had regularly brushed with salt and/or soda. I have never seen a hand! And although I have not seen many such cases, the periodontal health in these patients has always been excellent. I have photographs of a lady who was 95 at the time I saw her. She lived to be over 100.
I recall hearing something about the potential abrasiveness of baking soda. Fact or fiction?
Comments from dental experts (TheSmileCreator, etc.) would be most appreciated. Thanks in advance!
I am NOT a doctor or dentist and have NO training on this issue.
That being said, my mom had us do this for a bit when we were kids. It sucked ass. It tastes about as bad as you can imagine and foams up as you try to brush. I ended up basically just drooling on myself.
I’m not sure about the chemical mixture’s effect on teeth. I’m 99% sure that Crest Whitestrips are mostly peroxide and possibly baking soda as well (and remember Arm and Hammer makes a baking soda toothpaste).
I wouldn’t do it on simple tast alone. I would rather have Austin Powers’s teeth than brush with that combo on a regular basis.
I used baking soda + peroxyde only, and it sure leaves a nice clean feeling after it, almost like if these 2 chemicals had scraped , or dissolved, a layer of bad stuff. Heck, I just woke up from a 3 hour nap and it still feels far more cleaner than when compared to my regular toothpaste.
I recall TheSmileCreator mentioning that some people loved having a clean feeling but used methods so harsh that they scraped a couple of microns of teeth each time they used X method. I can`t recall which one.
So far, I agree with what was mentionned. It foams alot, and the soda seems to dissolve real quick, it`s hard imaging something abrasive still being there.
Just curious to see what science says about it. Keyes seems to be a legend in dentistry, so his recommendation must be A-OK. I just don`t it dates back to when and if science has not found contrary evidence since.
Toothpaste is for teeth. Toothpaste containing Baking Soda is for teeth. Baking Soda in a box is for baking, and for removing odors from your fridge. Just a suggestion.
Yes, I have seen major damage done to teeth from people who use non-traditional hygiene measures, but I haven’t had to pull any teeth for that reason. They just end up with super-sensitive teeth, but hey, if that’s what blows your hair back, give it a go. Oh, yes, and the teeth get yellower as they wear off more and more of the “white” enamel, exposing more and more gray or yellow dentin.
For what it’s worth, I hold no stock in Proctor and Gamble.
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Dan, you can try a basic search on pubmed.com if you’d like.
I found no research either for or against a home-made paste, so my own observations would be anecdotal. You’d never get a human clinical random trial with any method to go ahead anyway. However, I stand by my suggestion of buying whatever is cheapest. The amount of cleaning of the teeth seems to be more dependent on the individual than the implement or the substance on the tooth brush. If you want a great clean feeling, my recommendation is Colgate Total, with the Sonicare Elite Toothbrush. Anecdotally, I have never seen cleaner teeth than with that combination.
Just a clarification: the baking soda we use is Arm & Hammer Dental Care, no idea if there is much difference from the box in the fridge or not.
A little pile in the palm of your hand, a couple drops of peroxide to make a paste, dip in the Oral-B battery powered toothbrush/vibrator combo and get busy.
I have been putting a little baking soda on my tooth brush with some baking soda tooth paste. The baking soda does not taste to good though I have to admit.
Dan: My new office is being set up as we speak, so I can’t sell anything 'cept out of my trunk. Right now I’m doing a locum (temp. work). Plus, I’m now an orthodontist, having completed my graduate work. Thus, I don’t get to pull teeth anymore. Just surgery and braces.
If you want the previous generation Sonicare, go to Costco. I know you’re in Canada, and it’s relatively cheap there. However, I recommend the newer, Elite model, which is smaller, better, faster, etc. (ie. around 130$ retail). When I get my office set up (6 months away) I will be allowed to sell the Sonicare Elite for about 70 CDN). I know guys who get them from Ebay, maybe try that?
Secondly, you didn’t touch a nerve. I hardly visit here much anymore, but I’m happy to see your post(s).
Finally, I want to once again thank the T-mag community for helping me to drop 70 pounds of fat. Going from 245 to now took a while, and it’s going to stay off, thanks to all of you. Too bad I’m too shy to flash a photo for that Hot-Rox Cattle Call. I did in fact use it, for a bit, but I must confess, it was probably the diet and training advice that kicked my ass into gear. If I can find a photo with my clothes ON, maybe I’ll send that one, just so I don’t lose my license.
in health, and teeth.
any other questions> Feel free to PM. I’ll ck in when I can.
Crap. Sorry Dan, I forgot to reply to your other question. I KNOW there are toothpastes without mint or other menthols, I just can’t think of any. A lot of people react to the Sodium Lauryl Sulfate in toothpastes, which is a common cause of canker sores (apthous ulcerations, for you odonto-geeks).
I’m told that Rembrandt Natural Whitening is very good for those who have sensitivities to the stuff, but there’s probably dozens you can try. How ‘bout this? Go to Wal-mart, load up your toothbrush, and try as many pastes as you can before security boots your Eastern Canadian, non-votin’ ass outta there? Oh yes, and don’t forget to use that “price checking” laser to shoot them in the eyes…
(ha ha). Hooboy, I gotta get some sleep…
Sonicare (in my experience, and I’m not a dentist) was not very effective. I’ve been using Braun 3D excel and have found a huge difference with it. I believe there was some study comparing different toothbrushes and the Braun came out ahead.
Oh and I’m not sure your motivation for posting this thread to begin with, but if periodontal disease is an issue then coenzyme Q-10 can make a big difference. You would want e.g. 100 mg and get the kind with oil in a gel cap as it is more effectively absorbed that way.
Don’t believe me. Try the sonic on one half of your mouth, and the braun on the other half of your mouth, and use disclosing solution and compare. Let us know what you find. In my mouth the braun was a singificantly better at removing plauque.
An independent research group The Cochrane Collaboration, recently completed the most comprehensive review of power toothbrush studies ever undertaken.
Rotation-oscillation toothbrushes, like the ProfessionalCare Series, reduce plaque and gingivitis by between 7% and 17% more than manual toothbrushes.
No other form of power toothbrushes, including “sonic,” proved to be any better than a manual toothbrush in
reducing plaque and gingivitis.
It also says:
More dental professionals worldwide recommend Oral-B oscillating-rotating
power toothbrushes to their patients than any other brand of toothbrush.
