haha … I think this is where I disagree … we’re a species where some members do things some other members view as terrible - then there are other members who do things other members view as admirable - then there’s the vast majority who do things some members do not notice as view as neutral. The neutral group is the majority.
I will agree, by and large, as a species, and I fall victim to this, we have difficulty examining our own individual faults. Some do so and take the difficult steps to correct what the one may view as terrible or reprehensible in favor of what one may view as admirable, for reasons which may vary.
His point is myopic and does not capture the variations in quality and impact of human action either at the individual level or in groups. NTTAWWT
This is GOLD!!
yea, that was my question too … very confusing phrasing
So the Pence rule … got it
Continue standing strong homie … keep growing as a person and let her do the same … give her the space and take full advantage of said space yourself. Either way you both will be better off growing as people separately - if the stars align and y’all end up back together at some point in the future, y’all would have the benefit of this experience and approaching it positively.
Again, don’t pursue any reconciliation - if it happens, let it happen organically, if it doesn’t, you’re already on the road to self improvement … it’s a win win my man for everyone involved.
Just hasn’t been my observation. Now, keep in mind, I wasn’t saying we are a species that does terrible things, but that we’re a terrible species. Those that commit the truly terrible things are in the minority, but one ponders if it’s simply because it’s only a minority of people that are put into positions wherein they CAN perform terrible things (by vested power, position, etc) and that the rest must be content with their minor tyranny and transgressions.
I always bring up driving as my example of just how awful we are. Look at how many people are on their phones while you drive these days. What these people are communicating with their actions is “I value my entertainment more than your life and safety”. And it’s an ABSURD number of people doing this.
It seems like MOST people got it was a joke right away, haha.
Dude. She is actively having sex with someone else and feels guilty about it, and is stringing you along in case her new thing doesn’t work out. EVERYONE HAS TOLD YOU THIS. Move on.
Skipped out on a lot of this topic and cherry-picked all the answers that I agreed with, then assumed everyone agreed with me. So no, you’re not a joke, you’re just part of everyone, unless you disagree, in which case you just don’t exist to me right now.
Well there are several factors which a woman can behave in real whorish ways.
The obvious one’s are the needy attention starved who enjoy attention from any man they meet (usually daddy issues or some other self esteem issues) Of course the stereo typical lonely and neglected House Wife who’s husband is always travelling for work (or deployed overseas for months)
About T there have been studies on this. Most women have about 1/7 - 1/10th the amount of Testosterone a man has flowing freely through their blood Some women have more some have less. This is considering all else equal in their upbringing and self esteem is in check. So this could just mean she’ll require sex from her husband more often than the neighbors wife and so on. On the flip side, we all know Low T dudes around us. The friend in high school, who was just the book work, trended toward soft or chubby, didn’t notice girls much, was never harboring nudie books and so on. The women with more T will be prone to more masculine behavior, typically more athleticism , and yes more sex drive. Its still not what a (normal) man’s sexual desire would be, but it can be way past what other women’s drive is.
** Anecdotally - go to Brazil, you’ll see what I mean. Sexy yet, on average deeper voice, trending female muscularity (in average non gym women…moms, even grandma’s), ranging from slightly more sexually aggressive to outright open promiscuity. Many even have that lantern jaw thing going on (squared off manly jaw line) Needless to say if you cannot get laid there, then something’s wrong with you.
This is a bit of a confession, but I was a lying, cheating piece of shit to a few past girlfriends, and strung one girl who was particularly in love with me on, while cheating on her with another girl who was in love with me, and lying to HER about the OTHER girl. When they both found out, they both dumped me, and rightfully so - I did not deserve their time or concern. My wife once mused that she wished she’d met me a few years before we actually met, and I told her no, she doesn’t, because I wasn’t marriage - or even boyfriend - material. I still feel guilty about how much of a dick I was, and actually made amends with ex’s and their friends at my 10 year high school reunion with my wife at my side (my wife knows every dickish thing I did at that time), but my point here is that I can spot the signs of this happening because I was the one doing it. And that shit that she’s saying - it’s what I would have said to keep option A available.
Yeah that was a point that should be fairly obvious to most - but to maybe our younger members who grew up with Instagram & dating apps and such, it needs to be said.
You might have read this from the wrong perspective. I never mentioned total numbers or any sort of 1:1 correlation on who cheats and why.
10 women hit the town looking for new potential mates. No matter where they find them, the reason why they hit the town most often isn’t because they’re seeking out some porn star to remodel their vagina. Chances are its validation and attention and sometimes that’s through sex and other times not.
10 men go out on the town. They might be married , taken or single but their looking for physical action. They won’t lose much sleep if they hook up with a female and she doesn’t call back. The pool of women could range from married to single to single girls who ADORE married men (something about the competition w/ wife or the taboo of it all)
I heard it stated best using a Meme - something like Life under the patriarchy meant men as leaders, who always placed the happiness and safety of women and children first. Life under Feminism means putting women first before men and children by any means necessary.
I’m not sure why it’s so difficult for some people to wrap their heads around the idea that not all men were nice and that not all women and children were cherished and well cared for under the patriarchy. Women’s rights allow women to leave monsters and deadbeats and pursue their own wellbeing and that of their children through honest labor. Men and women have every opportunity to live in traditional relationships. The only difference is that they’re not forced to now.
How does that not seem reasonable? How can anyone call this a bad thing?
One of my grandfathers was a farmer, he was not required to join the military because people here still needed to eat. My other grandfather was conscripted into the Polish army.
You’re talking about Hamas and their friends, right? I know Hamas is fucked up and makes the situation worse than it needs to be, but this is news to me. If you have a link to that I would be very interested too see.
Good job, just keep going and don’t let yourself worry about what she’s doing or thinking. She’s busy with whatever has taken her attention, which is at the very least a desire to reassess the relationship with you, which means that for her something was wrong.
Perhaps you’re right, and I don’t have time or inclination to research it now, but I did a college paper on domestic violence and I clearly recall citing research about relative rates of violence. Not to say that there isn’t violence in female-only relationships, but that it does not occur at the rates seen in male-male and male-female.
I don’t label my behavior in any way, but I also avoid situations that would put me in the way of prowling men and generally speaking don’t make eye contact with men in public without reason (e.g. while addressing someone who is helping me at the hardware store). I have no problem talking to men in a professional or social context, but no interest in stirring the pot with random men.
On a more general note, since it’s been noted as the axis of sinful behavior, I feel that I should disclose that I’m going to a weeklong training next week with my best friend, and at a resort town no less. However, we won’t be hanging out at bars. We’ll drink at restaurants and at our inn, which has patio and rooftop seating. If we get drunk, the most obnoxious behavior we typically engage in is to text and/or call one or both of our husbands.
I’ll also be at a training alone in a few months, staying at a Holiday Inn. I won’t be hitting the bar, or drinking at all for that matter. I can’t even imagine doing so, honestly.
