Emily's Playground aka Let's Process our Feelings III

<-----Where the hell did that dude go?

Just dropping by to say hi to all. Hope you’re well. Things have been good, bad, somewhere in between and always busy as hell.

Good to hear from you. Hope the baby is doing well.

[quote]SkyzykS wrote:
<-----Where the hell did that dude go?

Just dropping by to say hi to all. Hope you’re well. Things have been good, bad, somewhere in between and always busy as hell.
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Good seeing ya, stop in sometime.

Wow, looking at the time stamp on Skyz’ post, I wonder where I’ve been.

Hope all is well, Skyz, and that things are more good than bad or in between.

Busy here as well. We had company two weekends in a row, and Hockey was in town last week, so I haven’t had as much time to waste as usual. I’m also in a good place workouts-wise, which is time consuming.

Things continue to go well here. We’ve had our first fight, so that’s out of the way. It was over rotten fish left in the refrigerator. But I’d had a weirdly bad week - two suicide threats and one threat of harm to others along with a woman preparing to leave an abusive husband - while Hockey was stuck sitting around during pretty weather because of an injury, so we were both on edge. And OMG, did that fish stink.

[quote]EmilyQ wrote: And OMG, did that fish stink.

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Well, maybe you should have cooked it or refrozen it like you said you would.

:stuck_out_tongue:

[quote]Chushin wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:
We’ve had our first fight, so that’s out of the way.

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Who won?[/quote]

Not the fish.

[quote]Dr. Pangloss wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote: And OMG, did that fish stink.

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Well, maybe you should have cooked it or refrozen it like you said you would.

:stuck_out_tongue:
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Or MAYBE the person sitting home all week should have done that while those of us working to keep baby in Carhartts were out grinding away!

I have strong feelings to process, so I’ll be back later to do that.

[quote]Testy1 wrote:

[quote]Chushin wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:
We’ve had our first fight, so that’s out of the way.

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Who won?[/quote]

Not the fish.
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Poor fucker got caught, eviscerated and is now discarded because his death is so meaningless that they would just let him rot in a fridge…

What I am trying to say is, if you kill it, eat it.

Or smoke it.

[quote]orion wrote:
What I am trying to say is, if you kill it, eat it.

Or smoke it.[/quote]

We did eat it! And I ate more of it the next day at work, so my coworkers had to endure fish smell in the microwave. But there was still some left. I’m not permitted to throw away “perfectly good” food in the refrigerator any longer (I have been judged over-exuberant in this regard) so fine, I left it. I made an “eww” statement at some point when I noticed the stuff still in there, then a stronger statement of unhappiness when I first noticed the smell. On the morning in question, I notified certain persons that THE FISH HAS ROTTED and gave clear notice that I would have to throw every single thing in the fridge away after work if it still smelled. It did. The fish was gone, but ultimately every single thing in the refrigerator AND freezer had to be removed and cleaned before the smell went away (this occurred little by little as the smell continued not to go away). He was unhappy because as a precaution I threw away other potentially “perfectly good” foods and, in his opinion, over-filled the trash bag. In MY opinion he was extremely unhelpful along with being critical.

So there! We did cook and eat the stuff.

Who was most at fault in the debacle remains a matter of strenuous dispute.

Personally, I think it was HIM. Unhelpful! Critical! AND the reason we don’t throw questionable items away as soon as we identify their questionability!

This + a bit of time, does wonders.

http://www.armandhammer.com/deodorization/baking-soda/Products/arm-and-hammer-baking-soda-fridge-n-freezer.aspx

[quote]LoRez wrote:
This + a bit of time, does wonders.

http://www.armandhammer.com/deodorization/baking-soda/Products/arm-and-hammer-baking-soda-fridge-n-freezer.aspx[/quote]

Oh LoRez. Do we seem as if we’ve only just fallen off the potato truck? In fact, one of the first things I did when I attacked the refrigerator on that fateful night was to shake the box of baking soda. From behind me I heard “Yeah, I shook the baking soda, too. It didn’t help.” That box of baking soda was immediately deemed contaminated and thrown into the overfull garbage, whose plastic tie would later break from the incredible weight of the combined pollutants.

The baking soda in the pantry - used for baking - was brought into play. Some of it was poured onto a plate so there would be two sources of air-cleansing smell-absorbtion. That, too, failed.

I later bought two new boxes of the above-linked items, one for the freezer and one for the fridge, and it still took days for the smell to go away completely. And this after the removal and washing of every single item in both compartments and a complete wipe-down of the entire system. It would never have occurred to us that the freezer would require cleaning, but the ice in our 4th of July cooler suggested otherwise.

Emily,

I am hesitant to reply, as you know more about human behavior than I. I can say that I can see myself in that situation (standing behind, unhelpful, critical, even angry)

I don’t think it is a matter of ‘more at fault’, more of different priorities. For my wife clean, orderly = very important, for me not wasting, use or reuse what we have=very important, upbringing most likely. after 40 years marriage, I hope to understand that not important to me does not = unimportant. Over time, I have come to understand that some things are important solely because they are important to her.
Don’t know if my perspective helps, I hope so.

good luck

[quote]fiftyplus wrote:
Emily,

I am hesitant to reply, as you know more about human behavior than I. I can say that I can see myself in that situation (standing behind, unhelpful, critical, even angry)

I don’t think it is a matter of ‘more at fault’, more of different priorities. For my wife clean, orderly = very important, for me not wasting, use or reuse what we have=very important, upbringing most likely. after 40 years marriage, I hope to understand that not important to me does not = unimportant. Over time, I have come to understand that some things are important solely because they are important to her.
Don’t know if my perspective helps, I hope so.

good luck
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It does help, thank you for responding. I leave what I consider to be dangerously old food in the fridge for just the reason you gave - it’s obviously important to him, and I’d be unreasonable not to acknowledge that eating disgusting, rotten food seems not to have harmed him. He felt that he’d done his part earlier that day by taking the fish out of the fridge, shaking the baking soda, and moving the garbage can that now contained the fish to the back porch. My reaction when I got home later that night (after a 10 hour work day, dinner out, and a stop at the grocery store) and was hit with strong stench was definitely cranky/frustrated. I think it set him off.

As fights go, it was spectacularly low-key. He committed his unhelpfulness, which I didn’t comment on, and went to watch TV. I cleaned the fridge (phase 1), cleaned up the kitchen, and went to bed. He came to bed after I was asleep (unusual for us). Later I found him in the night and we snuggled. In the morning (July 4th) I asked if we could go canoeing before going to a party and he said yes, then we both went back to sleep. When we woke up again I asked if we were in a fight and he said no and asked if I thought we were, and I told him that he’d hurt my feelings. He said he was “giving [me] space” (MEN: WTF with this?) and I said “space to do everything by myself, including taking out the trash you’d left and emptying the dishwasher you’d ignored all day so I could clear up the mess I’d made?” He got up and started emptying everything out of the fridge, I offered to do it (“it’s bothering me, so I’ll take care of it”), he refused and apologized for being unhelpful, saying he thought I’d commanded him to unload the dishwasher. I said no, I only asked him to take the trash out. Then I went and worked out. Later, when we put the ice in the cooler we agreed that the freezer needed work, too. The fight was over.

Though there seemed to be very little damage done, my “hamster” was active later in the week, so it must have stirred some insecurity. (Orion, I HATE that “hamster” thing, and I hate you for implanting the term in my head!)

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:
He said he was “giving [me] space” (MEN: WTF with this?)[/quote]
I have no idea, but from the other side. It’s a thing women frequently say they want, so men just learn to leave them alone for awhile.

I’d recommend asking women what they mean by it.

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

[quote]LoRez wrote:
This + a bit of time, does wonders.

http://www.armandhammer.com/deodorization/baking-soda/Products/arm-and-hammer-baking-soda-fridge-n-freezer.aspx[/quote]

Oh LoRez. Do we seem as if we’ve only just fallen off the potato truck? In fact, one of the first things I did when I attacked the refrigerator on that fateful night was to shake the box of baking soda. From behind me I heard “Yeah, I shook the baking soda, too. It didn’t help.” That box of baking soda was immediately deemed contaminated and thrown into the overfull garbage, whose plastic tie would later break from the incredible weight of the combined pollutants.

The baking soda in the pantry - used for baking - was brought into play. Some of it was poured onto a plate so there would be two sources of air-cleansing smell-absorbtion. That, too, failed.

I later bought two new boxes of the above-linked items, one for the freezer and one for the fridge, and it still took days for the smell to go away completely. And this after the removal and washing of every single item in both compartments and a complete wipe-down of the entire system. It would never have occurred to us that the freezer would require cleaning, but the ice in our 4th of July cooler suggested otherwise.[/quote]
Ah, I see. I had the same issue with storing asafetida in the cabinet, then fridge, then freezer. Including the ice issue.

I suppose it’s been awhile since I’ve dealt with something quite so… potent.

Did you find a proactive solution to prevent/reduce the chances of stuff going bad in the future? Something like “if the meat doesn’t get used within 3 or 4 days of buying it, it goes in the freezer”? That’s pretty much what we decided on around here.

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:
Though there seemed to be very little damage done, my “hamster” was active later in the week, so it must have stirred some insecurity. (Orion, I HATE that “hamster” thing, and I hate you for implanting the term in my head!)

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[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

Though there seemed to be very little damage done, my “hamster” was active later in the week, so it must have stirred some insecurity. (Orion, I HATE that “hamster” thing, and I hate you for implanting the term in my head!)

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Just made you a little bit more self aware, you mental health professional you…