[quote]ZEB wrote:
That is exactly what the mainstream liberal media would be saying if they were not so biased.
Seriously, this guys is the worst modern day President and anyone who thinks otherwise does not have a firm grasp of political history.[/quote]
Says the guy who didn’t get the joke.
Surely the chimp is the worst modern day President. You want us to forget the chimp.
You NEED us to forget the chimp.
I’m here to remind them about the chimp.
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[quote]pat wrote:
Yeah, you don’t need to make things up about obama to make him look bad. There is plenty of fodder of his own making where you can be completely factual and he still looks like a buffoon.[/quote]
[quote]MaximusB wrote:
58% of Senate Democrats voted for the war, including Harry Reid, Dianne Feinstein, Hillary Clinton, Chuck Shumer, Joe Biden, and John Kerry.
Are they chimps too ?[/quote]
No, they were the victim of cherry picked intelligence.[/quote]
Oh, so they are just colossally stupid. I am fine with that description.
They’re victims! lololololololol! [/quote]
It looks like your still a victim of the chimps lies.
Please tell us how they found the wmds.
[quote]MaximusB wrote:
58% of Senate Democrats voted for the war, including Harry Reid, Dianne Feinstein, Hillary Clinton, Chuck Shumer, Joe Biden, and John Kerry.
Are they chimps too ?[/quote]
No, they were the victim of cherry picked intelligence.[/quote]
LOL, they were victims of the evil George Bush. You loon, Bush had the same intelligence that those who voted for the war had. So…did he know that the intelligence was bad and he invaded Iraq anyway? Tell us all why he did this. What did he have to gain my making things up and invading a country.
Honestly, you are not even logical.
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That’s a lie. Bush cherry picked the intelligence until he had a reason for war.
[quote]pat wrote:
Yeah, you don’t need to make things up about obama to make him look bad. There is plenty of fodder of his own making where you can be completely factual and he still looks like a buffoon.[/quote]
Why is it then that they make things up?[/quote]
Beats me, he reality is way worse than people’s imagination.
[quote]MaximusB wrote:
58% of Senate Democrats voted for the war, including Harry Reid, Dianne Feinstein, Hillary Clinton, Chuck Shumer, Joe Biden, and John Kerry.
Are they chimps too ?[/quote]
No, they were the victim of cherry picked intelligence.[/quote]
LOL, they were victims of the evil George Bush. You loon, Bush had the same intelligence that those who voted for the war had. So…did he know that the intelligence was bad and he invaded Iraq anyway? Tell us all why he did this. What did he have to gain my making things up and invading a country.
Honestly, you are not even logical.
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That’s a lie. Bush cherry picked the intelligence until he had a reason for war.[/quote]
Where is your evidence that the intelligence was cherry picked. That’s a mighty big accusation, it should be qualified by evidence.
That’s just a quick Google search of news reports as information came out, because my time is precious. I’ve gone through and excerpted the actual documents many times here in PWI. This is reading you should have already done.
[quote]MaximusB wrote:
58% of Senate Democrats voted for the war, including Harry Reid, Dianne Feinstein, Hillary Clinton, Chuck Shumer, Joe Biden, and John Kerry.
Are they chimps too ?[/quote]
No, they were the victim of cherry picked intelligence.[/quote]
LOL, they were victims of the evil George Bush. You loon, Bush had the same intelligence that those who voted for the war had. So…did he know that the intelligence was bad and he invaded Iraq anyway? Tell us all why he did this. What did he have to gain my making things up and invading a country.
Honestly, you are not even logical.
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That’s a lie. Bush cherry picked the intelligence until he had a reason for war.[/quote]
Where is your evidence that the intelligence was cherry picked. That’s a mighty big accusation, it should be qualified by evidence.[/quote]
Don’t hold you breath, Pat.
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I am not. It’s one thing to accuse of faulty intelligence, poor intelligence gathering methods, reliance on the unreliable, or the misreading of the data was wrong.
It’s a whole other to say that all the intelligence was gathered correctly, and that it was all accurate, but that some of it was used or even altered, to the exclusion of reliable and accurate counter intelligence in order to deliberately make a case that wasn’t there based on the evidence.
It did not help that Saddam was interested in disinformation to scare the Iranians, whom he considered the bigger threat than the U.S. So he wanted to look stronger than he was. It was a catastrophic miscalculation on his part.
So was our intelligence bad? It seems obvious now. Cherry picked is something different.
[quote]MaximusB wrote:
58% of Senate Democrats voted for the war, including Harry Reid, Dianne Feinstein, Hillary Clinton, Chuck Shumer, Joe Biden, and John Kerry.
Are they chimps too ?[/quote]
No, they were the victim of cherry picked intelligence.[/quote]
LOL, they were victims of the evil George Bush. You loon, Bush had the same intelligence that those who voted for the war had. So…did he know that the intelligence was bad and he invaded Iraq anyway? Tell us all why he did this. What did he have to gain my making things up and invading a country.
Honestly, you are not even logical.
[/quote]
That’s a lie. Bush cherry picked the intelligence until he had a reason for war.[/quote]
Where is your evidence that the intelligence was cherry picked. That’s a mighty big accusation, it should be qualified by evidence.[/quote]
Don’t hold you breath, Pat.
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I am not. It’s one thing to accuse of faulty intelligence, poor intelligence gathering methods, reliance on the unreliable, or the misreading of the data was wrong.
It’s a whole other to say that all the intelligence was gathered correctly, and that it was all accurate, but that some of it was used or even altered, to the exclusion of reliable and accurate counter intelligence in order to deliberately make a case that wasn’t there based on the evidence.
It did not help that Saddam was interested in disinformation to scare the Iranians, whom he considered the bigger threat than the U.S. So he wanted to look stronger than he was. It was a catastrophic miscalculation on his part.
So was our intelligence bad? It seems obvious now. Cherry picked is something different. [/quote]
Ooh, ooh, all of a sudden the gullible sheep need proof.
You didn’t need much proof for invading Iraq.
[quote]MaximusB wrote:
58% of Senate Democrats voted for the war, including Harry Reid, Dianne Feinstein, Hillary Clinton, Chuck Shumer, Joe Biden, and John Kerry.
Are they chimps too ?[/quote]
No, they were the victim of cherry picked intelligence.[/quote]
LOL, they were victims of the evil George Bush. You loon, Bush had the same intelligence that those who voted for the war had. So…did he know that the intelligence was bad and he invaded Iraq anyway? Tell us all why he did this. What did he have to gain my making things up and invading a country.
Honestly, you are not even logical.
[/quote]
That’s a lie. Bush cherry picked the intelligence until he had a reason for war.[/quote]
Where is your evidence that the intelligence was cherry picked. That’s a mighty big accusation, it should be qualified by evidence.[/quote]
Don’t hold you breath, Pat.
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I am not. It’s one thing to accuse of faulty intelligence, poor intelligence gathering methods, reliance on the unreliable, or the misreading of the data was wrong.
It’s a whole other to say that all the intelligence was gathered correctly, and that it was all accurate, but that some of it was used or even altered, to the exclusion of reliable and accurate counter intelligence in order to deliberately make a case that wasn’t there based on the evidence.
It did not help that Saddam was interested in disinformation to scare the Iranians, whom he considered the bigger threat than the U.S. So he wanted to look stronger than he was. It was a catastrophic miscalculation on his part.
So was our intelligence bad? It seems obvious now. Cherry picked is something different. [/quote]
Ooh, ooh, all of a sudden the gullible sheep need proof.
You didn’t need much proof for invading Iraq.[/quote]
Neither did 58% of senate Democrats who had the same proof.
At this point it would be best to just admit you’re a fluffer for the Democratic Party rather than try to discuss this with an unbiased mind.
If it was the work of a peon internet generation individual I may give it a slight grin for creativity. When it’s the work of full grown political, ruling class adults with serious responsibilities I don’t think it’s funny at all.
If it was the work of a peon internet generation individual I may give it a slight grin for creativity. When it’s the work of full grown political, ruling class adults with serious responsibilities I don’t think it’s funny at all. [/quote]
I don’t know anything about Israeli politics. I thought it was a politician’s wife not a politician?
