Enemy Nukes In the US?

Off Topic Politics & World Issues
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[quote]Aleksandr wrote:
samsmarts wrote:
Aleksandr wrote:
samsmarts wrote:
But bombing Mecca would turn every living muslim into an enemy of the states. Every muslim in your neighbourhood will be suicide bombing at your hospitals, childrens school etc.

While the topic we are discussing here is very very very very far fetched, it is interesting to figure out what kind of retaliation should the US have planned if indeed another very large scale attack like 9/11 ever occurs.

What is wrong with you people? Yes, every muslim in the world is going to be pissed off. But suicide bombings? WTF, yeah, muslims are just itching to blow themselves up. They are crazy motherfuckers. Seriously…

And yeah, every muslim is going to respond by bombing hospitals and schools.

“hadj, haj, hajj - the fifth pillar of Islam is a pilgrimage to Mecca during the month of Dhu al-Qadah; at least once in a lifetime a Muslim is expected to make a religious journey to Mecca and the Kaaba; “for a Muslim the hajj is the ultimate act of worship””

Isnt performing a pilgrimage to mecca neccesary for every muslim once in their life time? If there is no more mecaa where will they go?

If Mecca is half as important to the muslim world as literature suggests, bombing it means going to war with every muslim on this planet. And not expecting the muslims who live within the USA to bomb shit left and right, is as foolish and retarded as bombing Mecca in the first place(which I was opposed to from the moment Hedo mentioned it).

Yes, it would seriously piss off every muslim in the world. But pissed off muslims don’t all bomb hospitals and schools. Personally, if anyone declared war on me, I’d be destroying railway systems, sabotaging factories, and disrupting production of war materials, not killing innocent people, and certainly not children, and the sick.

The idea of a retaliatory strike against mecca is retarded, and it is my opinion you’d have to be a complete moron to think that’s a good idea. But your perception of what the average muslim would do is just as retarded and offensive.You don’t seem to get it, muslims are not that different from christians. This is because muslims and christians have something in common. Can you figure out what that is?

(HINT: it has to do with what species they are)[/quote]

So you are suggesting that never in the past when religious war occured women and children were murdered?

Grow up buddy i have nothing against muslims. Nothing at all in my honest opinion they are one of the best people on this planet, because no other race or religion would have put up with all the discrimination they have faced since 9/11 and the emergence of Al-Qeada as the root of everything that ever goes wrong. However your belief that each and every muslim will take the high road and watch their place of worship get bombed even though the moron terrorist didnt even represent the muslim faith, is pretty silly.

I am not at all suggesting every muslim is a lunatic but all i am suggesting is like in every society they too have their fair share of loonies. The smart ones like you stated will undermine the strategic locations, however those blinded by rage and less intellect will start bombing shit left and right be it schools or hospitals. I am going to stop now because this argument resolves around the retarded suggestion of bombing Mecca, which we both know is never going to occur.

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Boys

What I pointed out in my statement is that the US will respond with a massive retaliation if they can find a state sponsor of terrorism.

WOuld attacking a Muslim city infurate them. Sure it would. Would 40 nuked American cities infuriate us…what do you think.

I make no suggestion or offer no idea regarding targeting? My question was rhetorical and in regard to deterence. To expect restraint in such a situation from the US would be foolish. I offer no support I am just pointing out what is obvious.

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[quote]samsmarts wrote:
Aleksandr wrote:
samsmarts wrote:
But bombing Mecca would turn every living muslim into an enemy of the states. Every muslim in your neighbourhood will be suicide bombing at your hospitals, childrens school etc.

While the topic we are discussing here is very very very very far fetched, it is interesting to figure out what kind of retaliation should the US have planned if indeed another very large scale attack like 9/11 ever occurs.

What is wrong with you people? Yes, every muslim in the world is going to be pissed off. But suicide bombings? WTF, yeah, muslims are just itching to blow themselves up. They are crazy motherfuckers. Seriously…

And yeah, every muslim is going to respond by bombing hospitals and schools.

“hadj, haj, hajj - the fifth pillar of Islam is a pilgrimage to Mecca during the month of Dhu al-Qadah; at least once in a lifetime a Muslim is expected to make a religious journey to Mecca and the Kaaba; “for a Muslim the hajj is the ultimate act of worship””

Isnt performing a pilgrimage to mecca neccesary for every muslim once in their life time? If there is no more mecaa where will they go?

If Mecca is half as important to the muslim world as literature suggests, bombing it means going to war with every muslim on this planet. And not expecting the muslims who live within the USA to bomb shit left and right, is as foolish and retarded as bombing Mecca in the first place(which I was opposed to from the moment Hedo mentioned it).[/quote]

The hajj is one of the pillars and you are supposed to go to Mecca, if you are phycially and economically able. If Mecca is out of reach for some reason, a Muslim can go to another holy place, such as Jerusalem. There are a few other places one can go, just can’t hink of them off the top of my head right now. Also, if you are too poor to make the hajj, you can demonstrate the faith in other ways. Not a Muslim, I’m just curious about the world I live in and the other people that live in it.

As a parallel, after the Temple at Jerusalem was destroyed in 70 AD, the Jewish faith didn’t disappear, it just changed into what we now know as Rabbinic Judaism. Yes, there were rabbis before then, but the locus of the Jewish faith was the Temple and all Jews were at some point in their lives supposed to make a journey to the Temple and make a sacrifice. This applied whether you were a homeland Jew or from the Diaspora.

The problem with nuclear retaliation on our part would be A) fallout (don’t kid yourself that we would go unharmed by this) and B) how’re we gonna get the oil out of a nuclear wasteland, especially if all that sand turns into glass, as has been suggested elsewhere? Sometimes the solution is neither appeasement nor violent retaliation. Sometimes you gotta get creative. I don’t know what the answer is exactly but I do think there’s another option besides taking it up the rear or giving it up the rear.

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Soviet WMDs Possibly Hidden in U.S. ? Report

Created: 13.07.2005 13:19 MSK (GMT +3), Updated: 13:19 MSK

New evidence suggests that Soviet agents could have concealed nuclear and biological weapons of mass destruction inside the United States and other Western countries.

Polish and Czech officials told the U.S. authorities of the possible existence of Russian ?suitcase nukes? in New York City soon after the Sep. 11, 2001 attacks, the WorldNetDaily website wrote quoting a report by Gordon Thomas and former CIA operative David M. Dastych.

The report says Al Qaida is determined to find those WMD and use them with the help of bribed Russian spies or special forces soldiers who have maintained their secret locations for all these years. U.S intelligence services could not find the weapons soon after the 2001 attacks but later they became concerned about efforts by terrorists to buy off former Soviet and current Russian agents with knowledge of the weapons.

Reporter, author of several books and former FBI consultant Paul L. Williams had earlier published a report on how Al Qaida had purchased some post-Soviet mini-nukes and hired Russians to help them operate those weapons.

Thomas and Dastych also report that Britain?s MI5 had identified 32 spies of the Russian Foreign Intelligence Service operating under full diplomatic cover from their London embassy. The spies reportedly have links to deep-cover KGB agents who, during the Cold War, hid scores of genetically engineered biological warfare weapons in Britain?s countryside. MI5 believes the Russian spies are still actively concealing the locations of the germ vials.

Former KGB spymaster Alexander Kuzminov, quoted by the website, confirmed his agents planted the vials. He, too, believed Russian agents are still involved in guarding them. ?Huge efforts and money was spent in our work,? he explained. ?It would be foolish to believe our people were stood down just because Russia took part in biological weapons talks in Geneva.?