Electoral Politics: A Losing Game

What do you do when the minority is mostly wrong but gets their way?

Certainly money is a factor but it’s not the only factor.

When has this guy debated anyone of real substance?

The bottom line is that the consequences of freedom of speech are drastically different today than it was in any time during the 20th Century.

Sure the Government treats it the same now as it did since the beginning. So, I will agree with all who are making that point.

It is a major factor.

And what exactly are my beliefs? I don’t watch the news. AT ALL. Just because I’m conservative doesn’t mean I watch Fox or any other scam-artist news network; thank you for generalizing me into that spectrum of people though.

You know fuck all about my beliefs.

How are you going to say ANYTHING about free speech while living under C-16?

I…

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I had no idea. Wow. Just… Wow.

Thank you for guiding me to this elevated level of understanding, which is totally not recycled Marxism put into increasingly vague terms.

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Don’t disagree with the cronyism issue. Your government, on both sides, seem to love it.

As stupid as the ministry of truth is, as long as they can’t prevent what you say, aren’t an immediate issue. Definitely a slippery slope.

Is it right OR wrong? And the post is not vague if you understand English.

Last I checked no one on this board, has any original ideas or expressions of them , including you and me.

Uh, yeah. There are some others.

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Yes c-16 is an actual issue with freedom of speech.

Any law like that in America?

If not, your freedom of speech is still intact.

It’s NOT about original ideas but what ideas are right and wrong.

Oh, well why didn’t you just say so?

Guess we’re all just saying the same thing with concerns that are completely, totally unwarranted and there’s nothing punitive going on whatsoever, despite the litany of examples that could be provided to say otherwise.

We’re all just overreacting guys, it’s okay! This Canadian fella who watched all these things happen in Canada before they started restricting free speech says we shouldn’t worry about the exact same thing happening here, in almost exactly the same fashion.

Guess my work here is done.

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I believe others ideas are wrong and vice versa. The way of the world is imposition of will. Politics serves to avoid violence for this. If politics fails over and over, then there can be an actual fight (civil war).

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Can you explain the right ideas, or are you just a troll who repeatedly disagrees with people in vague terms?

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It’s 100% the latter of the two options you posted. I’ve asked multiple times for either candidates or policy in which he agrees with/thinks should be implemented - the responses were so quiet I couldn’t hear them.

Canada has never had free speech. Not explicitly anyway.

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Thats a comment @countingbeans used to give out the gold bars for.

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I do not with to insult him or anyone on this board ever. With that said, I think the notion that considering you’re free to speak without punishment from the government directly, living in a society with institutions that can shut you out of that society, makes up a game of semantics, and shouldn’t be taken seriously!

And to think that there aren’t powerful people who are not chomping at the bit to get certain speech punishable, the way it is in various European countries, is extremely foolish!

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This is exactly the point I was trying to make, only you did a better job at explaining it; thank you.

If the government wasn’t in bed with big business, I would be more willing to argue that free speech still exists - but the last 40+ years of neoliberalism has made that impossible.

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