Everyone Must Watch This

[quote]Schlenkatank wrote:
John S. wrote:
Schlenkatank wrote:
John S. wrote:
pittbulll wrote:
Glen beck has SHIT for a brain. I listened to half of it, he is so uninformed, UN thought provoking, I do not understand how any one could think he was even of average intelligence. He is a true troll.

You attack the man not the facts, that’s very interesting.

Not really, it’s very common on this site. I’ll try to do a good job explaining the first post in a bit, it may take a while.

Please do, but please don’t hesitate to tell me what he was saying in the last video I posted.

I don’t have the time to make a good post until sunday. Maybe someone who knows a little bit about the type of “reform” the speaker is referring to can argue for a while (you did notice he never explicitly said what the reforms were). He’s mainly talking about energy and agriculture reform and the opportunities we have as a society to right the wrongs in our failing energy sources, despicable food industry, and how this inter plays with ethnicity. The analogy he used was explaining that simply adding renewable energy (solar panel) to these failing systems still leaves us with a bad system. There are a lot of industries particularly dealing with food that are currently on a path destined for
failure.

The fact that Beck didn’t acknowledge that perspective was nothing short of shameful.[/quote]

You sir are woefully uninformed.

[quote]John S. wrote:
Screw it, I will give you just a bit more.

Would you like me to bring up him being a 9/11 truther?[/quote]

Somthing kinda funny he said in the beginning of this was we need to do somthing about the joblessness. How about we start drilling in Anwar, that would open up a few jobs right there.Maybe if the unions got out of the auto industry 10 years ago they would have been able to compete and wouldn’t have had to shut down.

You know somthing…even without Beck’s interjection the things Van Jones are saying are clearly anti- American, and communist. It’s also obvious he hasnt doe his research when it comes to solor power. A solar powered bulldozer? Yeah right.

In order to power this nation with solar you would have to cover the state of Arizona and it still wouldnt work at night.The suns light also degrades the panels so they would have to be replaced often.What I really think is crazy is that white people support this guy. Personally I think that if he had his way all the wealth in this nation would be taken away from whites and given to non whites.

[quote]jawara wrote:
You know somthing…even without Beck’s interjection the things Van Jones are saying are clearly anti- American, and communist. It’s also obvious he hasnt doe his research when it comes to solor power. A solar powered bulldozer? Yeah right.

In order to power this nation with solar you would have to cover the state of Arizona and it still wouldnt work at night.The suns light also degrades the panels so they would have to be replaced often.What I really think is crazy is that white people support this guy. Personally I think that if he had his way all the wealth in this nation would be taken away from whites and given to non whites. [/quote]

Beck is totally incidental to all of this beyond being a leader in making it commonly known.

The Van Jones guy is not about energy, solar or otherwise. He says himself what many have known forever. The whole green movement is about neutering American capitalism and taking the knees out of her economy so a righteous communist one can be erected in it’s place. This guy flat out states that. We should thank him.

He says the next step is “eco-capitalism” which is another step to a just, fully redistributed communism, which you can bet your bottom dollar is all about relieving white people of their ill gotten gains and returning it to those they have oppressed. Right on schedule for an Obama administration.

Believe it folks. Whether it’s banks, car companies, insurance companies, medicine or energy. It’s all about the same thing. Gutting what’s left of our free society and turning it over to the ACORNS of the world. They are all just means to that end. I’ve been saying this for 20 years. This is just the latest most in your face example.

[quote]John S. wrote:
pittbulll wrote:
Glen beck has SHIT for a brain. I listened to half of it, he is so uninformed, UN thought provoking, I do not understand how any one could think he was even of average intelligence. He is a true troll.

You attack the man not the facts, that’s very interesting.[/quote]

I attack him because he does not state facts; He acts as though conserving water is stupid. It is a major issue and if the west does not have major water supply issues in the next 5 years I will be very surprise. I attack the man because he is a dim wit, that grand stands about anything Obama does. Listen to the original post you made I had to listen to 5 minutes of his commentary to get a 5 second sentence from the man he was criticizing.

[quote]MaximusB wrote:
pittbulll wrote:
Glen beck has SHIT for a brain. I listened to half of it, he is so uninformed, UN thought provoking, I do not understand how any one could think he was even of average intelligence. He is a true troll.

Dude with all due respect, he has alot of his info backed by either video or written documentation. What he had with Van Jones today was pretty disturbing, and he had it on video. I try to avoid conspiracy type of thinking, but you cannot deny verified truth. [/quote]

I will force myself to listen to his whole spiel then critique his spiel line by line, but first let me get a barf bag:)

[quote]MaximusB wrote:
pittbulll wrote:
Glen beck has SHIT for a brain. I listened to half of it, he is so uninformed, UN thought provoking, I do not understand how any one could think he was even of average intelligence. He is a true troll.

Dude with all due respect, he has alot of his info backed by either video or written documentation. What he had with Van Jones today was pretty disturbing, and he had it on video. I try to avoid conspiracy type of thinking, but you cannot deny verified truth. [/quote]

With all due respect

At 3 minutes 9 seconds he lets a 30 second sound bite that was mostly indecipherable. And what is decipherable is that we need to change the system so we do not make solar powered forest clearing machines. That we need to use less water and not pollute

He reminds me of an old Pentecostal Preacher. Pissing and moaning about the
RADICAL > REVOLUTIONARY > COMUNIST > MARCISTS > SOCIALIST > RACIST.

Then he gets into reparations, you may not agree with Van Jones , I do not totally. But in our past we did conquer and take the land from the Indians. Even after we had treaties with them we would take their land and forcibly move them if it were to our advantage.

Then at 9 minutes he gets into the wrong agriculture, we do have the wrong agriculture. We have too much corn, they have modified it .We feed it to livestock and to people though soda pop. Diabetes and obesity are the result.

Then he gets into the Tuskegee experiment and act as though it is a lie. It happened and America should feel shame for it.

Then he gets back into GREEN JOBS. He can criticize Van Jones all he wants, but the only job Obama has appointed him to be the creation of green jobs. That is allâ?¦.

Then he gets into the F.B.I. what the hell he wants them to investigate. What did his staff of 7 discover? Glen Beck is a dick head.

The only thing I can think is his fans have never been exposed to Pentecostal preachers or they liked them.

Just because I can, Let me show you the proof he is a 9-11 truther too.

http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2009/09/van-jones-linked-to-9-11-truther.html?spref=tw

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2009/09/another-possible-link-emerges-between-top-obama-official-and-911-truther-movement.html

Looks like ABC is going to be digging into this too. Maybe they too realize whats going on.

http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/53534

Cass Sunsein

[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
Schlenkatank wrote:
<<< The fact that Beck didn’t acknowledge that perspective was nothing short of shameful.

The fact that you somehow found that perspective there is nothing short of mystifying. [/quote]

Look, the fact of the matter is this man doesn’t run the country. He’s in charge of one thing and one thing only: creating jobs that increase our harmony with the environment while insuring that we have sustainable enterprises within the fields of agriculture, production, the meat industry, etc.

He does not control taxation or any of the cornerstones of this country which would affect the American ideals.

If he were to simply create jobs by adding renewable energy sources and cleaner energy sources to the systems mentioned above, we would still be left with failing systems. What his job should be is to create jobs that respect the humanity of it’s workers, create long lasting sustainable economy, and ensure that America has many long good years ahead of her.

Communist or not, one thing you really can’t argue about is what needs to happen in our food industries, and energy resources.

Um, isnt he in charge of cap and trade? I would think its kinda important to know whether or not he is a communist…

[quote]Gregus wrote:
Schlenkatank wrote:
John S. wrote:
Schlenkatank wrote:
John S. wrote:
pittbulll wrote:

You sir are woefully uninformed. [/quote]

Yes well, I’ll believe that when you tell me the basic tenets of sustainability and what that means to a green jobs organizer. Without googling it.

But to be honest, I would guess the OP, Tiribulus, and most everybody on this board doesn’t know what it is or thinks it’s bullshit. I’m here to tell you that it’s not.

[quote]Schlenkatank wrote:
Gregus wrote:
Schlenkatank wrote:
John S. wrote:
Schlenkatank wrote:
John S. wrote:
pittbulll wrote:

You sir are woefully uninformed.

Yes well, I’ll believe that when you tell me the basic tenets of sustainability and what that means to a green jobs organizer. Without googling it.

But to be honest, I would guess the OP, Tiribulus, and most everybody on this board doesn’t know what it is or thinks it’s bullshit. I’m here to tell you that it’s not.[/quote]

Well,dude I see your point…but it’s pointing the wrong direction…lol. Nobody is arguing against what a Green Jobs czar…or whatever they call it can bring to the table. These guys just see what I see myself as a non-Republican(I don’t call myself a Democrat either…as I don’t have a political affiliation.)

that the chosen guy has an ill-advised agenda and it’s not green jobs…or the “environment.” Van Jones has unfortunately(or fortunately however you look at it) made this too clear.

[quote]MikeyKBiatch wrote:
Communist or not, one thing you really can’t argue about is what needs to happen in our food industries, and energy resources.

Um, isnt he in charge of cap and trade? I would think its kinda important to know whether or not he is a communist…[/quote]

“I want you to hear some new audio from the green jobs czar, specific adviser to the president for green jobs, or whatever they want to call him” - beck

I think because of the radical spirit behind the communist philosophy if he were a communist he would have said it by now. He identifies himself as an eco capitalist, which simply means he would like to see our capitalist foundations made sustainable and healthier for our planet.

One thing I’m concerned about is that he accomplishes this in the right way. Too fast, or too slow, there could be issues.

[quote]Big_Boss wrote:
Schlenkatank wrote:
Gregus wrote:
Schlenkatank wrote:
John S. wrote:
Schlenkatank wrote:
John S. wrote:
pittbulll wrote:

You sir are woefully uninformed.

Yes well, I’ll believe that when you tell me the basic tenets of sustainability and what that means to a green jobs organizer. Without googling it.

But to be honest, I would guess the OP, Tiribulus, and most everybody on this board doesn’t know what it is or thinks it’s bullshit. I’m here to tell you that it’s not.

Well,dude I see your point…but it’s pointing the wrong direction…lol. Nobody is arguing against what a Green Jobs czar…or whatever they call it can bring to the table. These guys just see what I see myself as a non-Republican(I don’t call myself a Democrat either…as I don’t have a political affiliation.)

that the chosen guy has an ill-advised agenda and it’s not green jobs…or the “environment.” Van Jones has unfortunately(or fortunately however you look at it) made this too clear.

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Thank you Boss. You are absolutely correct. He has overtly stated that the “green” agenda is a front for transforming the United States into a communist nation. Not in guarded, shadowy, coded language, but in the plainest, most brazenly open terms possible.

Now, you have got to ask yourself. What if he was chosen exactly BECAUSE that is his view? Just what if? I contend, as I have since his announcing his candidacy, that this has been the explicit mission of Barack and Michelle Obama and that the black liberation theology church he spent 20 years in is, but one piece of evidence. This is what that whole world view all about.

I studied liberation theology, though it’s been a while. It is flat out marxism wrapped in biblical terminology. It is not Christian by any historical definition. It is social and economic marxism in a deceptive Christian package.

What we’re seeing right now is exactly why some of us were begging people to take his relationship with Wright seriously. The green agenda, stimulus, bailouts, cap n trade, healthcare etc. are all weapons in this arsenal for “transforming America”. What in the name of all that’s reasonable does “transform” mean?

[quote]Schlenkatank wrote:
MikeyKBiatch wrote:
Communist or not, one thing you really can’t argue about is what needs to happen in our food industries, and energy resources.

Um, isnt he in charge of cap and trade? I would think its kinda important to know whether or not he is a communist…

“I want you to hear some new audio from the green jobs czar, specific adviser to the president for green jobs, or whatever they want to call him” - beck

I think because of the radical spirit behind the communist philosophy if he were a communist he would have said it by now. He identifies himself as an eco capitalist, which simply means he would like to see our capitalist foundations made sustainable and healthier for our planet.

One thing I’m concerned about is that he accomplishes this in the right way. Too fast, or too slow, there could be issues.[/quote]

You ARE in there right? He has said it!!! He declares… outright… that eco-capitalism is but a step in the direction of the communism which is his ultimate goal. HE said that. In the plainest most impossible to misunderstand terms imaginable.

He is a very intelligent man. All these people are. They are carrying out a plan that has been in the works since at least the 60’s. This has nothing to do with Glen Beck or Rush Limbaugh et al. Many Americans, including myself have been warning about this incremental bloodless coup for decades.

What Van Jones comes down to is one of two things.

  1. He believe what Obama believes.

  2. The FBI failed at vetting him.

Either one of these should scare you.

[quote]John S. wrote:
What Van Jones comes down to is one of two things.

  1. He believe what Obama believes.

  2. The FBI failed at vetting him.

Either one of these should scare you.[/quote]

Absolutely correct, but I promise it was the first. Valerie Jarrett owns this guy with veneration and affection declaring herself how closely she has followed his carreer. She is maybe the single most influential person in the Obama’s life. She even went with them on their recent vacation.

[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
John S. wrote:
What Van Jones comes down to is one of two things.

  1. He believe what Obama believes.

  2. The FBI failed at vetting him.

Either one of these should scare you.

Absolutely correct, but I promise it was the first. Valerie Jarrett owns this guy with veneration and affection declaring herself how closely she has followed his carreer. She is maybe the single most influential person in the Obama’s life. She even went with them on their recent vacation.[/quote]

I believe it is the first one, but if people think its the FBI then we will get some new people in to look through all his Czars and who knows what else we will find.

[quote]John S. wrote:
Tiribulus wrote:
John S. wrote:
What Van Jones comes down to is one of two things.

  1. He believe what Obama believes.

  2. The FBI failed at vetting him.

Either one of these should scare you.

Absolutely correct, but I promise it was the first. Valerie Jarrett owns this guy with veneration and affection declaring herself how closely she has followed his carreer. She is maybe the single most influential person in the Obama’s life. She even went with them on their recent vacation.

I believe it is the first one, but if people think its the FBI then we will get some new people in to look through all his Czars and who knows what else we will find.
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All 36? They’ll have to recruit help from MI6.