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[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]SteelyD wrote:

[quote]dianab wrote:
All I see is that you’ve got very little money, are studying English and are intent on moving to a very large expensive city.
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The good news is, with that English degree, he should easily be able to find a fast food restaurant to work in in ANY major US city.[/quote]

English majors, creating our bold new future one golden fry at a time.[/quote]

Easy rick james. some of us find jobs.[/quote]

Let’s face it, Clark Kent, you are the exception to the rule. I applaud your hard work to get that position, but that’s like acting as if all of those psych majors are going to be medically licensed psychologists any day now.

I hope you become one of the few T-Nation members to get a Pulitzer…if you have the skills.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]SteelyD wrote:

[quote]dianab wrote:
All I see is that you’ve got very little money, are studying English and are intent on moving to a very large expensive city.
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The good news is, with that English degree, he should easily be able to find a fast food restaurant to work in in ANY major US city.[/quote]

English majors, creating our bold new future one golden fry at a time.[/quote]

This reminds me of a joke…

An accountant asks, “How much does it cost?”

An engineer asks, “How does it work?”

A scientist asks, “Why does it work?”

An art history major asks, “Do you want fries with that?”

zing!

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Just wanted to chime in and say that S4L is probably wasting time even debating this. The likelihood of even getting approved for an apartment in Manhattan with 1,500 bucks and what I assume is lacking credit…well, not happening.

Most young people moving into the City need to get co-signers on their lease.

Speaking generally, I think that most decent buildings want your statements to reflect that you earn 40 times the rent; so if you were looking to get a reasonable 1 bedrooom (1600 at the minimum, and good luck finding that), you’d have to show 64,000.

The other option, assuming your credit isn’t great or you can’t show that kind of income, is paying more up front. Most of the time they’ll want a year up front, but in some instances they will do 6 months.

If you don’t want to live in the City proper, you can look in Queens and Brooklyn. Brooklyn is pretty trendy and so prices are climbing, and it’s difficult to find a place where you won’t need a co-signer.

Queens has some nice areas, but you’ll run into similar problems unless you’re pretty far east from NYC.

This isn’t a well thought out plan.

Those are just the logistics of renting; I’m not even talking about all of the other stuff that everyone else has pointed out.

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^ John is even facepalming in his avatar.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Stength4life wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:
This is retarded. No, I mean REALLY refucktarded.

I didn’t know they still made people like this. This shit sounds like those urban legend warnings about kids who move out to New York or Hollywood and end up living on the streets selling sex for food stamps.

Take notes from the guy in your avatar, Strength…you will need to know those facial movements…as well as have good lungs. I’m talking power to suck the thickest milk shake through the thinnest straw type lungs.[/quote]

Gross.

If following what I want to do in life is retarded than I’m a right wing nut job. I want to move to New York, and the more people tell me I’m not capable of doing it, the more I am driven to succeed. So thanks Prof, you’re helping the cause.[/quote]

Then you really are an idiot. This isn’t about whether you are capable eventually. You have NO MONEY. In fact, if you even THINK the amount you listed will last you more than just long enough for someone to take advantage of you, you are one sheltered son of a bitch.

This is New York, not some trip to the petting zoo.

You are not speaking to someone afraid to take risks. You are speaking to someone who isn’t dumb enough to take risks without expecting and planning for possible failure.

You have no plan. People like you get ass raped.

You sound like a little boy screaming that he’s a man…and no one is falling for it.

So, yeah, keep believing that the people writing this are doing it to hold you back or hurt you in some way.

And when you fuck up, just make sure you haven’t burnt those bridges at home. You will need a way back.[/quote]

I don’t think I have ever seen Professor X destroy someone so comprehensively. And he didn’t even ask about TBT :)!

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[quote]MementoMori wrote:

[quote]Stength4life wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:
This is retarded. No, I mean REALLY refucktarded.

I didn’t know they still made people like this. This shit sounds like those urban legend warnings about kids who move out to New York or Hollywood and end up living on the streets selling sex for food stamps.

Take notes from the guy in your avatar, Strength…you will need to know those facial movements…as well as have good lungs. I’m talking power to suck the thickest milk shake through the thinnest straw type lungs.[/quote]

Gross.

If following what I want to do in life is retarded than I’m a right wing nut job. I want to move to New York, and the more people tell me I’m not capable of doing it, the more I am driven to succeed. So thanks Prof, you’re helping the cause.[/quote]

First of all the fact that you didn’t mention this in the Confession Thread shows you STILL have no idea what that thread is really about.

Second. 1500 is not enough to move out of your parents house and stay in Colorado! It isn’t enough to move to any city away from your family, even if that city isn’t one of the most expensive in your country.

Coles Notes of this thread.

I have no money, friends, jobs or ideas but I wanna move away to a super expensive city!

Why?

YOU ALL HATE ME! I’M GONNA DO IT ANYWAY!

But why?

NO ONE UNDERSTANDS ME!
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Get some better reading glasses Freud, I did mention it.

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[quote]John Romaniello wrote:
Just wanted to chime in and say that S4L is probably wasting time even debating this. The likelihood of even getting approved for an apartment in Manhattan with 1,500 bucks and what I assume is lacking credit…well, not happening.

Most young people moving into the City need to get co-signers on their lease.

Speaking generally, I think that most decent buildings want your statements to reflect that you earn 40 times the rent; so if you were looking to get a reasonable 1 bedrooom (1600 at the minimum, and good luck finding that), you’d have to show 64,000.

The other option, assuming your credit isn’t great or you can’t show that kind of income, is paying more up front. Most of the time they’ll want a year up front, but in some instances they will do 6 months.

If you don’t want to live in the City proper, you can look in Queens and Brooklyn. Brooklyn is pretty trendy and so prices are climbing, and it’s difficult to find a place where you won’t need a co-signer.

Queens has some nice areas, but you’ll run into similar problems unless you’re pretty far east from NYC.

This isn’t a well thought out plan.

Those are just the logistics of renting; I’m not even talking about all of the other stuff that everyone else has pointed out. [/quote]

I was actually thinking Queens. I’ve seen several different places on Craigslist for around 800. But FORTY TIMES the rent? Good God. So would it be a better idea to stay here and build up my credit for a few years before I go? I admit, my plan is undetailed. But I still have a strong desire to live up east, and I am willing to listen to others suggestions; as I have so far. My original plan wasn’t to just move over there with 1500. I guess I didn’t make it clear enough. I’ll edit it right now.

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[quote]dianab wrote:

[quote]Stength4life wrote:
Thanks T-Nation for shitting all over the plan.[/quote]

Enlighten us to what the “plan” is then. All I see is that you’ve got very little money, are studying English and are intent on moving to a very large expensive city.
Dreaming is fine kid, just don’t fall asleep.[/quote]

I’m going to finish JC and get my associates degree and meanwhile Save up money. That was why I started the thread. I had a plan, but I really don’t have any guidance when it comes to living on my own, let alone New York. So I know what I want, I’m just not %100 sure how I go about getting it.

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[quote]XanderBuilt wrote:

[quote]Stength4life wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:
This is retarded. No, I mean REALLY refucktarded.

I didn’t know they still made people like this. This shit sounds like those urban legend warnings about kids who move out to New York or Hollywood and end up living on the streets selling sex for food stamps.

Take notes from the guy in your avatar, Strength…you will need to know those facial movements…as well as have good lungs. I’m talking power to suck the thickest milk shake through the thinnest straw type lungs.[/quote]

Gross.

If following what I want to do in life is retarded than I’m a right wing nut job. I want to move to New York, and the more people tell me I’m not capable of doing it, the more I am driven to succeed. So thanks Prof, you’re helping the cause.[/quote]

We all know Prof X has never held back on giving his opinion and yes most of the time it comes across blunt. But you really got to take a step back and ask:

  1. Is this right for me?
  2. Do I have a plan B if I don’t make it?
  3. What will I work as?
  4. How much do I expect to save every month?
  5. Where do I see myself in a year from now? 3 years?
  6. When will I know that I’ve been successful in this move? What needs to happen for me to feel this way?

We don’t doubt your conviction to go ahead with the move, we do doubt (strongly I might add) your planning and execution to make this move successful.

Why New York? If it’s your dream, why is it your dream? What made it your dream? Unless you can answer honestly development questions like this you should stay put.[/quote]

Hey thanks. This is the kind of stuff I was looking for. I’ve copied and pasted your post into a word document. These questions look helpful

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[quote]Stength4life wrote:

[quote]XanderBuilt wrote:

[quote]Stength4life wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:
This is retarded. No, I mean REALLY refucktarded.

I didn’t know they still made people like this. This shit sounds like those urban legend warnings about kids who move out to New York or Hollywood and end up living on the streets selling sex for food stamps.

Take notes from the guy in your avatar, Strength…you will need to know those facial movements…as well as have good lungs. I’m talking power to suck the thickest milk shake through the thinnest straw type lungs.[/quote]

Gross.

If following what I want to do in life is retarded than I’m a right wing nut job. I want to move to New York, and the more people tell me I’m not capable of doing it, the more I am driven to succeed. So thanks Prof, you’re helping the cause.[/quote]

We all know Prof X has never held back on giving his opinion and yes most of the time it comes across blunt. But you really got to take a step back and ask:

  1. Is this right for me?
  2. Do I have a plan B if I don’t make it?
  3. What will I work as?
  4. How much do I expect to save every month?
  5. Where do I see myself in a year from now? 3 years?
  6. When will I know that I’ve been successful in this move? What needs to happen for me to feel this way?

We don’t doubt your conviction to go ahead with the move, we do doubt (strongly I might add) your planning and execution to make this move successful.

Why New York? If it’s your dream, why is it your dream? What made it your dream? Unless you can answer honestly development questions like this you should stay put.[/quote]

Hey thanks. This is the kind of stuff I was looking for. I’ve copied and pasted your post into a word document. These questions look helpful[/quote]

No worries dude. When your plan has clarity you’ll really make better progress.

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One more thought. An associates degree in NYC really isn’t going to get you a job other than fast food. You need at least a bachelor’s…and probably with some other major.

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[quote]attydeb2005 wrote:
One more thought. An associates degree in NYC really isn’t going to get you a job other than fast food. You need at least a bachelor’s…and probably with some other major. [/quote]

Not even that. I know DOCTORS moving out of New York because it is too expensive. I don’t know how he would make it comfortably without a Master’s or better.

This kid is no where near ready for this.

Maybe in 8 years.

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[quote]Stength4life wrote:

[quote]John Romaniello wrote:
Just wanted to chime in and say that S4L is probably wasting time even debating this. The likelihood of even getting approved for an apartment in Manhattan with 1,500 bucks and what I assume is lacking credit…well, not happening.

Most young people moving into the City need to get co-signers on their lease.

Speaking generally, I think that most decent buildings want your statements to reflect that you earn 40 times the rent; so if you were looking to get a reasonable 1 bedrooom (1600 at the minimum, and good luck finding that), you’d have to show 64,000.

The other option, assuming your credit isn’t great or you can’t show that kind of income, is paying more up front. Most of the time they’ll want a year up front, but in some instances they will do 6 months.

If you don’t want to live in the City proper, you can look in Queens and Brooklyn. Brooklyn is pretty trendy and so prices are climbing, and it’s difficult to find a place where you won’t need a co-signer.

Queens has some nice areas, but you’ll run into similar problems unless you’re pretty far east from NYC.

This isn’t a well thought out plan.

Those are just the logistics of renting; I’m not even talking about all of the other stuff that everyone else has pointed out. [/quote]

I was actually thinking Queens. I’ve seen several different places on Craigslist for around 800. But FORTY TIMES the rent? Good God. So would it be a better idea to stay here and build up my credit for a few years before I go? I admit, my plan is undetailed. But I still have a strong desire to live up east, and I am willing to listen to others suggestions; as I have so far. My original plan wasn’t to just move over there with 1500. I guess I didn’t make it clear enough. I’ll edit it right now. [/quote]

40 times the rent is the BARE-ASS MINIMUM they require. It’s usually 60-80 times the monthly rent, no joke. I just moved to a new place, so I know.

If you’re finding a place in Queens for $800/month it’s going to be waaaaaay the hell out in butt-fuck Queens (Queens is a huge place), to the point where you’ll be so far form the City (i.e. Manhattan) that it’s negating the whole point of your moving to NYC in the first place.

Finally, it’s not just your credit rating you need to build up. It’s your bank account. Multiply your net worth by 80 or 100 first. AND make yourself employable so you can get at LEAST a high-5-figure job when you move out here, and line up interviews and find a job here, BEFORE you move here. NOT the other way around.

In short you’re several years away from it.

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[quote]Damici wrote:

[quote]Stength4life wrote:

[quote]John Romaniello wrote:
Just wanted to chime in and say that S4L is probably wasting time even debating this. The likelihood of even getting approved for an apartment in Manhattan with 1,500 bucks and what I assume is lacking credit…well, not happening.

Most young people moving into the City need to get co-signers on their lease.

Speaking generally, I think that most decent buildings want your statements to reflect that you earn 40 times the rent; so if you were looking to get a reasonable 1 bedrooom (1600 at the minimum, and good luck finding that), you’d have to show 64,000.

The other option, assuming your credit isn’t great or you can’t show that kind of income, is paying more up front. Most of the time they’ll want a year up front, but in some instances they will do 6 months.

If you don’t want to live in the City proper, you can look in Queens and Brooklyn. Brooklyn is pretty trendy and so prices are climbing, and it’s difficult to find a place where you won’t need a co-signer.

Queens has some nice areas, but you’ll run into similar problems unless you’re pretty far east from NYC.

This isn’t a well thought out plan.

Those are just the logistics of renting; I’m not even talking about all of the other stuff that everyone else has pointed out. [/quote]

I was actually thinking Queens. I’ve seen several different places on Craigslist for around 800. But FORTY TIMES the rent? Good God. So would it be a better idea to stay here and build up my credit for a few years before I go? I admit, my plan is undetailed. But I still have a strong desire to live up east, and I am willing to listen to others suggestions; as I have so far. My original plan wasn’t to just move over there with 1500. I guess I didn’t make it clear enough. I’ll edit it right now. [/quote]

40 times the rent is the BARE-ASS MINIMUM they require. It’s usually 60-80 times the monthly rent, no joke. I just moved to a new place, so I know.

If you’re finding a place in Queens for $800/month it’s going to be waaaaaay the hell out in butt-fuck Queens (Queens is a huge place), to the point where you’ll be so far form the City (i.e. Manhattan) that it’s negating the whole point of your moving to NYC in the first place.

Finally, it’s not just your credit rating you need to build up. It’s your bank account. Multiply your net worth by 80 or 100 first. AND make yourself employable so you can get at LEAST a high-5-figure job when you move out here, and line up interviews and find a job here, BEFORE you move here. NOT the other way around.

In short you’re several years away from it.
[/quote]

Indeed this is correct.

I just moved into a new place and I have to tell you, outside of the 7 week apartment hunt, once I found the place I liked, the amount of documentation they wanted in terms of proof of income, credit etc was just miserable.

If I was going to move into Queens, I like Bayside, Astoria, and maybe one or two other areas. B

Honestly, your best bet is to save about 35K, look into subletting for a few months, then find a roommate and get a new place.

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[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:

If you’re trying to do the “life experience” thing, I can tell you living in a roach infested apartment in the outer boroughs while trying to save enough money to get drunk one night in a month is going to be pretty f’n miserable.

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I happen to be visiting New York this weekend. I had a cab driver in Brooklyn say basically the EXACT same thing FightinIrish said above. Work your ass off for the entire month just so you can get drunk once.

I happen to be sitting in a 20th floor air-conditioned apartment in Manhattan at my cousin’s place. He’s an investment banker and he’s been working 100+ hr weeks for 2 years now. That’s what it takes to live in what would seem like a relatively average apartment in any other city.

New York City is PHENOMENAL to visit, but as I’ve heard from many people, if you don’t got money, its very hard to live here. And $1500 aint shit in New York, or anywhere else for that matter.

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Just came across this on facebook, thought I’d post it here for some perspective =)

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Sounds kind of depressing…so what actually keeps you guys in NYC if it’s that expensive, opportunity? thin-crust pizza?

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[quote]Power GnP wrote:
Sounds kind of depressing…so what actually keeps you guys in NYC if it’s that expensive, opportunity? thin-crust pizza?[/quote]

Good question. From what I gather, for what a one room apartment/closet runs for monthly in the middle of New York, you can get a 4 bedroom house 20min or less from downtown Houston with a garage…and you actually have places to park.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Power GnP wrote:
Sounds kind of depressing…so what actually keeps you guys in NYC if it’s that expensive, opportunity? thin-crust pizza?[/quote]

Good question. From what I gather, for what a one room apartment/closet runs for monthly in the middle of New York, you can get a 4 bedroom house 20min or less from downtown Houston with a garage…and you actually have places to park.[/quote]

And better weather too?

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[quote]XanderBuilt wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Power GnP wrote:
Sounds kind of depressing…so what actually keeps you guys in NYC if it’s that expensive, opportunity? thin-crust pizza?[/quote]

Good question. From what I gather, for what a one room apartment/closet runs for monthly in the middle of New York, you can get a 4 bedroom house 20min or less from downtown Houston with a garage…and you actually have places to park.[/quote]

And better weather too?[/quote]

If you can stand the heat from May to September, I just don’t see the appeal of the Big Apple today. I think Houston is the 3rd largest city, and even though we are getting crowded, the chaos New Yorkers deal with is just a lesson in insanity.

One doc told me the amount she paid for parking in New York would have been rent down here.