Esters and Aromatisation

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Tried my luck on T replacement section but thought someone on here could help better.

I have read conflicting theories and discussion regarding differences in esters and aromatisation etc, bare in mind I am talking about strictly at TRT doses etc

So shorter esters aromatise less and less anabolic?
Long esters aromatise more and more anabolic?

Have also read a post from a Dr who claims its the opposite, longer esters taken at therapeutic doses are less likely to cause as much aromatisation for people with low shbg as there will not be the same sharp peak as a shorter ester.

Just looking some reliable information on this as I am low shbg and been on TRT for 2 years, just switched from Test E to 100mg weekly of Nebido but could also try 50mg E3.5 days too but if the longer esters cause more aromatisation then may switch back to shorter ester.

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No.

I think the difference in short esters is that you’re injection a smaller amount more often, keeping peaks lower than one large injection. So, e2 doesn’t rise as high because TT hasn’t risen as high.

MG for MG they are probably all the same

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How would they be any less anabolic? It’s the same testosterone as in long esters?

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If you have low SHBG then big shots of longer acting formulations probably isn’t the best idea. Depending on what your SHBG actually is, more frequent would be better

Edit: I apologize these are all in different replies lol. I need to read the whole post before I respond

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I really like T cyp injected M/T to keep my E2 down. That said my SHGB is 15 so even at 100mg/w my E2 is double over range and I have to take micro doses of anastrozole every week.

If I only have T E then do to it having a 4.5 day halflife 3 time a week is needed.

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In Aus we actually can’t get test cyp!! And test E/sustanon can only be given on a private script.

Government subsidised methods of TRT are ironically just as expensive as the private scripts for test E/sustanon

Test E/sustanon is, in my opinion far superior to testosterone undecanoate every 14 weeks, testogel/androgel, pellets, and oral testosterone undecanoate.

I’ve tried test cyp before. Test E/C are virtually interchangeable for me. This makes sense as pharmacokinetics of both testosterone enanthate and testosterone cypionate are almost identical.

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I’d imagine just about any method is better than this

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You’d think so, but oral testosterone undecanoate is the worst of them all despite being used frequently here.

Clinical trials of which were submitted for TGA approval indicate oral test U allows those treated to achieve a testosterone concentration of around 350-400ng/DL… What an amazing treatment… And it’s more expensive than test E, even when subsidized…

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Amazing results!! Haha I’ve wanted to try oral TU before workouts just to see if I get a boost, on top of my very normal TRT

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Oral test U + TRT… It’d probably work in a dose dependent fashion. If you try oral test U, try taking it after eating a somewhat greasy meal.

If you’re at say… 800ng/DL as a cavg and you take enough test U to get up to 1500ng/DL cavg you’d probably notice a difference.

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Greasy meal + heavy weights may equal a bad time lol. But I get it