EQ Dosing with Test

Pharma
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Hey all, I’ve just ran my first cycle of 16 weeks on 500mg TestE and have just had some EQ arrive that I’m looking to try out with the cut I’ve started,

My understanding of it, should be ran at a 2:1 roughly, so is 250mg a week (split into 2, 125 Mon/125 Thurs which is how I split the Test) good? Someone on reddit mentioned you should start super low (50mg/wk) but that seems ridiculously low and much more of a faf to dose than 0.5ml when the vials are 250mg/ml.

TLDR:

500mg TestE

250mg EQ

Split Mon/Thurs sound good?

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yup go from there and assess tolerance. however if you’ve just finished your first cycle, look to take a good amount of time to recover - or cruise if you’re not coming off.

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I’ve just picked up a bunch of test to carry on for maybe another 12-16 weeks while adding eq then hit pct for I imagine at least 6 months from there, maybe start cruising next year I must admit do love being on..

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Any idea what your E2 is on 500mg test @Hazuki, either with or without an AI (with AI dosing if used)? That might help to inform a bit better starting point for EQ as it does seem to carry pretty potent AI effects in most people.

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So I’ve been running 250mg Test each mon/thurs, with it I’ve ran 5mg aromasin,

My E2 results which I did a couple of weeks ago came out roughly ok at:

E2 (Estradiol) results:

Oestradiol (E2): 108 pmol/L

Reference range: 41.4 – 159 pmol/L

Total Testosterone: 21.9 nmol/L (good)

SHBG: 44.3 nmol/L (mid–high)

Free Testosterone (calc): 0.385 nmol/L (mid-range)

FAI: 49.4 (normal)

Prolactin: Normal

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Were those numbers while on 500mg a week test (250mg 2x a week) and 5mg aromasin a week? I want to make sure I’m following.

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10 a week total I did 5 on each pin day mon/thurs
Wait sorry I grabbed the pre results like an idiot sorry…
This is before and after results (I just mean latest results as I’m still on the test etc)

Marker Before Now
Testosterone 21.9 nmol/L 205 nmol/L
Free Test 0.385 nmol/L 8.3 nmol/L
FAI 49.4 750.9
Oestradiol 108 pmol/L 190 pmol/L
LH 4.2 IU/L <0.3
FSH 2.7 IU/L <0.3
Prolactin 224 mIU/L 455 mIU/L
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Now this makes more sense as your first results would have had me questioning your product.

You seem to be a fairly high aromatizer if estrodiol went up even though you’re on a half decent dose of an AI. You can start at 500mg test, 250mg EQ, but I would get blood work after 6-8 weeks and specifically check estradiol, hematocrit, and kidney markers, as those tend to be the things impacted by EQ the most. You may need to adjust from there but it seems to be a reasonable starting point.

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Thanks, I’m not totally crazy thinking 50mg seems absolutely a waste of time to start with right?

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Personally, I don’t know what one would see out of that, that would be discernable from everything else, but only one way to find out.

You can always titrate a bit too if you feel the desire:

300mg Test / 150mg EQ for 4-6 weeks
400mg Test / 200mg EQ for 4-6 weeks
500mg Test / 250mg EQ from there on out

I personally don’t use very high doses based on what I train for and how I train, as the point of diminishing returns is lower than it is for more traditional bodybuilding or powerlifting, but I don’t see harm in erring on the conservative side either.