Economic Education: Get Some!

And you want to keep this shit? We can do better.

You think the reason why his country experiences hardships are due to his policies?

And you?
Canada’s crackdown on peaceful protest by the government was prodded by who? You think the government is not ultimately controlled by those who donate money to them?

Just like the U.S. whose government is controlled by the donors. So your problem is with all of those “free-market” corporations.

I have worked on multiple aircraft types that help rid the world of terrorists and protect US soldiers. F-18s I have been an engineer on I got to see on video dropping bombs on terrorist hidey-holes months later.

Surely we can all agree terrorists are bad? But of course I bet you believe the US military are the terrorists.

Still don’t see how you are anti-capitalist of your sole source of income is day trading and currency speculation…

Also, you still didn’t answer the question as to what you believe is best.

Some easy research on Google scholar proves they were a major contributor.

Yes. How many innocent people have died as a result of the aircraft you’ve worked on? 'How many countries have the U.S. invaded in the last couple of decades? How many countries are the U.S. or it’s proxies waging war in?

Yes, so the U.S. is bad. Actually quite terrible.

How do you know this is my sole source of income? What ethical consumption is left in this country?

A system where the public is in control, not the corporations or billionaire class. Which is what we have now, an oligarchy not democracy. Look at what happens when there are direct ballot initiatives. Kansas struck down the anti-abortion rules. Florida passed a $15/hr. minimum wage. It doesn’t reach maturity until 2026 I believe. But, the point is the will of the people are done, not the billionaires or corporations. This is a much better way to go, except for the billionaires and corporations. And this is more than fine with me.

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How many innocent people died in the terrorist attacks whose anniversary is tomorrow? How many innocent people has Hamas killed? Or did you conveniently not watch the videos of terrorists beheading journalists?

I am sure you believe the conspiracy that it was an inside job though. You are teetering on the edge of one those nut jobs who protests soldiers funerals.

You don’t seem to understand it isn’t the soldier’s job to make the decisions. I have no control over that. However I can and do produce the safest possible products to protect the men and women who are following those orders regardless of whether or not they make sense to me. I have spoken to veterans (who I have much more respect for than you) who have stated if it wasn’t for some of the birds I worked on they wouldn’t be alive (they were in Afghanistan in 2002 trying to find the bastard responsible for murdering over 3000 people not to mention the countless people who got cancer or other issues from the debris and dust fallout from the tower collapse. some were in the first Gulf war) and that’s plenty for me.
Please name one of these Proxy wars. Or explain how US pulling out of Afghanistan and letting terrorist groups take back over furthers your ideal of rule by the people?

You accuse everyone else of buying into propaganda or brainwashing but you have only swallowed a different hook.

You claim that value is created on resources and goods. What goods have you produced that contributed to GDP?

This has never happened in the history of humankind.

We never had a democracy. It’s a democratic republic.

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Hahahahaha

This might be the dumbest thing you have ever said and you’ve said some really dumb shit.

So, what is your main source of income if not currency speculation / day trading? Disability?

What do you give back? How much do you donate a year?

My guess is your online diatribes is about the only thing you really have to offer as you’ve been asked over and over and just deflect.

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The clown never answers the questions

@castoli contributes comic relief. I smile every time he begins a thread or posts a rebuttal. I especially like it when he calls his distractors idiots.

Regrettably, it seems that Castoli and @Igooo have yet to hook up. Can’t you just image those two raising their children?

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Also he rails on the military but praises unions. I don’t think he realizes how many union jobs the DoD budget funds…

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Yeah I think you’re right. The public being in control is stupid. Let’s leave it up to the CEO’s and captains of industry. They have the population interest at heart.

If the DoD hires union workers does that negate all the innocent people killed by the military?

You asserted the public was in control. I see you need this broken down for you as you’ve missed the point entirely.

The public never has and never will be in control. The mass public are sheep and on average extremely uneducated in most things.

Nobody here has said the public having more say or control is bad - it is a fantasy and doesn’t happen.

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I was asked how I think the country ought to be run. What system would be better than what we have? So I answered.

I realize starting a different system would be very difficult but so is traveling to the moon. Didn’t stop us. What significant change in this country(e.g. women voting, freeing slaves)has ever been easy? Should we have said fuck it and not even try?

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Militaries are going to continue to do what they have always done.

Relative to historical wars I would say things are much more tame the world over today.

Since we cannot have your idealistic utopia (because it has never existed in thousands of years) something has to give somewhere.

You proposed rule by the people. The counterpoint made was the rule by the people as a whole is a farce supported by historical fact.

The cream will rise to the top (good leaders) with the occasional turd (shit leaders) floating up. The best to hope for is to get rid of the turd before it spoils the whole damn thing.

I will agree with you that there are currently quite a few turds.

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So @castoli , can you summarize the main points that you’ve taught us so far?

Theres something to ponder.

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Thank goodness I know you are being facetious here.

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And what does history say about Capitalism. Or maybe it’s too soon to tell. So let’s look at what it is currently doing. The wealth gap is larger than before. The middle class is disappearing the “healthcare” system is in absolute shambles. A “healthcare” system primarily concerned with profits, not health. And these are the things I can think of right off the cuff.

I am not a teacher. It is up to you to challenge your own beliefs.

Federal taxes DO NOT fund Fed. spending. A sovereign nation with a sovereign currency is NOT constrained by money but by resources.

The ownership class is failing and the decisions would be better left to the populace. A more democratic rule as opposed to oligarchy.

These are the main points.

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