[quote]ALDurr wrote:
Also, please dispense with the “conservative” and “liberal” labeling horseshit. [/quote]
Ha ha…if I were a liberal I wouldn’t want peoople throwing labels around either…
[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
That is an outrage!
I am writing my Congressman.
You asked. I provided. I don’t care what you think about it.
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[quote]harris447 wrote:
He does this all the time, Irish. he says something which is obviously to be taken sarcastically, then when you call him on his petty little bullshit, he claims he was being serious.
Typical.
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Well, I was, and am outraged. I don’t like the government murdering people, or taking away their rights simply because they don’t agree with the political stance that they have taken.
If you had an ounce of intelligence you would realize that I am NOT being sarcastic.
Then again I think it’s more about hate with you than intelligence. You are just a very bitter nasty guy and that colors every single thing you read!
[quote]ALDurr wrote:
Lorisco wrote:
ALDurr wrote:
ZEB wrote:
Professor X wrote:
Don’t give him so much credit. He also didn’t know there had been any fairly recent lynchings in America.
More proof positve that you enjoy twisting the truth.
I asked:
When was the last time a black person was “lynched” in the south?
A name and a date is what I’m looking for.
Thank you
I know you dispise facts, and look at them as your enemy and something to be twisted.
But, as all can see I was asking as a point of fact.
By the way how is your …(cough) medical practice going?
Busy?
Zeb,
June 7, 1998, the persons name was James Byrd and it happened in the state of Texas. (I thought ProfX said this already, but I’ll write it anyway.)
Although, since the man was dragged behind a truck with a rope around his neck and the rope was not around a tree, I guess you could technically say that it wasn’t a “lynching” in the traditional sense. However, all of the elements of a traditional lynching were present: asshole racist white males, violence and hatred for entertainment purposes and a dead black person.
To your point though, I haven’t heard of any black people being hung from trees lately, so I guess, technically, you are right.
As an aside, I am surprised that this thread is still getting any play on it.
Was that done because of the color of his skin or because of some other reason?
When it came to trial it was ruled as a hate crime.[/quote]
They should tie those who did that to the back of a truck and see how they like it!
[quote]BostonBarrister wrote:
Irish, are you accusing the U.S. government of assassinating MLK, Jr.? This thread is getting far too wacky.[/quote]
BB,
Quite honestly I would not put anything past certain federal law enforcement agencies, especially back then.
I’ll let it go at that.
[quote]ALDurr wrote:
doogie wrote:
doogie wrote:
Using race crimes as evidence of ongoing white racism in America is probably not the best arguement liberals have.
ALDurr wrote:
What was the point of this post?
That sentence isn’t crystal clear?
Maybe I didn’t make it clear what I was asking. What was the purpose of the post? ZEB asked a question and I gave him an answer. I wasn’t using race crimes as evidence of ongoing white racism in America. I simply answered a question.
By the way, whenever someone mentions race as a problem in America, they are automatically labelled as a liberal. Why? Do you self-proclaimed conservatives think that race is not a factor in the running of this country? Probably not, because you are all white males and it doesn’t personally affect you. Yes, I realize that I am projecting an answer for you, but I am going by what you all post regularly.
For the record, I am not a liberal. In many ways, I am more conservative than many of you on this board. (I could get personal based on many things posted on various areas on these boards, but I won’t) I just know what I do and do not like, period.
Is it possible that you self-proclaimed conservatives have such little imagination that the only way you can deal with people is that you have to compartmentalize them and slap your label on them before your mind can deal with them? Or, is it just you all like starting shit and that is not how you really view things at all?[/quote]
I don’t know that I’m a self-proclaimed conservative, but the reason those talking about racism in the US frequently get labeled as liberal is because liberals typically use race as means of moving their agenda. I don’t believe they really care about race other than how they can use it to their advantage. This does not seem to be the case for the conservative party. You rarely see them trying to pull the race card to push their agenda.
So because liberals use race so often to manipulate, it would be a natural assumption to jump to when someone is talking about racism.
[quote]ZEB wrote:
FightinIrish26 wrote:
That is an outrage!
I am writing my Congressman.
You asked. I provided. I don’t care what you think about it.
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My apologies. I thought you were being facetious with the “outrage” comment, hence my reply.
Sorry bout that.
[quote]BostonBarrister wrote:
Irish, are you accusing the U.S. government of assassinating MLK, Jr.? This thread is getting far too wacky.[/quote]
Am I suggesting it? Not particularly.
But would I be surprised in any way shape or form if it came out that the government had? Absolutely not.
I would put absolutely nothing past J. Edgar Hoover’s FBI. Especially with the COINTELPRO program.
Of course, I’ve wondered for years why anyone who rose to lead the blacks got assassinated, in some way. If there was a time when the government was more corrupt and racist than they were in the 60s, I’d be surprised.
[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
BostonBarrister wrote:
Irish, are you accusing the U.S. government of assassinating MLK, Jr.? This thread is getting far too wacky.
Am I suggesting it? Not particularly.
But would I be surprised in any way shape or form if it came out that the government had? Absolutely not.
I would put absolutely nothing past J. Edgar Hoover’s FBI. Especially with the COINTELPRO program.
Of course, I’ve wondered for years why anyone who rose to lead the blacks got assassinated, in some way. If there was a time when the government was more corrupt and racist than they were in the 60s, I’d be surprised.[/quote]
After the Tuskeegee Experiment, why the hell would anyone be surprised that the US government could be capable of that? Mind you, that is just what we know about so far.
[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
ZEB wrote:
FightinIrish26 wrote:
That is an outrage!
I am writing my Congressman.
You asked. I provided. I don’t care what you think about it.
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My apologies. I thought you were being facetious with the “outrage” comment, hence my reply.
Sorry bout that.
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Don’t worry about it. It’s not easy to determine someones “tone” on the Internet.
But keep in mind as we move along that I have always been skeptical of “federal police.”
And I am not at all a fan of “Homeland Security.” I don’t think we needed yet another federal police organization.
I could go on and on…
[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
BostonBarrister wrote:
Irish, are you accusing the U.S. government of assassinating MLK, Jr.? This thread is getting far too wacky.
Am I suggesting it? Not particularly.
But would I be surprised in any way shape or form if it came out that the government had? Absolutely not.
I would put absolutely nothing past J. Edgar Hoover’s FBI. Especially with the COINTELPRO program.
Of course, I’ve wondered for years why anyone who rose to lead the blacks got assassinated, in some way. If there was a time when the government was more corrupt and racist than they were in the 60s, I’d be surprised.[/quote]
No question about that!
(I am not being sarcastic
[quote]ZEB wrote:
harris447 wrote:
He does this all the time, Irish. he says something which is obviously to be taken sarcastically, then when you call him on his petty little bullshit, he claims he was being serious.
Typical.
Well, I was, and am outraged. I don’t like the government murdering people, or taking away their rights simply because they don’t agree with the political stance that they have taken.
If you had an ounce of intelligence you would realize that I am NOT being sarcastic.
Then again I think it’s more about hate with you than intelligence. You are just a very bitter nasty guy and that colors every single thing you read!
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Wow. I was exactly right. This is the third thread you’ve done this on in a week.
Are you actually writing your congressman?
[quote]harris447 wrote:
ZEB wrote:
harris447 wrote:
He does this all the time, Irish. he says something which is obviously to be taken sarcastically, then when you call him on his petty little bullshit, he claims he was being serious.
Typical.
Well, I was, and am outraged. I don’t like the government murdering people, or taking away their rights simply because they don’t agree with the political stance that they have taken.
If you had an ounce of intelligence you would realize that I am NOT being sarcastic.
Then again I think it’s more about hate with you than intelligence. You are just a very bitter nasty guy and that colors every single thing you read!
Wow. I was exactly right. This is the third thread you’ve done this on in a week.
Are you actually writing your congressman?[/quote]
Done what?
Agreed with something that was “anti government?”
I think you get an idea of what a group of people are like and then you cast certain ideas toward that group.
Basically you stereotype. You should stop that.
And no I’m not writing my Congressman. I am going to call him. I know the man and would like some answers.
[quote]ZEB wrote:
Basically you stereotype. You should stop that.
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Good advice. Maybe you should actually follow it sometime.
[quote]Guttus Gumptuous wrote:
Any white T-Maggers who will move into a non white neighborhood or send their kids to a non-white school, preferably black, come forward![/quote]
Although he was probably being sarcastic, he has brought up a good point. I doubt that many of them would do this, even though there are many nice, affluent non-white neighborhoods in America. I doubt that they could handle it. In fact, the only one that I would believe could handle it is Rainjack. This is based on what he has said in the past about how he grew up. The rest of them couldn’t deal with not being the majority in their neighborhood.
[quote]ALDurr wrote:
Guttus Gumptuous wrote:
Any white T-Maggers who will move into a non white neighborhood or send their kids to a non-white school, preferably black, come forward!
Although he was probably being sarcastic, he has brought up a good point. I doubt that many of them would do this, even though there are many nice, affluent non-white neighborhoods in America. I doubt that they could handle it. In fact, the only one that I would believe could handle it is Rainjack. This is based on what he has said in the past about how he grew up. The rest of them couldn’t deal with not being the majority in their neighborhood.[/quote]
I haven’t been in the majority in my neighborhood, city, or county in over 7 years. My kids attend schools that are 99% Hispanic. It almost seems like Guttus Gumptuous is implying minority neighborhoods and schools must be inferior.
[quote]ALDurr wrote:
ZEB wrote:
Basically you stereotype. You should stop that.
Good advice. Maybe you should actually follow it sometime.[/quote]
Give me one instance where I have stereotyped.
[quote]ALDurr wrote:
The rest of them couldn’t deal with not being the majority in their neighborhood.[/quote]
That reads like a sterotype!
[quote]ZEB wrote:
That reads like a sterotype! [/quote]
Whatever that is.
[quote]doogie wrote:
ALDurr wrote:
Guttus Gumptuous wrote:
Any white T-Maggers who will move into a non white neighborhood or send their kids to a non-white school, preferably black, come forward!
Although he was probably being sarcastic, he has brought up a good point. I doubt that many of them would do this, even though there are many nice, affluent non-white neighborhoods in America. I doubt that they could handle it. In fact, the only one that I would believe could handle it is Rainjack. This is based on what he has said in the past about how he grew up. The rest of them couldn’t deal with not being the majority in their neighborhood.
I haven’t been in the majority in my neighborhood, city, or county in over 7 years. My kids attend schools that are 99% Hispanic. It almost seems like Guttus Gumptuous is implying minority neighborhoods and schools must be inferior. [/quote]
Well, you came forward and you are honest. AND, you are an exception. In fact, if you were not an exception, hence the reason why your kids’ schools are 99% Hispanic (and I am assuming that this Hispanic label means mestizo or Native Americans, considering that the only real Hispanics are Europeans with Spanish ancestry; sorry for being anal).
If you were not an exception, then more like you would indeed be sending their kids to non white schools and blending into non white neighborhoods to speed up the diversity process.
Look, I am from Queens, NY, the most diverse community in the entire USA. I have and still do deal with every race or racial mixture under the sun. I do not particularly hate anyone or put my standards of living on anyone else.
Yes, I will not lie. Despite my sarcasm on this board, I am a humane, peaceful person with no aims or hurting anyone mentally or physically. Besides, I just have too many things in my life to focus on nutty stuff to the point where it would necessitate any substantial energy from myself.
But back to where I will not lie. I do think from my exposure to the neighborhoods of and races and mongrel races residing in Queens, that I did acquire a more radical view of society than many members on this board. It is not meant to be over-the-top for the sake of it, nutty, intimidating or scary. But I will say this, yes, I think neighborhoods in Queens are indeed inferior to the neighborhood I live.
I don’t know, am I nuts for thinking that my crime free, graffiti free, peaceful, sanitary, hygenic neighborhood is SUPERIOR to some of the crime infested, gang laden, graffiti laden, trash laden, drug laden, noisy, non-hygenic, virtual garbage dumps of neighborhoods?
And yes, many of the latter neighborhoods are made up of more non whites that my neighborhood and the more peaceful, crime free neighborhoods in Queens. And that is the way it is? I want to know, is it really crazy for my peers and I to come to conclusions from the observations of these neighborhoods and the people residing in them. Personally, I do not dislike the people residing in these neighborhoods. I simply look at it as “this is who they are and this is their way of doing things and it is not my way of doing things and their ways do not blend well with mine”. (Sorry for the run on sentence.)
And this leads me to this: why do some normal, non-curse worse words so bad to use these days? I mean if someone is inferior or something is inferior to someone else, then so be it. You, I am a relatively inferior bencher. I can only bench about 300 and change at 200 lbs. I would say I am inferior to Ryan Kennelly’s 900+ bench press. I would say a low-life criminal drug dealer is inferior to a hard working, peaceful, well meaning, humane person such as myself.
And also, aside from you, the exception, it is not an exception for predominantly non white school and neighborhood populations to indeed treat whites for who they are: WHITE. We can talk peace on here all we want, and I would like full peace on this earth, but if you go to a non white school or neighborhood you are a “white-boy” or a “white-girl”, NOT a boy or a girl.
I saw this from FREQUENT observation, my experience, others’ experience, and just plain old being a human being in Queens. I am not even full white. I am Jewish. I just pass for white because of pale skin, blue eyes, dirty blonde hair, and some caucasion features.
I personally hope that the hardcore flavor of T-mag will allow this to be posted as it is not malicious but reality as I have experienced it.