Why, they are illegal here to treat chronic disease. Can’t be patent and consequently controlled by pharma so pharma has their paid-for lackeys in the FDA keep them illegal. Like other treatments that are more efficacious with fewer side effects, like FMT. You can have that over in England but not here as the healthcare system is mainly designed for profits not health. Plain and simple.
Stories about angels and personal revelation and a loving god sell. Historically speaking.
On the other hand- “lights out. You’re over.” Isnt going to make the NYT best sellers list any time soon.
1 Like
Do you think money has something to do with those decisions?
And I see that cancer is the number 2 killer. Strange after Nixon declared a war on that disease 50 years ago. And it STILL has kept it’s number 2 spot after all of that “research” and money. How could this be so in the worlds greatest “healthcare” system?
Obamacare(ACA) was/is a right-wing healthcare plan born out of The Heritage Foundation.
Doesn’t really answer the question now does it? Or are you implying that all of those people are lying?
There was no question in that exchange.
1 Like
Sure, but it doesn’t cost money not to eat in excess either. The people that will blame their over-fat asses on poverty also probably spend money on stuff that isn’t needed… as in, i bet they’ve got a decent sized flat-screen TV and a phone less than 2 years old. It doesn’t cost much to eat reasonably healthy, these people just don’t want to spend the money on their own health until they’re dying in the hospital. Suddenly they’re begging for someone else to pay for their actions, quite literally in this case.
In the above scenario, they stress the hospital system and end up accruing debt they can never pay- shifting/offsetting healthcare costs for the people who actually do pay for their services… meaning the cost of healthcare goes up by default of guaranteed medical care (even if subpar), sanctioned by the government. Again, my wife got seen by some of the best medical practitioners in the country and we hadn’t paid anything up front; this is why i have a hard time agreeing/believing “lack of healthcare” is a viable cause of death.
Cancer is a strawman argument, but if you really want to go down that road… has the UK or Switzerland found the cure to cancer with their healthcare systems? They are both top of the list you provided, after all. I understand if you choose not to keep pursuing this particular man of straw.
That’s not what they claim, but honestly i wouldn’t give a damn if it was born from the desk of Ron Desantis (my ideal presidential candidate) - it’s shit legislation that only hurts the ever-evaporating middle class. If it were any good - why would we still have subpar healthcare outcomes 12 years after it’s passing?
(This is the part you can choose to agree with me in that personal decisions affect health outcomes to a significant degree… perhaps even significantly moreso than ‘lack of healthcare’).
2 Likes
You know exactly what I’m talking about.
There ya go.
1 Like
Sure people always have the choice to starve themselves, bwhahahahaha!
You sound like Saint Reagan and his welfare queen myth.
So it’s difficult for you to believe that tens of thousands of people die every due to lack of healthcare? Where are your studies that help prove your assertion?
There are no very good treatments to cancer because it is more profitable for these often deadly treatments. Pharma’s tentacles reach very far.
Who claims what?
We agree on this.
Yes, I agree personal decisions can make a big difference but not as much as having NO healthcare.
Did the other countries with the fabulous health care that you claim they have find a cure for cancer?..what a clown you are
1 Like
Better in which ways? Better is a relative term needing some perspective to know in what ways said thing is better than the what it is being compared to.
You just keep saying “better” as if it means something as is. It doesn’t. Explain the advantages and disadvantages of your “single payer” system in comparison with the current system and for extra credit (which I know you’ll pass on) explain other alternatives than your heralded “single payer”…
I wait with bated breath
1 Like
thank you
1 Like
How much medical innovation is coming out of the UK? New procedures? Methods? Etc?
I bet you don’t want to go down that rabbit hole.
Single payer systems (like with their military) welfare off of our advancement in medical tech.
Also, what is their tax level? Of course losers that make nothing don’t care about this.
1 Like
Welp, I think it’s time I unplug from PWI. I can’t deal with this - it’s arguing for the sake of arguing and no standards of debate are being respected.
Punchinig out
3 Likes
That could be the PWI slogan.
2 Likes
No, jerkoff. I don’t need any stories from you.
And you know because…?
And what is their medical system ranking?
And if there was no medical innovation coming out of the U.K. and they used what is coming out of the U.S. At least they it’s allowed. Instead of trying to keep it illegal for more pharma profits.
And how many of these are started by public money?
In your mind.
