[quote]CoachShredder wrote:
Or he’s eating the wrong shit. Horrible day goes like this:
Wake up - No breakfast, (insulin and cortisol through the roof)
Still no meals til lunch - hypoglycemic state, more fat gain specifically around the waist from cortisol levels. Body storing fat because friend hasn’t fed himself yet after a 10-12hr fast through the night
Lunch - Hamburger, Sandwich, whatever - insulin through the roof again. Bread is a fancy word for glucosex2 or 3.
Huge Dinner - Gastro Intestinal distress, probably falls asleep as his body uses all it’s energy to break down this massive meal. It’s probably a shitty one too - full of high GI foods like pasta, bread, etc
Even though your friend isn’t eating a lot he’s likely dealing with chronic inflammation from eating shitty foods and enjoying fluctuating insulin all day - the ups and downs equal fat storage. This is not only making him fat but will eventually lead to type 2 diabetes if he doesn’t fix his ways. Direct him to Paleo eating, and get him to stop being a lazy fuck![/quote]
sorry mate your post is mostly junk.
OP you friend probably just eats like crap and doesnt exercise, or has no intensity at all if he does exercise.
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Care to elaborate on why it’s junk? [/quote]
You’ve basically just spouted a bunch of diet dogma that has no scientific grounding.
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I’m glad there is someone on here to say these things. So much pseudo-science floating around, I find particularly surrounding glucose/insulin.
[quote]lock_solid wrote:
I love how everyone on here that shares an opposing opinion declares the others broscience or pseudo science automatically… [/quote]
I do agree. I think we all need to be careful that by adopting a set of dietary beliefs we dont close ourselves to the opinions/differences of others. Someone just mentioned that what I posted doesnt work for him. Thats fine, and if something doesnt work the last thing you should do is keep driving yourself into the ground trying to make it work. Which is exactly what I did for years trying to do everything “perfect” (eating breakfast, meals every 2-3 hours etc) and only causing far more grief and stress than it was worth. If only I had paid more attention to my instincts. Thus I feel its important that when someone comes along saying that you HAVE to do certain things to ensure success that someone gives them a Second opinion.
You’ve basically just spouted a bunch of diet dogma that has no scientific grounding.
Eating or not eating breakfast doesnt do anything for metabolism. Skipping breakfast can actually work as a great fatloss and body comp tool.
The body is a great regulator of glucose and wont go hypoglycemic just because you go a couple of extra hours without food (unless of course you have other health issues) and even if you had gone hypoglycemic how is the body going to store fat without a fuel source? At this point the body is tapping into one of the many forms of energy to fuel itself. Bodyfat is the largest and most available unless something blunts its usage such as insulin from feeding.
I agree bread is basically worthless as a source of nutrition but it can be an easy source of energy for someone who can tolerate it. same with other High GI foods such as Pasta, Rice etc.
And while insulin can be a hazard as far as fat storage is concerned the fluctuations you mention are natural. Eat a meal insulin rises and falls. What you want for fatloss is lower overall insulin which you WONT get if you are eating all day. Hence the idea to skip breakfast.
For more read up on Martin Berkhan’s Intermittent Fasting and John Keifer’s Carb Backloading.[/quote]
[quote]lock_solid wrote:
I love how everyone on here that shares an opposing opinion declares the others broscience or pseudo science automatically… [/quote]
Touche. Pseudoscience was not the right word to convey the intention I implied. A better way to say it would be that there were false statements made. False defined as going against concensus of the larger academic community, not as going any sort of anecdotal evidence. Most of the post was terrific and great advice, but there were some important tenants that aren’t generally accepted as true.
I’d like to offer my experience. I gained weight with less than 1600cals/day, counted meticulously, and using decent macros. I didn’t know it at the time but I was eating mostly stuff I had an intolerance to. Wheat in particular. My digestive system was a constant mess, and I didn’t know why. Maybe the OP’s friend is eating something his body doesn’t process well?
I have a friend who’s trying the coke theory: He’s keeping everything exactly the same, but cutting out coke (as in the cola). First week, no change. He’s giving it a month.