T-MEN: We love our kazaa and morpheus but the music industry doesn’t. Does anybody know how to have your cake and eat it to - to download and not be sued??? I heard that if you configure computer to keep people from uploading from you it would keep the man off your back. If anybody knows how to do this please reply - lumbernac
To avoid showing up on the RIAA radar I would suggest:
A) Make sure not to keep your music in your P2P shared folder, once you’ve downloaded something move it to another folder that isn’t shared in any way.
B) When you arent using the P2P service make sure that it is killed, most such as Kaazaa continue to run, check in the bottom right and make sure to kill it.
C) Hidden Processes! Get rid of them, most P2P apps like Kazaa run lots of fairly intrusive processes even when the P2P app itself isn’t running. Ctrl Alt Del and pick the processes tab, I bet you find one called “P2P services” or similar in addition to a few others. Most of these will start after reboot to so make sure to get rid of them when you’re not using your P2P app.
D) Don’t download much. Hop on, quickly download a few songs you want, then kill the app and processes, and move the files. then stay off the service for a few days.
E) Make use of imac’s download service, it’s pretty cool.
F) Make sure that you have a good firewall, BlackIce and Zonealarm are okay. Heh, I actually have a PIX 515 at my perimeter, although that’s a bit overkill…
Or you could just buck up and pay for music.
I’m sure you appreciate getting paid for your work.
Granted record companies are fat, but they just slashed prices on discs…
What Warhorse said. Why not just sack up and pay for what you want?
Or is that idea too, I don’t know, difficult to handle?
yes it’s to difficult to handle!. I love music to much.I buy cds from time to time, but i can’t buy all the cds i want.
CHAR: Paying for a full album wouldn`t be bad if albums were loaded with good stuff.
P2P has one advantage: You can test the goods before buying the album. Anyway, the quality is usually so low (256k sampling is rare) that any good ear will hear the difference when it is burned on a CD. Therefore, any quality/real fan will have to buy it nevertheless (if he wants it quickly).
Albums with more than 3-4 good songs on them are not the norm.
I like the 1-dollar-a-tune-download concept, though. Is it only available on Apple`s machine?
(And, even there, I wonder in which format they send it. One could expect that some will pay for it and send it to their P2P folders for sharing…that is, unless they encripted the buyers info somewhere in the song, so that they could trace back the root sharer. If I was a record exec, Id do it, very much like steganography can hide much in harmless web pictures.)
Char -
I hardly ever pay for CDs since most of them contain one or two good songs and the rest are garbage.
I only pay for CDs that I know contain mostly good tracks or classical music CDs by performers and/or orchestras that I like.
There are people who know right from wrong, and there are people who can rationalize anything.
Either way you look at it, its illegal because they said so. So don’t complain when you get a subpoena(sp?).
They can suck it as far as I’m concerned. Its penance for years of price fixing cds & cassettes
I love the “most CD’s only have one or two good songs on them” argument. You ever try listening to the rest of the CD more than say, oh, I don’t know, once?
DEMODICK: Actually, I came to that conclusion after having bought a good bunch of CDs based on the this and that song are good, the rest of the album must be premise and more often than not feeling ripped off. Got tired of paying for air.
Asides artists like Paul McCartney and the few who do it all by and for themselves (as author, composer and interpret), or who complete themselves as a band (for example Megadeth is rather constant in delivery), you have many chances of the said artist/band drumming to somebody else`s beat. So you have even less guarantee that what you like was representative (gutswise) of what you liked in the first place.
If the artist is only good as 2 tunes, he will be paid respectively in a per-tune world. If he is that great (10 tunes per album), then hell pocket even more money from me. He cant lose. If he has a different opinion, he can always go to Quebec, where artists are subsidized and unionized, whatever talent or sales they have.
And, if it was to me, the money would go straight to the artist. There are two many layers who grease themselves between my wallet and the artist. And that greasy is not spread out evenly either. Like some exec deserves it more than the main artist…yeah right.
I don’t use Kazaa it sucks ass. Lot of virus ect. I am not telling the rest of the world what I use though. I just downloaded the whole new Iron Madien album and DMX’s new album Grand Champ.
Nearly every store in America will let you listen to a CD before you buy it. If you don’t like it all, just don’t buy it. Stealing it is not justified.
If you don’t think that an album is worth what a store is charging for it, then don’t buy the album. It’s pretty simple. If you do think that those 3 or 4 songs are worth the money, then buy the album. I don’t see what the problem is.
As for record execs making more than the artist, I agree that that particular aspect of the industry sucks. However, the record exec should get something, as without the promition, radio spots and everything else, you would likely never have heard the music in the first place if there weren’t someone like the exec doing his job. Furthermore, if you download the album for free, you are not only screwing the exec, you’re screwing the artist. (Or are some of you downloading, then getting into private contact with the artist to give them their cut?)
I also have no objection at all to the $1 per song deal that Apple’s gotten going. It’s a good idea, and hopefully will catch on without some legal crap messing it up.
However, some of the “reasoning” above is just too much to be believed. “I can’t afford all the music I like”?!?!? WTF? You can’t afford all the food and supps you like, so what are you going to do - go out and shoplift? You can’t get all the pussy you like, so are you gonna rape the next chick you see? Some homeless guy doesn’t have all the clothes he wants, so is it okay if he takes yours? Some kid doesn’t have enough lunch money, so can he take yours from you?
For Christ’s sake.
Look, all you do when you steal someone’s work is make it that much less likely that that artist - who you obviously like, since you want their stuff - will put out something new in the future. I know, because right at the moment I’m thinking about putting together a CD full of hints on how to learn English if you’re not a native speaker. I think that there’s a good market for this, and it won’t be that hard to do. But I haven’t done it yet because of precisely this concern. Why on earth should I go to the effort of putting together something that has value when like as not people will buy one and then just copy it to all their friends? Where’s the return on my investment?
There isn’t one, and so until I can be reasonably sure that my stuff will be safe, I’m not going to do it. That’s what happens when people take a product without paying for it.
Good points. Just curious how singles are charged today. Back then, we had 45s, for 3$ each. Nowadays, CD quality singles…? I`ll check it out. Seems the best solution until the 1$ a download becomes mainstream.
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I think a lot of this is in reaction to the way parts of the music industry have been bending the public over for years. Why should they release more than one or two good songs on a CD if it’s not going to appreciably increase record sales? It’s in their favor not to do so. I hope the file swapping has will yield in a more balanced system for the consumer, artist, and record companies.
The $1 per download is, I think, the best option, balancing both the interests of the artist with the interests of the consumer. I really don’t buy CDs anymore, but would be willing to pay for quality downloads of songs that I like.
Is there any way to continue to download music and not get sued?
Not sure, is there any way to continue to walk into a local store and stuff CD’s in your shorts and walk out without getting caught?
The best way to make sure you aren’t going to get busted is to never engage in illegal activity in the first place.
As far as the music industry is concerned, they deserved this. They are interested in controlling a distribution medium and there are many problems with that. As a consumer, I don’t like buying a CD that has a good song on it expecting the entire thing to be good and it sucks. I find that this doesn’t happen very often, but it still happens. I’ll be happy when you can buy “lots” of songs online for maybe .50-$1 a piece depending on how many you want with the ability to pick and choose from any CDs you wish. From an artistic standpoint this might suck for artists because the one hit song wouldn’t necessarily get them heard, but I think from a business standpoint it will improve the quality of the product. Its clear to me the record industry isn’t interested in artists anyway, so this is probably the way to go. Without the CD, the trucks, the stores, and the distribution, the prices should go down (and would when the competition kicked in). Its absurd to have to pay $18 for a CD (retail). A CD’s worth of music should be $7-$10.
Good thing a major record company (Universal I think) dropped their prices 30% recently. Boo hoo for them. I am sure they will still make truckloads of money.