The alt-right is a bunch of racists thing is also a huge exaggeration to slander the whole party. You’re giving it way more weight than it actually deserves.
It’s not like the rise of the Nazi party in early 1900’s Germany. It’s more like a very small fringe groups that has historically been far left.
Like the last dregs of the Klan that switched parties.
It does appear that the silent majority was real indeed.
While i worry that trump’s campaign had in a sense legitimized bigotry, as a mixed race person i dont necessarily find half the country inherently racist; at least in a malevolent sense (i experience a lot of casual racism, but to be totally honest i think it’s funny as hell). Rather, there is a massive portion of the us electorate whose grievances clearly haven’t been heard for a long time, and have been unfortunately tied to bigoted ideals. I sincerely hope people can find civility again once this while nonsense blows over.
Trump winning popular vote by 1.1%
Even the Nazis were only a plurality iirc.
Still, look what happened.
And I don’t particularly believe that the average German citizen back in the 1930s were virulent anti-semites.
PA just went to Trump!
That would mean he wins
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You sell yourself far too short sir. You’re extremely sharp and well-informed.
That’s easy–just show her a picture of Arches National Park. Utah’s scenery is amazing
I think those fringe groups are far smaller than you realize and given the establishment republican reaction to Trump (think GW Bush who was demonized by the democrats) they aren’t exactly popular. What you are watching is working class whites who are struggling from wage stagnation finally getting fed up with being cast in the role of bad guy. Again, we have an inmpeachment process and given the small margin of victory whoever wins needs to remember that.
Its definitely silent this time more so than ever. I’ve gotten job interviews because of people who would unfriend me if I posted something pro trump on social media. Voted for Johnson btw but still don’t post about it.
Indeed. The polarization rose to such dramatic levels this time around it seemed to muzzle all but the most hardened supporters. I went Johnson too… real close to writing-in Cthulhu though.
I’m one of the folks who argued (elsewhere, more liberal places than here) that Trump had a point and that there is definitely a group of people who were left out for quite some time, and that simply calling them racists/w.e. is counterproductive.
What Republican establishment reaction to Trump? Ultimately supporting him and proving that they’re just politicians and people who (in my eyes at least) have no moral and ethical standards?
I’m not willing to buy into the argument that the white nationalists are smaller than I believe, or that Trump will not attempt to use them further. At least, not yet. I know little to nothing about that group, and so don’t think I can comment on them.
I believe my liberal friends who are freaking out on Facebook about how this is the ascendancy of racism and bigotry in the U.S. are overstating it dramatically. I agree with the general assessment that this is more about dissatisfaction with the government in general and basically the conservative version of Obama’s CHANGE!@#!@#!@#! at work.
However, I also refuse to turn a blind eye to the fact that all these people basically found Trump’s words and actions permissible enough to vote for him. Perhaps things will change now that Clinton is out of the way (letting the actual conservatives like Ryan and McCain breathe easy), and Trump has been elected (letting those who just hate on the current government to breathe easy), and Trump’s apparent support towards the white nationalists and generally racist comments will face more scrutiny.
But I don’t know, and I feel that’s the entire point. We don’t know, and so we worry.
Podesta headed to Clinton HQ and Hillary won’t be accompanying him. It looks like he will be speaking shortly.
I really feel very strongly that it is media. I do however recognize that there are in fact some serious dumpster fire kinds of people out there that still exist.
What I currently think–and I can’t prove it of course–is that SOME of this comes from people who are often under-educated trying to express frustrations that comes out very much non-PC. That doesn’t make them racist, but it makes them very frustrating to deal with. Note very carefully that I’m not saying racism doesn’t exist or is a problem, or even is a small problem. It’s a real problem and it has been thrown into the media even more in the last few months and/or year. But there really is a problem in communication of pain and frustration that that stupid Young Turks anchor illustrates nicely: people who don’t have all the eloquent words (she refers to women voting for trump) often have a difficult time expressing things.
Never heard it expressed this way, but wow, excellent analysis.
I am calling both of them for Trump actually. Pennsylvania for sure goes red for the first time in a loooong time.
Posted much better than I. There are several different portions who have been demonized and/or ignored on different sides.
Does anyone else feel like that scene in the first Matrix movie, where Neo learns that life is nothing more than a computer simulation ? I kinda don’t even know what to think or believe anymore.
It seems that Hillary is not going to concede anything yet.
Anyone think Clinton even had a concession speech prepared?
ROFL.
The live stream from Clinton HQ is fucking hilarious right now.
Looks like Clinton is not conceding anything at all.