[quote]JustTheFacts wrote:
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The man who began burning bridges with the Bush family when he challenged then-President Bush’s Persian Gulf War preparations on their first meeting (“Who is this chickenshit?” Bush Sr. asked)…
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It only took 11 years to get him.
[quote]Zap Branigan wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
Nominal Prospect wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
A mixed economy allowed the creation of a large government. This attracts people who crave power over others. The people within the government then see literally anything that threatens that government to be a threat to themselves and their power.
Something will happen to make Ron Paul drop his campaign. If he has children and a spouse, then he’s even more vulnerable. A bullet is probably not even needed…(Remember Ross Perot?)
What did the powers-that-be do to make Perot lose? I had thought he screwed himself over by dropping out of the race for a time.
Why did he drop out for a time? Something to do with his daughter being threatened, if memory serves me correctly.
Old man Joe Kennedy was warned about getting his son elected. He ignored the advice. After Robert was killed, as the story goes, a family ‘friend’ stood next to Joe and said, “Remember Joe, you have a lot of grandchildren to think of.” Hmmm…just trying to comfort the old man, eh? Remind him of the little ones, asleep in their beds…
Lots of stories. Was Reagan part of the elite or did the elite try to kill him?
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That I don’t know. I’m sure that some assassinations are simply by deranged individuals, maybe by those who want fame.
Should we dismiss ALL deaths as accidental or assassinations as the work of a lone maniac?
An interesting idea I’ve had is to compare death rates between (a) general population (b) lawyers (c) politicians.
Suppose that group (a) had a per year death-by-accident rate of 1%, (b) was 1.2%, while (c) was 5%. That would suggest a serious statistical anamoly worth investigating. Why would so many politicians die? What’s the probability of a plane crashing with a US Senator on board?
If the odds of dying in a plane crash like that was 3 times that of winning the Mega Millions Jackpot, would YOU conduct a very thorough investigation?
[quote]Headhunter wrote:
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An interesting idea I’ve had is to compare death rates between (a) general population (b) lawyers (c) politicians.
Suppose that group (a) had a per year death-by-accident rate of 1%, (b) was 1.2%, while (c) was 5%. That would suggest a serious statistical anamoly worth investigating. Why would so many politicians die? What’s the probability of a plane crashing with a US Senator on board?
If the odds of dying in a plane crash like that was 3 times that of winning the Mega Millions Jackpot, would YOU conduct a very thorough investigation?
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What are the odds of a plane crashing with a pro golfer aboard? What are the odds of a plane crashing with a college football team aboard?
Personally, I don’t believe it. Just about everything that comes from Alex Jones, or prisonplanet.com looks like kooky, loony, conspiracy theorist pornography.
You know, I imagine that the kool-aid drinkers sit there behind their screens reading prisonplanet.com, thinking about how this evil shadow government is watching the same thing pounding their fists into the tabel screaming, “Damn it, Alex Jones is telling them EVERYTHING! We have to stop him before they know it all!”
The fact that Alex Jones is alive is proof that everything he says is a bullshit lie. The fact that the creators of all the “Bush did 9-11” videos are all alive is proof that those videos are bullshit lies. The fact that the creators of all these kooky “federal reserve conspiracy” videos are alive is proof that these conspiracies are totally false.
It’s taking 100 different puzzles of a bird, taking 1 piece out of each of those puzzles, and making a new one, then saying “Look, it is a real bird!” Even is the pieces don’t fit, it doesn’t matter.
Take 100 tiny truths, and make 1 big LIE out of them, and say that it is true because it is made up all these little ones.
Thats my opinion though, go ahead and flame away…
[quote]lixy wrote:
jlesk68, where did your thread about Paul raising 6 million dollars in 24 hours go? Was it deleted, just a victim of T-Nation’s recent server issues or is it all part of the plan to ‘remove’ Ron Paul?
Seriously though, I had trouble believing he raised that much given the absence of links in your post, but it’s starting to seem legit’.[/quote]
I was sent a message that there were too many Ron Paul threads.
[quote]Zap Branigan wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
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An interesting idea I’ve had is to compare death rates between (a) general population (b) lawyers (c) politicians.
Suppose that group (a) had a per year death-by-accident rate of 1%, (b) was 1.2%, while (c) was 5%. That would suggest a serious statistical anamoly worth investigating. Why would so many politicians die? What’s the probability of a plane crashing with a US Senator on board?
If the odds of dying in a plane crash like that was 3 times that of winning the Mega Millions Jackpot, would YOU conduct a very thorough investigation?
What are the odds of a plane crashing with a pro golfer aboard? What are the odds of a plane crashing with a college football team aboard?[/quote]
How many pro golfers get shot in the head? How many have a brother be assassinated as well?
How many football players tie anchors to their ankles, blow their heads off, then jump in the bay?
[quote]Headhunter wrote:
Zap Branigan wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
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An interesting idea I’ve had is to compare death rates between (a) general population (b) lawyers (c) politicians.
Suppose that group (a) had a per year death-by-accident rate of 1%, (b) was 1.2%, while (c) was 5%. That would suggest a serious statistical anamoly worth investigating. Why would so many politicians die? What’s the probability of a plane crashing with a US Senator on board?
If the odds of dying in a plane crash like that was 3 times that of winning the Mega Millions Jackpot, would YOU conduct a very thorough investigation?
What are the odds of a plane crashing with a pro golfer aboard? What are the odds of a plane crashing with a college football team aboard?
How many pro golfers get shot in the head? How many have a brother be assassinated as well?
How many football players tie anchors to their ankles, blow their heads off, then jump in the bay?
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How many football players stab other football players in the leg to get their starting spot?
[quote]thunderbolt23 wrote:
Setting the quality (or lack thereof) of Lixy’s posts aside, you do realize he isn’t white, so I actually think more highly of Lixy than you do? [/quote]
What makes you think that I am not white?
[quote]lixy wrote:
thunderbolt23 wrote:
Setting the quality (or lack thereof) of Lixy’s posts aside, you do realize he isn’t white, so I actually think more highly of Lixy than you do?
What makes you think that I am not white?[/quote]
Isn’t that you in your avatar?
[quote]skaz05 wrote:
Personally, I don’t believe it. Just about everything that comes from Alex Jones, or prisonplanet.com looks like kooky, loony, conspiracy theorist pornography.
You know, I imagine that the kool-aid drinkers sit there behind their screens reading prisonplanet.com, thinking about how this evil shadow government is watching the same thing pounding their fists into the tabel screaming, “Damn it, Alex Jones is telling them EVERYTHING! We have to stop him before they know it all!”
The fact that Alex Jones is alive is proof that everything he says is a bullshit lie. The fact that the creators of all the “Bush did 9-11” videos are all alive is proof that those videos are bullshit lies. The fact that the creators of all these kooky “federal reserve conspiracy” videos are alive is proof that these conspiracies are totally false.
It’s taking 100 different puzzles of a bird, taking 1 piece out of each of those puzzles, and making a new one, then saying “Look, it is a real bird!” Even is the pieces don’t fit, it doesn’t matter.
Take 100 tiny truths, and make 1 big LIE out of them, and say that it is true because it is made up all these little ones.
Thats my opinion though, go ahead and flame away…[/quote]
Not that I believe these conspiracies at all but if Alex Jones were killed wouldn’t that just be an other way to validate the conspiracy. It would be better for “them” to just let the dingbat speak and discredit himself. At least, that’s how I’d operate.
That said, there are people that view power as their main objective and want nothing more than to rule other’s lives. Proof? Look at all the numskulls running for president. That alone makes me skeptical enough to question what I am being told by the people who claim to be our protectors.
History is often conspiratorial. Look how Winston Churchill conspired with the bankers to get the USA into WWI (Churchill admits he did this wrt the Lusitania).
I would rather lean toward conspiracy theories than not. If each person is highly suspicious of government/powerful people, then I think the world would be a hell of a lot better off.
[quote]Zap Branigan wrote:
lixy wrote:
thunderbolt23 wrote:
Setting the quality (or lack thereof) of Lixy’s posts aside, you do realize he isn’t white, so I actually think more highly of Lixy than you do?
What makes you think that I am not white?
Isn’t that you in your avatar?[/quote]
I suspect that Lixy lives in the USA, and his parents are Moroccans who lived for a time in Great Britain.
That’s me in my Avatar! You may call me ‘Uncle’ from now on. ;D
[quote]Headhunter wrote:
If each person is highly suspicious of government/powerful people, then I think the world would be a hell of a lot better off.[/quote]
Very true.
[quote]Headhunter wrote:
Nominal Prospect wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
A mixed economy allowed the creation of a large government. This attracts people who crave power over others. The people within the government then see literally anything that threatens that government to be a threat to themselves and their power.
Something will happen to make Ron Paul drop his campaign. If he has children and a spouse, then he’s even more vulnerable. A bullet is probably not even needed…(Remember Ross Perot?)
What did the powers-that-be do to make Perot lose? I had thought he screwed himself over by dropping out of the race for a time.
Why did he drop out for a time? Something to do with his daughter being threatened, if memory serves me correctly.
Old man Joe Kennedy was warned about getting his son elected. He ignored the advice. After Robert was killed, as the story goes, a family ‘friend’ stood next to Joe and said, “Remember Joe, you have a lot of grandchildren to think of.” Hmmm…just trying to comfort the old man, eh? Remind him of the little ones, asleep in their beds…
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Interesting. Wasn’t aware of that.
Edit: Just saw this.
http://www.whitecivilrights.com/clinton-dynasty-trots-out-the-crown-princess_1037.html
You know that impression of Ron Paul being the candidate for Kooky voters? This doesn’t exactly help…
What is the point of posting this? It’s a “future fact” that can’t be shown as correct or incorrect presently. You’d have to have a time machine to validate or invalidate this story. And if Ron didn’t win, you’d have to have some ability to not only travel through time, but also enter into a dimension where Ron won. This is useless garbage and counter-productive to the campaign.
The kook factor does rub off onto the man’s image, you know? One of the reasons I refrained from looking closer at his campaign earlier on, was because I thought the kook factor supporting him was reflective of the man’s own beliefs and stances.
If you really support the guy, knock it off and deal with more tangible issues.
[quote]Sloth wrote:
You know that impression of Ron Paul being the candidate for Kooky voters? This doesn’t exactly help…
What is the point of posting this? It’s a “future fact” that can’t be shown as correct or incorrect presently. You’d have to have a time machine to validate or invalidate this story. And if Ron didn’t win, you’d have to have some ability to not only travel through time, but also enter into a dimension where Ron won. This is useless garbage and counter-productive to the campaign.
The kook factor does rub off onto the man’s image, you know? One of the reasons I refrained from looking closer at his campaign earlier on, was because I thought the kook factor supporting him was reflective of the man’s own beliefs and stances.
If you really support the guy, knock it off and deal with more tangible issues.
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The kook factor is, in fact, actually really small. Of the many people I know that are hard-core supporters none of us believe the conspiracy stories though we all agree there are things that are known that haven’t been said – I don’t think that makes us kooky. It makes us realistic.
[quote]LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:
Sloth wrote:
You know that impression of Ron Paul being the candidate for Kooky voters? This doesn’t exactly help…
What is the point of posting this? It’s a “future fact” that can’t be shown as correct or incorrect presently. You’d have to have a time machine to validate or invalidate this story. And if Ron didn’t win, you’d have to have some ability to not only travel through time, but also enter into a dimension where Ron won. This is useless garbage and counter-productive to the campaign.
The kook factor does rub off onto the man’s image, you know? One of the reasons I refrained from looking closer at his campaign earlier on, was because I thought the kook factor supporting him was reflective of the man’s own beliefs and stances.
If you really support the guy, knock it off and deal with more tangible issues.
The kook factor is, in fact, actually really small. Of the many people I know that are hard-core supporters none of us believe the conspiracy stories though we all agree there are things that are known that haven’t been said – I don’t think that makes us kooky. It makes us realistic.[/quote]
No, you’re right, they’re a small portion.
[quote]jlesk68 wrote:
http://prisonplanet.com/audio/141207estulin.mp3
By Paul Joseph Watson
December 15, 2007
Best-selling author and Bilderberg sleuth Daniel Estulin says he has received information from sources inside the U.S. intelligence community which suggests that people from the highest levels of the U.S. government are considering an assassination attempt against Congressman Ron Paul because they are threatened by his burgeoning popularity.
Estulin, whose information has unfortunately proven very accurate in the past, went public with the bombshell news during an appearance on The Alex Jones Show today.
“I am getting information from my sources that there are people involved from a higher level of the American establishment who are seriously considering - this has not been confirmed - but assassination is definitely on the agenda and I pray to God that this is not the case,” said Estulin.
Estulin, an award winning investigative journalist, said that he was given the information from a source that has been reliable for over a decade in providing accurate projections of future events based on what the elite were discussing in their own circles and that assassination was a serious option should the Ron Paul Revolution continue to pick up steam.
Estulin, author of the global bestseller The True Story of the Bilderberg Group described the concept as a “trial balloon from the inner core within the inner core - it hasn’t gone beyond that but it is obviously on the table because I think needless to say they are very much concerned,” he added.
Ron Paul himself has stated on a previous occasion that he is aware of the dangers of being such a bold icon for freedom and understands that political assassinations have occured in the past.
In a June appearance on The Alex Jones Show, Congressman Paul acknowledged that such a threat is “real,” agreeing with a number of historical examples where leaders were killed or attacked for successfully standing up to the system. “That’s right. They’ll do it,” Paul said, making reference with Alex Jones to upstarts like Andrew Jackson, “The Kingfish” Huey Long, Bobby Kennedy, George Washington and even George Wallace.
Estulin pointed out that his past predictions about global events were very accurate because of the solid information provided to him from within Bilderberg and the elite. Over 18 months ago Estulin correctly made the call that the Iran war had been delayed and was probably off the table, which is looking to be exactly the case after the release of the recent National Intelligence Estimate. Estulin in featured at length in Alex Jones’ film Endgame , in which he is also filmed making the prediction based on his sources.
Estulin said his sources were from within the intelligence community and they were telling him that “the people of the highest levels of government - not related in any way at least visually to George W. Bush - the first initial conversation of what might happen if we were to do this,” has taken place.
“The Ron Paul phenomenon has galvanized an entire nation,” said Estulin, adding that both the people who discovered the plot and its potential protagonists are terrified at the consequences of what such an action will be because of the difficulty in judging just how severely the general public will react.
Estulin said that the conspirators, which he described as a “small circle of intimates,” were discussing what the effect would be if Congressman Paul was “removed” - they are being very careful to use the word “remove” rather than more volatile terms, but Estulin was told directly that “remove” was a euphemism for assassinate.
Estulin said he may be able to be more specific on exactly who is discussing such an action in future, but warned that Ron Paul’s staff should be aware of the issue.
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jlesk,
I get the feeling you are a troll.
You aren’t going to bait me into a lengthy response.
On the off chance that you are serious, I’ll let you in on a little secret: Adults with power have better things to do than worry about a guy who has no chance.
JeffR