[quote]L-Dizzle wrote:
Professor X wrote:
B415 wrote:
Psychology is a major for people who want to see why they are so F#cked up!
Who isn’t “fucked up”?
Preach.
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Its the very reason I wanted to switch my major to Psychology:)
To bad there is no money in knowing why you are fucked up…
[quote]B415 wrote:
L-Dizzle wrote:
Professor X wrote:
B415 wrote:
Psychology is a major for people who want to see why they are so F#cked up!
Who isn’t “fucked up”?
Preach.
Its the very reason I wanted to switch my major to Psychology:)
To bad there is no money in knowing why you are fucked up…
[/quote]
No money?
Do they (psychologists) really have it that bad?
[quote]L-Dizzle wrote:
B415 wrote:
L-Dizzle wrote:
Professor X wrote:
B415 wrote:
Psychology is a major for people who want to see why they are so F#cked up!
Who isn’t “fucked up”?
Preach.
Its the very reason I wanted to switch my major to Psychology:)
To bad there is no money in knowing why you are fucked up…
No money?
Do they (psychologists) really have it that bad?
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Without a medical degree, there is very little you can do in psychology that will produce much much money aside from possibly research. I would consider that to be limited as well.
[quote]KombatAthlete wrote:
mike08042 wrote:
jsbrook wrote:
BrwnbellyYankee wrote:
learn to network and that degree will take you places.
at least thats what i learned from talking with the old strength coach for the NY Yankees.
Who you know is only second to what you know. But it is SECOND. It may (and should) open some doors and opportunties, but if you’re not skilled and educated, it won’t take you very far.
I have to totally disagree, its all about who you know, not what you know. ( In most cases almost anyone can be trained for most jobs, I have seen alot of non-experienced people get undeserved promotions without any education get recognized and end up getting the job. But jsbrook said learn to network and his degree will take him places, and you said that if your not educated you wont get anywhere? Well to me having a degree doesnt mean your uneducated. Regardless I believe a good education can go far if you know how to network well.
I would imagine in depending on the field. I bet its far more important on Wall Street than it is for chemists, for example.
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Thats a good point. I would definitely say that any profession in which you can practice either without the requirement of a degree or a profession in which you actually can feasably practice (chemistry obviously no one has the substances and equipment necessary to learn at home), doesnt need a degree, for that field. I do agree a BS in something should be a minimum though. The way I look at school in general no matter what degree you have is it shows a certain amount of work has been done. And if you have one of the summas, you are probably pretty organized and studious. A degree does not show a certain amount of understanding in a subject, or even the potential for such.
My main problem with degrees is that there is no guarantee the person is qualified for what he/she is doing, it is very conceivable that you have a BS, MS, Phd in Ex Phys, and not understand the mechanics of doing a lunge. I also think that school is misconstrued as being the only honorable and hard working way to do things. What if you are training at a good gym and in your spare time you read biomechanics, physiology and anatomy books.
If you are eager to learn and read those books all the time should you be thought of as less than a kid who studies for a half hour before his clinical exercise midterm, just because you are not in school? FUCK NO! I say all this because I am in school right now at Umass-Boston and I see people graduating with 4.0’s who havent a fucking clue about training, but by some they would be looked to as an expert/professional, because they went to school…
[quote]Professor X wrote:
L-Dizzle wrote:
B415 wrote:
L-Dizzle wrote:
Professor X wrote:
B415 wrote:
Psychology is a major for people who want to see why they are so F#cked up!
Who isn’t “fucked up”?
Preach.
Its the very reason I wanted to switch my major to Psychology:)
To bad there is no money in knowing why you are fucked up…
No money?
Do they (psychologists) really have it that bad?
Without a medical degree, there is very little you can do in psychology that will produce much much money aside from possibly research. I would consider that to be limited as well.
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So I really can’t pick a profitable interest huh… lol… scary.
That being said, a pre-med major would still be a wise choice right, considering the options it gives?
[quote]Shadowzz4 wrote:
KombatAthlete wrote:
mike08042 wrote:
jsbrook wrote:
BrwnbellyYankee wrote:
learn to network and that degree will take you places.
at least thats what i learned from talking with the old strength coach for the NY Yankees.
Who you know is only second to what you know. But it is SECOND. It may (and should) open some doors and opportunties, but if you’re not skilled and educated, it won’t take you very far.
I have to totally disagree, its all about who you know, not what you know. ( In most cases almost anyone can be trained for most jobs, I have seen alot of non-experienced people get undeserved promotions without any education get recognized and end up getting the job. But jsbrook said learn to network and his degree will take him places, and you said that if your not educated you wont get anywhere? Well to me having a degree doesnt mean your uneducated. Regardless I believe a good education can go far if you know how to network well.
I would imagine in depending on the field. I bet its far more important on Wall Street than it is for chemists, for example.
Thats a good point. I would definitely say that any profession in which you can practice either without the requirement of a degree or a profession in which you actually can feasably practice (chemistry obviously no one has the substances and equipment necessary to learn at home), doesnt need a degree, for that field. I do agree a BS in something should be a minimum though. The way I look at school in general no matter what degree you have is it shows a certain amount of work has been done. And if you have one of the summas, you are probably pretty organized and studious. A degree does not show a certain amount of understanding in a subject, or even the potential for such.
My main problem with degrees is that there is no guarantee the person is qualified for what he/she is doing, it is very conceivable that you have a BS, MS, Phd in Ex Phys, and not understand the mechanics of doing a lunge. I also think that school is misconstrued as being the only honorable and hard working way to do things. What if you are training at a good gym and in your spare time you read biomechanics, physiology and anatomy books.
If you are eager to learn and read those books all the time should you be thought of as less than a kid who studies for a half hour before his clinical exercise midterm, just because you are not in school? FUCK NO! I say all this because I am in school right now at Umass-Boston and I see people graduating with 4.0’s who havent a fucking clue about training, but by some they would be looked to as an expert/professional, because they went to school…
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I agree, it’s kinda messed up that there are people in a profession who don’t have a clue about it, yet still act as if they know everything and no one else knows better.
But then again, it’s hard to evaluate a persons knowledge anyhow. There are people/consumers/customers, who value a degree above anything else. The higher the degree, the more these people presume that this “professional” knows what he’s doing. That might be true, but it might not.
Then there are those who don’t look at degrees, but the professionals achievements… But it’s hard to have any achievements when you’re just starting. This is where I think that knowing the right people come into play. To get one started. It could also be just a matter of being an intern in the right place. In athletics though, I believe that an athletic background gives some credibility, because one has already been through some of the tribulations the prospective clients are about to go through (now talking about s&c).
[quote]Professor X wrote:
L-Dizzle wrote:
B415 wrote:
L-Dizzle wrote:
Professor X wrote:
B415 wrote:
Psychology is a major for people who want to see why they are so F#cked up!
Who isn’t “fucked up”?
Preach.
Its the very reason I wanted to switch my major to Psychology:)
To bad there is no money in knowing why you are fucked up…
No money?
Do they (psychologists) really have it that bad?
Without a medical degree, there is very little you can do in psychology that will produce much much money aside from possibly research. I would consider that to be limited as well.
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Yup. The old-time congnitive psychologists (think Dr. Melphi on Sopranos) charge a lot and make a lot. But that’s dying out and is extremely hard to break into. Really the only way to make money is be at the top of your field, be affiliated with a university, and perhaps testify as an expert witness. In short, you need a Ph.D. and need to get hired by a top university. Or you can go the psychiatry route as Professor X said.
[quote]L-Dizzle wrote:
Professor X wrote:
L-Dizzle wrote:
B415 wrote:
L-Dizzle wrote:
Professor X wrote:
B415 wrote:
Psychology is a major for people who want to see why they are so F#cked up!
Who isn’t “fucked up”?
Preach.
Its the very reason I wanted to switch my major to Psychology:)
To bad there is no money in knowing why you are fucked up…
No money?
Do they (psychologists) really have it that bad?
Without a medical degree, there is very little you can do in psychology that will produce much much money aside from possibly research. I would consider that to be limited as well.
So I really can’t pick a profitable interest huh… lol… scary.
That being said, a pre-med major would still be a wise choice right, considering the options it gives?[/quote]
If you’re actually interested in medicine, the medical field is quite profitable. And any undegraduate major can be taken for law school, and you may find that it ties in surprisingly well in unexpected ways.
Whoever said Kinesiology was a joke degree and really easy doesn’t know what there talking about. Take a year of it and see how well you can do… my first year consisted of.
organic chemistry
Fitness, nutrition and wellness (course through the nsca)
introduction to kin
philosophy of sport
enlish compositiom
english literature
movemrnt skill development
motor skills and physical growth
principles of health
i took 3 business electives
intro to accounting
intro to management
intro to computing
At my school kinesiology and engineering are considered a harder program. I have so many options coming out of my ass when I graduate too I have no worries about being successful.
University kinesiology is a joke. I did two years at a good school and quit because it was a waste of my time and money. You learn the terminology and all that great stuff but nothing that a resonably bright person can’t pick up on his own, and nothing that will make you a good coach or trainer.
If your goal is to be a self-employed trainer then I see next to no reason to pursue a degree in kinesiology or any related field. That is four years and tens of thousands of dollars that you could invest in your own business while acquiring all the same knowledge and probably more on your own. When you graduate, you’ll have nothing more than a few letters behind your name that will perhaps allow you to sell yourelf a little more effectively.
Just say “no” to majoring in kinesiology.
[quote]BigHog wrote:
Whoever said Kinesiology was a joke degree and really easy doesn’t know what there talking about. Take a year of it and see how well you can do… my first year consisted of.
organic chemistry
Fitness, nutrition and wellness (course through the nsca)
introduction to kin
philosophy of sport
enlish compositiom
english literature
movemrnt skill development
motor skills and physical growth
principles of health
i took 3 business electives
intro to accounting
intro to management
intro to computing
At my school kinesiology and engineering are considered a harder program. I have so many options coming out of my ass when I graduate too I have no worries about being successful.[/quote]
What school puts Kinesiology at the same level of difficulty as Engineering? Biology and Engineering, yes. Biochemistry and Engineering, yes. But Kinesiology?
The hardest class you took your first year was Organic Chemistry. I would have fallen asleep for the semester on the rest of the classes you were in. English Composition? Those are classes you should be walking through.
I did walk through composition and a couple of others. The workload is alot. Lots of research stuff and working with people. Kind of like hands on stuff. The movement skill development stuff is pretty tough. Everyone goes into Kinesiology thinking its gym class. Theres alot more too it however.
[quote]BigHog wrote:
I did walk through composition and a couple of others. The workload is alot. Lots of research stuff and working with people. Kind of like hands on stuff. The movement skill development stuff is pretty tough. Everyone goes into Kinesiology thinking its gym class. Theres alot more too it however.[/quote]
I don’t doubt that, however, I used to tutor some guys in Engineering in their calculus classes and their workload is a little more extensive than what you listed. The classes you listed would be like a vacation for most Biology majors.
Im attending a tech school and hating it. I was planning on studying kinesiology, lost a sports scholarship (cant cut weight anymore because of blood sugar problems/hypoglycemia), and RIT was my backup school (guidance counselor recommended). Since I lost the scholarships, I couldnt afford it otherwise, so I ended up here. If you make a decision based on financial obligations, you will put yourself alongside a large percentage of americans. Might I add that most americans are largely unhappy with their work.
[quote]BigHog wrote:
Whoever said Kinesiology was a joke degree and really easy doesn’t know what there talking about. Take a year of it and see how well you can do… my first year consisted of.
organic chemistry
Fitness, nutrition and wellness (course through the nsca)
introduction to kin
philosophy of sport
enlish compositiom
english literature
movemrnt skill development
motor skills and physical growth
principles of health
i took 3 business electives
intro to accounting
intro to management
intro to computing
At my school kinesiology and engineering are considered a harder program. I have so many options coming out of my ass when I graduate too I have no worries about being successful.[/quote]
Yeah, don’t take it personally, but those classes, apart from Chemistry, aren’t the most challenging. They all seem pretty basic, in fact.
A biology or a biochemistry degree would open more doors than an exercise science degree (and probably all the doors an exercise science degree would, too). I think if you can handle something like biochem, you won’t have too much trouble learning other things that are thrown at you in the years to come. Whether that be in the fitness field or not…
[quote]jsbrook wrote:
Yup. The old-time congnitive psychologists (think Dr. Melphi on Sopranos) charge a lot and make a lot. But that’s dying out and is extremely hard to break into.[/quote]
A cognitive psychologist predominantly does research; they don’t treat people. I believe you’re thinking of a clinical psychologist, which is very different. That’s where the “seeing how messed up you are” part comes in. Also, someone like Dr. Melphi is most liekly a psychiatrist.
I don’t mean to be nitpicky, but I have two psychology degrees and I hate the generalization that this qualifies me to diagnose mental illnesses. 
“As I was going through my education I had an advisor and he would tell me there would be no money or success to come form lifting weights and I had to focus on other things. What they did not see was that my focus and passion was set and I knew there would be a way to get what I truly wanted. So while they are still working in their crappy offices trying to destroy childhood dreams - I am fucking living mine!”
-Dave Tate
Enough said, and don’t listen to anyone that says you have to get a shitty political science or business major to succeed in life.
[quote]engerland66 wrote:
BigHog wrote:
Whoever said Kinesiology was a joke degree and really easy doesn’t know what there talking about. Take a year of it and see how well you can do… my first year consisted of.
organic chemistry
Fitness, nutrition and wellness (course through the nsca)
introduction to kin
philosophy of sport
enlish compositiom
english literature
movemrnt skill development
motor skills and physical growth
principles of health
i took 3 business electives
intro to accounting
intro to management
intro to computing
At my school kinesiology and engineering are considered a harder program. I have so many options coming out of my ass when I graduate too I have no worries about being successful.
Yeah, don’t take it personally, but those classes, apart from Chemistry, aren’t the most challenging. They all seem pretty basic, in fact.
A biology or a biochemistry degree would open more doors than an exercise science degree (and probably all the doors an exercise science degree would, too). I think if you can handle something like biochem, you won’t have too much trouble learning other things that are thrown at you in the years to come. Whether that be in the fitness field or not…
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Well it is first year.
[quote]DLboy wrote:
“As I was going through my education I had an advisor and he would tell me there would be no money or success to come form lifting weights and I had to focus on other things. What they did not see was that my focus and passion was set and I knew there would be a way to get what I truly wanted. So while they are still working in their crappy offices trying to destroy childhood dreams - I am fucking living mine!”
-Dave Tate
Enough said, and don’t listen to anyone that says you have to get a shitty political science or business major to succeed in life.[/quote]
Anyone that ever gets the chance to meet Dave Tate will immediately realize that passion and intensity pour from his sweat. If you have this kind of desire, nothing can stop you from success.
[quote]jsbrook wrote:
L-Dizzle wrote:
Professor X wrote:
L-Dizzle wrote:
B415 wrote:
L-Dizzle wrote:
Professor X wrote:
B415 wrote:
Psychology is a major for people who want to see why they are so F#cked up!
Who isn’t “fucked up”?
Preach.
Its the very reason I wanted to switch my major to Psychology:)
To bad there is no money in knowing why you are fucked up…
No money?
Do they (psychologists) really have it that bad?
Without a medical degree, there is very little you can do in psychology that will produce much much money aside from possibly research. I would consider that to be limited as well.
So I really can’t pick a profitable interest huh… lol… scary.
That being said, a pre-med major would still be a wise choice right, considering the options it gives?
If you’re actually interested in medicine, the medical field is quite profitable. And any undegraduate major can be taken for law school, and you may find that it ties in surprisingly well in unexpected ways.
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Well, I can’t say I’m actually interested, but I wouldn’t rule that out as totally disinteresting. I’ve also thought about law school previously…
But doesn’t one need to have a basic set of skills and/or courses before going to law school? I mean, not that they are actually required, but I’ve read that subjects like english, political history, american history, speech, stuff like that, studied as an undergrad, would help someone in law school… correct??
Now that we are on the subject, how are the applicants to law school evaluated, and what courses does a pre-law undergrad program consist of?