[quote]conner wrote:
Though Eruption does sound impressive, I would have to agree with tremelo24 that it can be learned by most guitarists. If you wanna hear some REAL crazy guitar works check out people like Vai, Malmsteen, Buckethead, or even Rusty Cooley (for his sheer playing speed).
Or, search for “AirTap!” on youtube and see if that does it for ya.[/quote]
Tool also has some extremely difficult guitar chords.
PS AirTap! is very nice…
Saw VH with my kids in 2004 in Oklahoma City. They thought it was the coolest thing they’d ever seen since they’d grown up listening to VH. Eddie started off the concert with a medley like this. The lights went out, then the guitar started wailing while it was pitch black in the auditorium. The crowd went nuts. Then the spotlight turned on Eddie who was shirtless and wearing camouflage BDU pants. The guy was ripped to shit! The words “Bruce Lee with a guitar” kept coming to mind. Later on, Toby Keith walked onstage and sang “I Love This Bar” with Sammy. Once again, the crowd was crazy! This was a sold out show at the Ford Center with ages ranging from about 15 to about 60. Anyone know what’s going on with VH these days? I heard Eddie, Alex and Wolfgang (Eddie’s son) were going on tour. I also heard that Michael Anthony was going on tour with Sammy Hagar. Anybody?
My new favorite:
Vai, Satriani and John Petrucci from Dream Theater take turns ripping Smoke on the water to shreds. Classic.
This was the best ten minutes of my day.
[quote]TornadoTommy wrote:
Saw VH with my kids in 2004 in Oklahoma City. They thought it was the coolest thing they’d ever seen since they’d grown up listening to VH. Eddie started off the concert with a medley like this. The lights went out, then the guitar started wailing while it was pitch black in the auditorium. The crowd went nuts. Then the spotlight turned on Eddie who was shirtless and wearing camouflage BDU pants. The guy was ripped to shit! The words “Bruce Lee with a guitar” kept coming to mind. Later on, Toby Keith walked onstage and sang “I Love This Bar” with Sammy. Once again, the crowd was crazy! This was a sold out show at the Ford Center with ages ranging from about 15 to about 60. Anyone know what’s going on with VH these days? I heard Eddie, Alex and Wolfgang (Eddie’s son) were going on tour. I also heard that Michael Anthony was going on tour with Sammy Hagar. Anybody?
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I read in a recent article that VH is teaming back up with diamond dave, but without michael anthony.
[quote]tremelo24 wrote:
He is exceptional no doubt, but that is the simple version of what he used to do in the 80’s.
On a side note, if you have been playing guitar for longer than 5 years and cannot play Eruption, you need to quit.
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If you can’t play eruption after 1 year , you need to quit.lol. My friend who never played in his life, pikced up the guitar , and i showed him 3 notes , and he tapped it.
[quote]playmaker08 wrote:
TornadoTommy wrote:
Saw VH with my kids in 2004 in Oklahoma City. They thought it was the coolest thing they’d ever seen since they’d grown up listening to VH. Eddie started off the concert with a medley like this. The lights went out, then the guitar started wailing while it was pitch black in the auditorium. The crowd went nuts. Then the spotlight turned on Eddie who was shirtless and wearing camouflage BDU pants. The guy was ripped to shit! The words “Bruce Lee with a guitar” kept coming to mind. Later on, Toby Keith walked onstage and sang “I Love This Bar” with Sammy. Once again, the crowd was crazy! This was a sold out show at the Ford Center with ages ranging from about 15 to about 60. Anyone know what’s going on with VH these days? I heard Eddie, Alex and Wolfgang (Eddie’s son) were going on tour. I also heard that Michael Anthony was going on tour with Sammy Hagar. Anybody?
I read in a recent article that VH is teaming back up with diamond dave, but without michael anthony.
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Yeah, Wolfgang (Eddie’s son) is playing bass.
I don’t see that lasting too long. The rest of the band can’t seem to get along with Dave for long periods of time.
I went to one of there last concerts a couple of years ago. Sammy and Micheal were with them. It makes me sad when there not getting along. You know it wont last long with Dave. I have tons of respect for eddie and alex, but you have to start wondering if its them, that are hard to get along with.
It would be cool if they could do one half of a concert with Dave and his songs, and another half with Sammy. Yea I know it wont happen, and if it did, they would probably kill each other shortly into the tour.
What’s being missed here with Edward…with the “…anyone can do this…” and “…what about this kid…” and “…I’m not impressed…” comments…
What’s being missed is historical perspective.
I remember playing for a kid Theolonius Monk…THE father of the way Jazz keyboards are played even today. Until you realize that NO ONE was playing the chords and progressions that Monk was playing, he simply sounds like someone playing bad “Charlie Brown” movie music. That’s the problem with being an innovator; you set the standard and are copied, imitated, and yes, improved upon so much, that your contribution gets lost.
Same with Edward. Yea…there is a 15 year old who can do what he does (even though we can debate that)…but how many people were laying down these licks; dropping Bombs; throwing around harmonics like a toy; and completely re-defining Rock Guitaring IN 1980?
Very few, if any. THAT’s why Edward is an innovator and deserves a place in Rock history.
“JUMP”!, baby…!
Mufasa
[quote]zooropa1150 wrote:
tremelo24 wrote:
He is exceptional no doubt, but that is the simple version of what he used to do in the 80’s.
On a side note, if you have been playing guitar for longer than 5 years and cannot play Eruption, you need to quit.
If you can’t play eruption after 1 year , you need to quit.lol. My friend who never played in his life, pikced up the guitar , and i showed him 3 notes , and he tapped it.[/quote]
LOL why aren’t you guys in your own band then? Talk to me when Dimebag is buried with your friends’ guitar.
[quote]Mufasa wrote:
What’s being missed here with Edward…with the “…anyone can do this…” and “…what about this kid…” and “…I’m not impressed…” comments…
What’s being missed is historical perspective.
I remember playing for a kid Theolonius Monk…THE father of the way Jazz keyboards are played even today. Until you realize that NO ONE was playing the chords and progressions that Monk was playing, he simply sounds like someone playing bad “Charlie Brown” movie music. That’s the problem with being an innovator; you set the standard and are copied, imitated, and yes, improved upon so much, that your contribution gets lost.
Same with Edward. Yea…there is a 15 year old who can do what he does (even though we can debate that)…but how many people were laying down these licks; dropping Bombs; throwing around harmonics like a toy; and completely re-defining Rock Guitaring IN 1980?
Very few, if any. THAT’s why Edward is an innovator and deserves a place in Rock history.
“JUMP”!, baby…!
Mufasa[/quote]
None. I’m guessing its easy to learn since its been done to death but the thought, execution and creation of it is where its at. And the fact that he was stoned the begeezus at the time too!
[quote]trailrash wrote:
PGA wrote:
And Hendrix wreckin’ shit!
speaking of Hendrix. I found this clip of Unknown Hinson making it look easy to play Hendrix. Im actually go to see this guy on Saturday. This dude can play…!
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unknown hinson ! trailrash you crazy motherfucker @!
[quote]conner wrote:
Though Eruption does sound impressive, I would have to agree with tremelo24 that it can be learned by most guitarists. If you wanna hear some REAL crazy guitar works check out people like Vai, Malmsteen, Buckethead, or even Rusty Cooley (for his sheer playing speed).
Or, search for “AirTap!” on youtube and see if that does it for ya.[/quote]
Yea - but those guys wouldn’t exist if it weren’t for Eddie - he truly is the father of modern rock guitar.
No one played or sounded like that pre-1978. Eddie was the first to use a variac to crank up his pre-amp output and get that saturated, endlessly sustaining distortion and was the first to put a humbucker in a strat - not to mention his innovation with the tremolo bar.
His lead style, the hammer-ons and legato phrasing, his incredible speed and note choices.
Eddie is the greatest - I love Vai, Malmsteen, Gilbert, Lynch, MacAlpine and all of those guys, but Eddie did it first.
Also, being able to play Eruption is not a big deal 28 years after it came out. But mimicry is one thing - innovation is quite another.
[quote]PGA wrote:
Mufasa wrote:
What’s being missed here with Edward…with the “…anyone can do this…” and “…what about this kid…” and “…I’m not impressed…” comments…
What’s being missed is historical perspective.
I remember playing for a kid Theolonius Monk…THE father of the way Jazz keyboards are played even today. Until you realize that NO ONE was playing the chords and progressions that Monk was playing, he simply sounds like someone playing bad “Charlie Brown” movie music. That’s the problem with being an innovator; you set the standard and are copied, imitated, and yes, improved upon so much, that your contribution gets lost.
Same with Edward. Yea…there is a 15 year old who can do what he does (even though we can debate that)…but how many people were laying down these licks; dropping Bombs; throwing around harmonics like a toy; and completely re-defining Rock Guitaring IN 1980?
Very few, if any. THAT’s why Edward is an innovator and deserves a place in Rock history.
“JUMP”!, baby…!
Mufasa
None. I’m guessing its easy to learn since its been done to death but the thought, execution and creation of it is where its at. And the fact that he was stoned the begeezus at the time too![/quote]
The stoned part may have helped his creativity. I believe I have read where Hendrix would have a blot or two of acid under his headband during many of his live shows.
D
[quote]swivel wrote:
trailrash wrote:
PGA wrote:
And Hendrix wreckin’ shit!
speaking of Hendrix. I found this clip of Unknown Hinson making it look easy to play Hendrix. Im actually go to see this guy on Saturday. This dude can play…!
unknown hinson ! trailrash you crazy motherfucker @![/quote]
Hell yeah. I’ll send you some pics from the show Saturday. I’m still waiting on the Cecil Brown clip, fucker. On a side note did you see that The Discovery Channel team picked up Basso
It’s not a guitar solo but a bass solo I think is badass.
[quote]Mufasa wrote:
Same with Edward. Yea…there is a 15 year old who can do what he does (even though we can debate that)…but how many people were laying down these licks; dropping Bombs; throwing around harmonics like a toy; and completely re-defining Rock Guitaring IN 1980?
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I’m gonna ruffle some feathers, but from a technical standpoint Hendrix is maybe the most overrated player in history. However, from the standpoint of innovation he was the most untouchable monster who ever lived and still is.
Many better players have gone before and since, including Van Halen, but Hendrix did a whole lotta “stuff” absolutely first. He reinvented the foundations on which practically all future players would build.
Eddie Van Halen was the next definable step in that evolutionary chain, particularly the first 2 albums. I had to see him live to figure out how he was doing that barrage of harmonics toward the end of somebody get me a doctor. Then of course you smack yourself in the forehead and go “OMG, of course, I would’ve never thought of that” (hammers and pulls while muting the strings with the pick hand)
Just like Hendrix there have been and are better players, but Eddie does indeed deserve his due for innovation.
[quote]SkyNett wrote:
Yea - but those guys wouldn’t exist if it weren’t for Eddie - he truly is the father of modern rock guitar.
No one played or sounded like that pre-1978. Eddie was the first to use a variac to crank up his pre-amp output and get that saturated, endlessly sustaining distortion and was the first to put a humbucker in a strat - not to mention his innovation with the tremolo bar.
His lead style, the hammer-ons and legato phrasing, his incredible speed and note choices.
Eddie is the greatest - I love Vai, Malmsteen, Gilbert, Lynch, MacAlpine and all of those guys, but Eddie did it first.
Also, being able to play Eruption is not a big deal 28 years after it came out. But mimicry is one thing - innovation is quite another.[/quote]
I haven’t been into it like I once was for a long time, but I concur with everything you just said. A friend of mine had connections with the old WABX radio station in Detroit back in the day and got his hands on Van Halen’s first album as a bunch of tracks before it was released.
He called me on the phone and told me “you gotta hear this guitar player man, I don’t even know how to say it over the phone you just gotta come over here.”
Not just Eruption, I’m The One and ATOMIC PUNK… HOLY SHIT!!! I was breathin hard n sweatin just sitting there with my hair standin on end. A whole host of techniques unheard of before that album. And yes that fat, creamy/crunchy OVER overdriven tone. Definitely took us to the next level.
Agree with you, T…
There are Live tracks out there where Hendrixx re-enacts Vietnam battle scenes, interspersed with “The Star Spangled Banner” and “America the Beautiful”…ON THE GUITAR! He literally makes sounds of helicopters; bombs dropping; screams and cries…machine guns (as a matter of fact, if I’m not mistaken, the Live track is called “Machine Gun”; I’ll look it up in my archives).
NO ONE was doing this stuff.
Mufasa