[quote]2busy wrote:
Cranking your blood iron level up using dessicated beef liver has a similar effect.
Or donating plasma causes an artificial increase in the ration of red blood cells.
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Is this shit gonna put 50lbs on my pull?
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
okay
Frog Legs Dancing With A Little Salt - YouTube!
explain this shit[/quote]
Salt (sodium) ions act the same as applying electrical current to muscle fibers.
Interesting… probably one of the reasons the dudes on this site who make it to Colorado to train with CT get such gains in a short time.
[quote]2busy wrote:
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
okay
Frog Legs Dancing With A Little Salt - YouTube!
explain this shit[/quote]
Salt (sodium) ions act the same as applying electrical current to muscle fibers.[/quote]
How tho? Salt tastes good. Outside of that how does it cause a pseudo electrical current?
Also, why haven’t you mentioned how smart you were before this?
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]2busy wrote:
Cranking your blood iron level up using dessicated beef liver has a similar effect.
Or donating plasma causes an artificial increase in the ration of red blood cells.
[/quote]
Is this shit gonna put 50lbs on my pull?[/quote]
The beef liver could. It’s an old school strength supplement.
It helped with putting more muscle on me. And I noticed a huge increase in aerobic recovery while playing hockey.
Vince Gironda had a high opinion of it.
I know! Im hella impressed with 2busy’s brain.
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]Dasher wrote:
[quote]Heracles_rocks wrote:
I do know what altitude training is. Colorado springs is a popular destination for training at higher altitudes.
But Dash, how exactly does it help with training. Does it affect the mitochondria or does it affect the erythocytes and how many there are?[/quote]
Actually, very good question! Its still kinda “up in the air” scientifically (or so this speaker told us) as to what exact mechanism is responsible for the athletic gains, but many site that the increased red blood cell volume is key. At higher altitudes, oxygen hemoglobin saturation is decreased. When this happens, EPO (Which is the culprit when you hear about ‘blood doping’) secreted by the kidneys stimulates bone marrow to produce red blood cells in an attempt to increase hemoglobin levels and oxygen delivery.[/quote]
WAT?[/quote]
Beans,
Basically at higher elevations there is less oxygen for your red blood cells, muscles and etc. So to be able to adapt and perform normally your body will start producing more red blood cells which carry oxygen in your blood. So having more red blood cells to carry oxygen can help with performance at lower altitudes because you can use more oxygen and have more stamina and last longer in endurance training before you hit the wall so to speak.
EPO is the stuff that cyclists use to dope, among other things. As Dash said it is the hormone your kidneys release naturally to produce erythrocytes or red blood cells.
Nice 2busy. That is also one of the reasons the organ meats were valued by western settlers for its high vitamin and mineral count.
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]2busy wrote:
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
okay
Frog Legs Dancing With A Little Salt - YouTube!
explain this shit[/quote]
Salt (sodium) ions act the same as applying electrical current to muscle fibers.[/quote]
How tho? Salt tastes good. Outside of that how does it cause a pseudo electrical current?
Also, why haven’t you mentioned how smart you were before this?[/quote]
Sodium ions are used with tissue to help generate electical pulses for nerve signals.
It’s also why you can use salt water to make a battery.
I read a lot and have a good memory, Beans.
so much learning goin on!!!
but gross x 1000 on that frog leg situation.
[quote]Heracles_rocks wrote:
Beans,
Basically at higher elevations there is less oxygen for your red blood cells, muscles and etc. So to be able to adapt and perform normally your body will start producing more red blood cells which carry oxygen in your blood. So having more red blood cells to carry oxygen can help with performance at lower altitudes because you can use more oxygen and have more stamina and last longer in endurance training before you hit the wall so to speak.
EPO is the stuff that cyclists use to dope, among other things. As Dash said it is the hormone your kidneys release naturally to produce erythrocytes or red blood cells. [/quote]
Thank you for translating that to meathead for me.
I don’t need that outside of widowmakers, which I’m not doing right now… So…
[quote]2busy wrote:
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]2busy wrote:
Cranking your blood iron level up using dessicated beef liver has a similar effect.
Or donating plasma causes an artificial increase in the ration of red blood cells.
[/quote]
Is this shit gonna put 50lbs on my pull?[/quote]
The beef liver could. It’s an old school strength supplement.
It helped with putting more muscle on me. And I noticed a huge increase in aerobic recovery while playing hockey.
Vince Gironda had a high opinion of it.
http://www.davedraper.com/fusionbb/showtopic.php?tid/4594/
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You obvi know what the liver’s function is… And you expect me to eat the bodies trashcan?
shudder
I might gag some down for 50lbs on my pull in two weeks, but if it doesn’t work I’ll be pissed.
[quote]Heracles_rocks wrote:
Nice 2busy. That is also one of the reasons the organ meats were valued by western settlers for its high vitamin and mineral count. [/quote]
That has gone on even before that.
Predators tend to eat the liver first.
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
You obvi know what the liver’s function is… And you expect me to eat the bodies trashcan?
shudder
I might gag some down for 50lbs on my pull in two weeks, but if it doesn’t work I’ll be pissed.[/quote]
Taking it as pills is a LOT better then eating it.
You cant just take iron as a mineral supplement, it’s actually poisonous.
But once it’s processed into heme-iron, you can consume it.
[quote]2busy wrote:
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
You obvi know what the liver’s function is… And you expect me to eat the bodies trashcan?
shudder
I might gag some down for 50lbs on my pull in two weeks, but if it doesn’t work I’ll be pissed.[/quote]
Taking it as pills is a LOT better then eating it.[/quote]
Haha yes, but it still smells. I tried doing that for awhile, i think i got up to 20-30 of the liver tabs. But i stopped, they kept making me gag everytime i would take them.
[quote]scj119 wrote:
Interesting… probably one of the reasons the dudes on this site who make it to Colorado to train with CT get such gains in a short time.[/quote]
Wait a minute… Tried and true endurance training works for weight training too? Will cross training come back in to fashion? Not as crossfit though, of course.
[quote]Heracles_rocks wrote:
[quote]2busy wrote:
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
You obvi know what the liver’s function is… And you expect me to eat the bodies trashcan?
shudder
I might gag some down for 50lbs on my pull in two weeks, but if it doesn’t work I’ll be pissed.[/quote]
Taking it as pills is a LOT better then eating it.[/quote]
Haha yes, but it still smells. I tried doing that for awhile, i think i got up to 20-30 of the liver tabs. But i stopped, they kept making me gag everytime i would take them. [/quote]
FML… How much did it add to your total?
[quote]2busy wrote:
Predators tend to eat the liver first.[/quote]
BINGO! now we are talkin useful information!
wait, what?
[quote]2busy wrote:
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]2busy wrote:
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
okay
Frog Legs Dancing With A Little Salt - YouTube!
explain this shit[/quote]
Salt (sodium) ions act the same as applying electrical current to muscle fibers.[/quote]
How tho? Salt tastes good. Outside of that how does it cause a pseudo electrical current?
Also, why haven’t you mentioned how smart you were before this?[/quote]
Sodium ions are used with tissue to help generate electical pulses for nerve signals.
It’s also why you can use salt water to make a battery.
I read a lot and have a good memory, Beans.
[/quote]
Sweet, sweet conductivity. The whole body runs on electricity thru the nervous system, yes? Salt also increases synapses activity in the brain?
[quote]Heracles_rocks wrote:
[quote]2busy wrote:
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
You obvi know what the liver’s function is… And you expect me to eat the bodies trashcan?
shudder
I might gag some down for 50lbs on my pull in two weeks, but if it doesn’t work I’ll be pissed.[/quote]
Taking it as pills is a LOT better then eating it.[/quote]
Haha yes, but it still smells. I tried doing that for awhile, i think i got up to 20-30 of the liver tabs. But i stopped, they kept making me gag everytime i would take them. [/quote]
What brand did you use? From what I read there is a lot of difference between brands.
I used to take 24 a day from the brand I used without no gaging issues.